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Jimmy Rollins is the only active on the top 10 hit list at 1598, which I guess means that he could catch Schmidt if he has 4 to 5 healthy seasons with the Phils. However, his numbers have trended down, so I wouldn't bet on him catching Schmidt (Chase Utley only has 959 hits, so he's not a candidate, either).
I guess it is hard to think of guys who spent a really long time with the Mets. Even guys I associate with playing with them a long time - Keith Hernandez, Gary Carter, Mike Piazza - all spent a lot of time with other clubs.
Here is the Mets list:
1. Ed Kranepool 1418
2. Cleon Jones 1188
3. Edgardo Alfonzo 1136
4. Mookie Wilson 1112
5. Bud Harrelson 1029
6. Mike Piazza 1028
7. Daryl Strawberry 1025
8. Howard Johnson 997
9. Jerry Grote 994
10.David Wright 963
16.Rey Ordonez 720
Yikes.
How many players had 3,000 hits for one team? I count 13.
I didn't see the thread which had this list yesterday. Apologies for an unnecessary re-link.
Regarding Kranepool as the Mets leader, there's a good article in the NY Times today about him.
David Wright is the only active Met on the top 10 list for hits, at 963.
Health permitting, he passes Kranepool in about 3 years
Kranepool is also far and away the best retired player to play exclusively for the Mets. He's better than Bruce Benedict though.
By the middle of next year, the Rays will pass the Mets (Crawford), leaving them 3 from the bottom, ahead of only Arizona and Florida with their two Luises.
It's not like anyone is on the verge of catching him, either. David Wright should get there some day, but he's still 450 hits behind.
Heck, Cleveland's hit leader is still Nap Lajoie. Should never have changed the name from the Naps.
not true, as per #8.
that list only had the original franchises, the rest of the franchises are included in this list so it's clear he got his info from more than that thread.
I'm equally surprised that the Athletics' leader is Bert Campaneris.
Rose, Cobb, Musial, Aaron, Mays, Ripken, Gwynn, Yount, Brett, Yaz, Wagner, Biggio, Clemente, Kaline.
I get 14.
It does seem low - but on the bright side you achieved to which a person can reasonably hope for: inspiring a quick bit at THT Live
1-Cobb-Tigers
2-Rose-Reds
3-Yount-Brewers
4-Gwynn-Padres
5-Brett-Royals
6-Ripken-Orioles
7-Biggio-Astros
8-Musial-Cardinals
9-Yaztremski-Red Sox
10-Aaron-Braves
11-Mays-Giants
12-Wagner-Pirates
13-Gehrig/about to be Jeter-Yankees
14-Anson-Cubs
15-Crawford-Rays
16-Collins-Athletics
17-Helton-Rockies
18-I Rodriguez-Rangers
19-Schmidt-Phillies
20-L Gonzalez-Diamondbacks
21-T Fernandez-Blue Jays
22-Sheffield-Marlins
23-Appling-White Sox
24-Speaker-Indians
25-Dawson-Expos
26-Snider-Dodgers
27-G Anderson-Angels
28-Puckett-Twins
29-E Martinez-Mariners
30-Strawberry-Mets
The discrepancy must arise from there being one player who had 3,000 hits for one team despite not being that team's career hits leader. (Kaline)
*EDIT*
Whoops! Forgot Mays.
What about the A's? Bert Campaneris at 1882, and yes, that includes the Philadelphia and KC A's -- over 100 years of history, and not player ever broke 2,000?
EDIT: Should have refreshed before posting
Also, only one guy on the list is active on the team for which he is the leader: I-Rod.
With a home run today, 1,737, and counting.
Edit: Not wrong on the Cubs as per Misirlou below.
Tricksey. 13 teams have had someone get 3,000 hits for them, but 14players have done it. The tigers have a very impressive list. 7 players with more than the top Athletic.
And I just realized than Banks is wrong for the Cubs. It's Anson with 2995.
And Aaron and Cobb.
No, he's right, the blog list is wrong.
Well, they weren't, at least the version of Milwaukee that Hank finished his career with.
Didn't Delorians miss the Twins. Shouldn't that be Sam Rice?
I knew it!
I know we're talking "franchise", but darn, "Washington" just does not sound right...
I'm actually surprised Wallach is ahead of Dawson, Guerrero, Carter and Raines
While it's never a good bet to say a player will get 2,000 more hits in his career, if he keeps up his career pace (again, not a good bet), Pujols will pass 3630 hits before he's 40.
