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Wednesday, December 02, 2009

Campione: Ignorant Need Not Apply: The Mind of the Manager Must Evolve

And crawling out of that Francesspoolian swill comes this gem from Cashman…

Mattingly seemingly aligned himself with Torre once he was added to his staff and made standing by Torre his priority. Cashman again did not name names, but made it clear there were people on his “field staff” who routinely ignored his directives and lied about their execution of the orders. On the topic of Derek Jeter’s declining defense, Cashman says, “There is no doubt that here was some problem with Derek’s range. It was obvious. You could see that he lost not one but two steps.” When Cashman approached Jeter the offseason after Joe Torre’s dismissal, Jeter said he wasn’t aware of the problem. (which is a column in itself. How can Jeter be counted on to know when to change positions or when to hang it up if he wasn’t aware his defense truly stunk?) Cashman said, “He wasn’t aware because nobody had told him. My staff told me they were confronting him on it. They weren’t. Clearly I was being lied to by my field staff.”

While I hesitate to indict Mattingly with such thin evidence (Larry Bowa is the sensible choice for the majority of the blame), everyone on Torre’s staff becomes accountable when management is lied to and orders go unfulfilled.

The Yankees are late entrants into the fray of improved scouting and varying tools of assessment. All managerial applicants will need to be aware of what it takes to manage a team in the 21st century, whether they are Don Mattingly or a minor league lifer with hopes of moving up to the big league office one day. Mattingly may very well be a fine manager one day, but his apparent ignorance of now basic statistical analysis and consistent strategic methodology may doom his first campaign even before he starts.

Repoz Posted: December 02, 2009 at 01:48 PM | 16 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. sptaylor Posted: December 02, 2009 at 02:59 PM (#3401054)
The author indicts Jeter for his non-awareness of his declining defensive skills, but really, how many athletes notice the early stages of their decline?
   2. Yankee Redneck is a Pinhead. Posted: December 02, 2009 at 03:03 PM (#3401060)
If you haven't watched the recent HBO documentary on the 1980 Muhammad Ali vs Larry Holmes fight, you really should, even if you aren't a boxing fan. I was always astounded at how oblivious Ali was to his physical decline but during this training camp, where he is literally at the end of the road and so compromised he can't even work a speed bag effectively, he refuses to recognize what is so obvious to everyone around him.
   3. SoSH U at work Posted: December 02, 2009 at 03:04 PM (#3401061)
Actually, he's not indicting Jeter, blaming Torre and Bowa for not letting him know, apparently under the belief if they had simply mentioned to Derek earlier that his defense was inadequate, he could have corrected the problem.
   4. Hack Wilson Posted: December 02, 2009 at 03:10 PM (#3401069)
The phrase in the excerpt is "confronted" Derek. Maybe during a game on the field immediately after a ball went past a diving Jeter by the entire coaching staff. That would have certainly increased Derek's range.
   5. wjones Posted: December 02, 2009 at 03:50 PM (#3401125)
I think that's been Andruw Jones' problem, too. Nobody told him he was fat, slow, and not able to hit his weight. If only someone had said something...
   6. sunnyday2 Posted: December 02, 2009 at 04:35 PM (#3401173)
The ignorant need not apply? Wow, did anybody not know that? And if you know of a job that the ignorant can do well, please get the word out.
   7. Juan V is the mustard of your doom! Posted: December 02, 2009 at 04:44 PM (#3401186)
Well, if Andruw Jones were able to hit his weight, he would be winning MVP awards year in and year out.
   8. tl; dr (Voxter) Posted: December 02, 2009 at 05:11 PM (#3401209)
nd if you know of a job that the ignorant can do well, please get the word out.


Director of Ignorance and Intolerance. Every company I've ever worked for has had one.
   9. Lassus: Posted: December 02, 2009 at 05:17 PM (#3401213)
The phrase in the excerpt is "confronted" Derek. Maybe during a game on the field immediately after a ball went past a diving Jeter by the entire coaching staff. That would have certainly increased Derek's range.

This week, on A&E;'s INTERVENTION:

Cashman - "He can't see it, and it's hurting us, it's hurting everyone. Doesn't he care?

Girardi - "You're going to need to recognize it, to admit it, for yourself and for us. We love you, but this can't continue."

- clip of Bowa quietly sobbing -
   10. The Essex Snead Posted: December 02, 2009 at 05:23 PM (#3401220)
It's assumed that Bowa's cradling a bottle of Bushmill's while sobbing, right?
   11. Steve Treder Posted: December 02, 2009 at 07:22 PM (#3401385)
Well, if Andruw Jones were able to hit his weight, he would be winning MVP awards year in and year out.

And getting better all the time, to boot!
   12. GuyM Posted: December 02, 2009 at 07:50 PM (#3401429)
The author indicts Jeter for his non-awareness of his declining defensive skills, but really, how many athletes notice the early stages of their decline?

But there wasn't any decline. Jeter has been a very bad SS at least since age 24, if not his whole career.
   13. Tripon Posted: December 03, 2009 at 12:56 AM (#3401681)
The Dodgers did enable Andruw in 2008. They didn't bother to make up an injury for him until May, and then allow him to cut his rehab time in the minors, to come back to the Dodgers.
   14. Tripon Posted: December 03, 2009 at 01:18 AM (#3401689)
Also, the myth among Derek Jeter is that he's the complete player. Why the hell would he think he would need to change the way he played defense until recently?
   15. GotowarMissAgnes Posted: December 03, 2009 at 01:33 AM (#3401699)
Actually, he's not indicting Jeter, blaming Torre and Bowa for not letting him know, apparently under the belief if they had simply mentioned to Derek earlier that his defense was inadequate, he could have corrected the problem.


I guess I wouldn't be so dismissive of the idea that if you convinced a hard working player like Derek Jeter that he was inadequate in an area of play, he might not be able to direct some additional attention and practice to improving in that area.
   16. depletion Posted: December 03, 2009 at 03:13 AM (#3401767)
I'd be kind of surprised if Torre, Bowa, Mattingly and Jeter all didn't know what Jeter's range was. I mean those guys have played or coached maybe 50 zillion ball games or so at the highest level.
#2 re Ali: Ali's inability to realize his decline before that fight may have had to do with too many uppercuts from Smokin Joe.
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