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Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Casselberry: Plate Discipline: The Detroit Tigers’ Mantra Next Season?

And this all started with a can of Sardinha!

It can result in some tedious baseball.  Games against the Yankees and Red Sox seem to take far longer than those against other teams.  And when they play each other?  Set aside four hours of your time.  But it seems to yield winning results more often than not.  All three of those teams made it to the postseason.

Compare that to the Tigers, who continually let opposing pitchers off the hook by jumping on pitches early in the count.  Many times, pitchers had to throw less than 10 pitches to get out of an inning.  Only one regular starter, Brandon Inge, averaged more than four pitches (4.09) per plate appearance.  (Though Curtis Granderson was close at 3.96.)

That’s not to say that Tigers batters should never swing at the first pitch (which I know is a pet peeve for several fans).  You see your pitch, you attack it.  That seems to have been Lloyd McClendon’s philosophy as hitting coach.  So it’s troubling that he appears to be returning in that role for next season.  But perhaps he believes a change in approach is necessary, as well, and sold that to Jim Leyland and Dombrowski when his performance was up for review.

So is this an encouraging development going into next season?  Is it too early to say, before seeing if this new philosophy is actually enacted and yields some results?  Who are some current Tigers hitters that you think would benefit from a more patient, disciplined approach at the plate?

Repoz Posted: October 13, 2009 at 11:32 PM | 3 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. fra paolo Posted: October 14, 2009 at 11:04 AM (#3351534)
This is an interesting thesis, but we don't have enough information to form an opinion about whether Dombrowski is right to see an organizational problem. We really need to know more about the minor-league system, which is where I think Dombrowski is looking, but the article focuses on the major-league level. Of course, I could look it up myself, but that's what I expect bloggers to do!

One thing, though, if Brandon Inge is your most patient hitter, you're going to play short games!
   2. Double-Spin Mechanic Posted: October 14, 2009 at 02:22 PM (#3351755)
The problem is that pitches/Pa doesn't really measure patience. Inge gets to 4 by alternating 2nd pitch pop-ups and 6 pitch strikeouts (wild oversimplification). Put simply, it takes a lot of pitches to strike out.

The true value would be to bump two lists: Guys sorted by P/PA and K/PA, (with perhaps a respectful nod to BB/K). The guys who are high on the first but not the second are patient. Wild flailers who K a lot aren't patient.
   3. Jose Canusee Posted: October 14, 2009 at 04:37 PM (#3351964)
Do any columnists claim that Bos-NYY games are boring softball contests from all the walks and HRs?
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