Again, not good odds, so your declaration has a very good chance to be correct. But it seems odd to make it when the best hitter in baseball is under 30 and already nearly 50% there.
Ichiro could get there by late next season. He's 247 behind Edgar
He's slowing down some. I put my money on very early the season after that.
Washington Nationals 2005-Present is of course, Ryan Zimmerman.
is he going to be a Cardinal though for that entire time frame?
As someone already pointed out, Anson is the Cubs leader.
I was surprised to learn that Collins and Speaker each spent much of their prime playing for a second team.
Surprised that Sheffield had so few hits (and years played with the Marlins (or any one team, for that matter)
I knew that Wagner started in Louisville, but somehow I thought that was the same franchise that moved to Pittsburgh, i was wrong.
Several of my other misses were just guesses (Strawberry, Snider, Puckett).
As would I. But say 25 more hits this year and he's now 222 behind. not a good bet, not not a ridiculous proposition either.
IRod is the current Rangers leader, but Michael Young is not far behind, and should move past him next year, unless Ivan resigns with the team.
I'm fully in favor of changing the law of the land to ensure that he is.
Honestly, I expect him to re-sign with the Cards, and eventually retire with the Cards. He's already the face of the franchise, and it's a franchise that has done a remarkably good job of keeping their stars. Combine that with the PR hit they'd take by letting him walk, and I think it's almost a sure thing.
Another bit of uncertainty which lowers the odds. But again, an odd declaration, kind of like someone saying "There will never be a 30 game winner for a long time" when there is someone with 23 wins on Sept 1.
Eric Chavez had 1,026 through his age-27 season. He would have pretty easily broken it. Man, he was so good there, even pretty recently. It's hard to remember that now. Best current bet has to be Kurt Suzuki. 333 at 25, with a contact-approach. After that would be like Ryan Sweeney I guess, but whereas I see Suzuki's chances as being small, but not non-existent, I see Sweeney's as entirely non-existent.
you could be a republican, and you would still get my vote on that platform.
It's not just Connie Mack, either. Reggie Jackson, Mark McGwire, Rickey!... the A's have basically always had trouble holding onto superstars.
Good guesses, but did you really think Carl Crawford had more hits than Kirby Puckett, Mike Schmidt or Edgar Martinez?
Reyes was ahead of Wright until his extended DL spell this year
he has 960 to Wright's 963.
If he's allowed to he should pass Kranepool as well.
he wasn't sorting by hits, he was sorting by certainty of which teams he felt most sure about. With the Rays Crawford was the only real choice, with the other teams there are more options.
He ranked them in order of his certainty the guess was correct.
Hell, even Giambi and Tejada could've staked their claim if they'd been kept around.
He ranked them in order of his certainty the guess was correct.
Aha! My apologies!
Chicago (FL) - Dutch Zwilling, 342 (most by any player for one Federal League franchise)
Louisville (AA/NL) - Jimmy "Chicken" Wolf, 1,438
(old) Baltimore Orioles (NL) - Joe Somer, 670
Cleveland Spiders (NL) - Ed McKean, 2,011 (most by any player with a defunct team)
Chicago (Players League) - Hugh Duffy, 191 (most by any player for one PL team)
Washington (UA) - Harry Moore, 155 (Fred Dunlap and Orator Shaffer had more for St. Louis, but that team also played briefly in the NL. Moore has the most for any franchise that didn't play outside the UA. [And nobody has any idea who Moore was, since he never played anywhere else!])
Wilmington Quicksteps (UA) - Tom Lynch, 16 (just because I could)
Baltimore Marylands (NA; played a total of six games, lost them all) - Three players with 4.
Did they all have loose bowels?
Didn't the Spiders lose like 120+ games on year? How many hits did McKean get that year?
I'm kind of surprised that Clemente was the Pirates' leader. I would've expected both Wagner and Paul Waner to be ahead of him, but I underestimated the number of hits both had with other clubs.
The Spiders sent Ed McKean to the St. Louis Perfectos right before the year they went 20-134. That was the only year in franchise history McKean didn't play for the team, and it's where baseball learned not to piss off Ed McKean. McKean ranked #77 on the St. Louis career hits list when he stopped playing. He's been passed by a few hundred Perfectos since then, and he's now tied for #440 with Ray Sadecki and Steve Lake.
Well, almost over -- he's tied. One more hit to go.
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