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Saturday, April 18, 2009

Buster Olney: New Yankee Stadium on steroids?

The New York Yankees might have a serious problem on their hands: Beautiful new Yankee Stadium appears to be a veritable wind tunnel that is rocketing balls over the fences.

This was in evidence again on Saturday, when the Indians posted six homers, including 14 runs in the second innings. Cleveland eventually won 22-4—and the Yankees and Indians have combined for 14 homers in the last two days.

“With the way the wind has been the last couple of days, right field is a joke,” one official said. “I would say at least three or four home runs in this series would be routine outs in nearly every park.”

There have been five games played in new Yankee Stadium, including two exhibitions against the Chicago Cubs, and so far there have been 25 homers—including 17 in the first three games in the Yankees’ first home series against the Indians.

That’s an average of almost five home runs per game and, at this pace, there would be about 400 homers hit in the park this year—or an increase of about 250 percent. In the last year of old Yankee Stadium, in 2008, there were a total of 160 homers.

The Yankees’ traditionally have fostered pitching in their home park. Old Yankee Stadium had a short porch in right field, designed originally to take advantage of Babe Ruth’s power, but the rest of the park played large. Through the years, this has allowed pitchers to thrive in Yankee Stadium, and been a nice lure for the team in pursuing free agents.

Don’t change it until we see what Josh Hamilton can do in a HR Derby in it.

Gamingboy Posted: April 18, 2009 at 09:08 PM | 23 comment(s)
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   1. Cuban X Senators  Posted: April 18, 2009 at 11:42 PM (#3144335)
After the first game at Pac Bell everyone was sure it was a bandbox because Kevin Elster hit 3 HRs.
   2. Lazzeri  Posted: April 18, 2009 at 11:42 PM (#3144336)
Something's up, because Mark Teixeira doesn't hit homers in April.

:)
   3. Russlan wants Pedro to be a Met again  Posted: April 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM (#3144339)
I really hope it isn't. We need less offense, not more.
   4. Vaux, A.B.D.  Posted: April 18, 2009 at 11:48 PM (#3144342)
In the Indians series, it's pretty much only been a bandbox for one of the teams.
   5. Repoz  Posted: April 18, 2009 at 11:49 PM (#3144343)
Hey Olney, contact Greg Rybarczyk at Hit Tracker...oooops, sorry that's a blog and they don't exist.

Just grab some ramdummy quotes and run with it.
   6. aleskel  Posted: April 18, 2009 at 11:50 PM (#3144344)
We're talking about five (5!) games here, people, all of them during the day. Small sample size, no?

I was at the game today, and yes, there did seem to be a jet stream. The new stadium is much more open-air (in the concourses) and there was a steady breeze blowing straight out, judging by the flags. I'm not going to be concerned about it until it gets really hot and humid over the summer. Is the ball still going to carry when it's muggy and airless? We'll find out.
   7. Campeones de la Serie Mundial('zop)  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 12:07 AM (#3144347)
Is the ball still going to carry when it's muggy and airless?

Identical balls will carry further in humid air than in dry air. Balls don't carry as far in the summer because the humidity reduces the elasticity of the ball.
   8. Cowboy Popup  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 12:10 AM (#3144349)
In the Indians series, it's pretty much only been a bandbox for one of the teams.

The Yanks hit 5 HRs on Friday.

I am hoping that this is just a fluke and that the stadium will play like the old one did over the course of the year. I don't want thee Yanks in a band box.
   9. Justin T  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 12:21 AM (#3144350)
Identical balls will carry further in humid air than in dry air. Balls don't carry as far in the summer because the humidity reduces the elasticity of the ball.

Is the ball still going to carry when it's muggy and airless?
   10. The District Attorney  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 12:27 AM (#3144351)
Is the ball still going to carry when it's muggy and airless?

Identical balls will carry further in air than in no air. Balls don't carry as far in airless conditions because the deadness of the players reduces the velocity they can impart to the ball.
   11. TerpNats  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 12:32 AM (#3144355)
Somebody buy the Yankees a humidor!
   12. Baldrick  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 02:27 AM (#3144384)
Identical balls will carry further in air than in no air. Balls don't carry as far in airless conditions because the deadness of the players reduces the velocity they can impart to the ball.

I see what you did there.
   13. jwb  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 03:01 PM (#3144824)
This was in evidence again on Saturday, when the Indians posted six homers, including 14 runs in the second innings.
Sentences like this are why we should only read the writings of trained professionals. I hope his toilet training was more successful.
   14. BFFB  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 03:09 PM (#3144842)
if it is a wind tunnel did no one think to do a cfd analysis before they built the yhing
   15. Nolan Giesbrecht  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 03:23 PM (#3144872)
I may be a tad bit tired...

Identical balls will carry further in air than in no air. Balls don't carry as far in airless conditions because the deadness of the players reduces the velocity they can impart to the ball.


I read this and continued onto the next post, never realizing that there may be something wrong.
   16. Campeones de la Serie Mundial('zop)  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 03:43 PM (#3144890)
Well, today's game with an E/NE wind (blowing in) was much different than the prior games. Unfortunately the prevailing wind in NYC is westerly...

(BTW, Yankee Stadium & Citifield are probably 2 of the 3 windiest parks in baseball. NYC is one of the windiest cities in the country according to climate records, and both stadia are by the water and surrounded by low buildings, parks, and parking lots. KC is probably the windiest based upon climate records. Candlestick used to be windier but the new park was designed to limit the wind; Wrigley certainly has its share of windy days but Chicago is not a particularly windy city once you get away from the immediate Lakefront. Fenway is surrounded by buildings and I've never observed it as a particularly windy place. (Although Boston is an even windier city than New York according to the Logan v. LGA climate records)
   17. Craig K  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 04:05 PM (#3144899)
Wrigley certainly has its share of windy days but Chicago is not a particularly windy city once you get away from the immediate Lakefront.


Then why the hell is it called "The Windy City"?
   18. Best Regards, Larry Mahnken  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 04:16 PM (#3144901)
Then why the hell is it called "The Windy City"?
Because of the hot air from the politicians.
   19. Campeones de la Serie Mundial('zop)  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 04:18 PM (#3144902)
Then why the hell is it called "The Windy City"?

For the same reason people think productive outs is the key to winning baseball: because people are idiots*.




*actually, the answer probably is that both of Chicago's airports are away from the lakefront, and that's the legendarily "windy" part of the city. But the Chicago ballparks aren't directly on the water either, unlike the NY stadia, which you can literally travel to by ferry.
   20. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 04:20 PM (#3144903)
Craig:

There are a lot of theories.

But the point made is somewhat accurate in that the lakefront area weather is distinctly different than several miles away. They always report two temperatures in Chicago, one for the folks near the lake and one for everyone else.
   21. Bob Dernier Cri  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 04:21 PM (#3144904)
why the hell is it called "The Windy City"?

As zop says, it's because the old part of the city is on the immediate lakefront. Where my grandmother used to live, on the West Side, I never remember any particular wind at all. Downtown, I have been stopped in my tracks at times by wind-tunnel effects amid tall buildings. Actually the same thing has happened to me in New York and in Dallas, but how many cities can you call The Windy City anyway?
   22. Bob Dernier Cri  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 04:23 PM (#3144905)
They always report two temperatures in Chicago

The famous "cooler near the lake," a phrase I heard on the radio every day of my life when I was a kid.
   23. Monty  Posted: April 19, 2009 at 04:24 PM (#3144906)
Actually the same thing has happened to me in New York and in Dallas, but how many cities can you call The Windy City anyway?


Casper, Wyoming had two or three 60+mph wind days when I lived there. I blame the Rockies (the mountains, not the team).
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