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Sunday, November 11, 2007

Chicago Tribune: Rogers - White Sox, Cubs coming up short (RR)

Juan Uribe, who on Wednesday re-enlisted with the White Sox, and Ryan Theriot look like second-division regulars.

Both are solid fielders—the unorthodox Uribe is both reliable and uses a powerful throwing arm to get outs on grounders to his right that many shortstops, including Theriot, could not; Theriot combines toughness with hustle to overcome marginal tools. But neither was a plus for their team at the plate in 2007.
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White Sox general manager Ken Williams reluctantly re-signed Uribe to a one-year, $4.5-million contract because he was not sure he could find a better alternative through free agency or trades… At their organizational meetings, the Cubs gave some thought to trying to upgrade over Theriot, who in his first full season in the big leagues took a job away from Cesar Izturis by batting .266 with 28 stolen bases and 80 runs scored. How could they not?

Theriot is the same guy whom they didn’t trust enough to pencil in at second base after 2006, when he hit .328 and stole 13 bases in 53 games. He was good enough to help LSU win the College World Series in 2000 but needed 567 games in the minor leagues before being finally judged ready for the big leagues.

Cubs GM Jim Hendry confirms that Lou Piniella is comfortable with the 27-year-old Theriot as his shortstop. Hendry points out Theriot’s 2007 season looked much better before he batted .202 in September, and that the Cubs still were winning while he was showing signs of fatigue. He believes Theriot will be able to deliver more impact in ‘08.

But it’s also true Theriot and Uribe are retaining their positions because there just aren’t many shortstops available.

NTNgod Posted: November 11, 2007 at 06:12 AM | 11 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan The Mediocre Posted: November 11, 2007 at 03:46 PM (#2611635)
You know what month is out of place for Theriot? July, where he hit .348/.437/.483. Theriot becomes acceptable at SS if the Cubs decide to go after a big RF bat, and even then a Theriot-Fontenot platoon is a much better option.
   2. Meatwad is on team keefe Posted: November 11, 2007 at 06:44 PM (#2611699)
theriot isnt all that bad, and as long as the rest of the offense does whats expected its ok to have a super cheap player at short
   3. Kiko Sakata Posted: November 11, 2007 at 07:20 PM (#2611719)
Theriot’s 2007 season looked much better before he batted .202 in September


And it's not like those games in September were important or anything, were they?

A team can do fine with a guy like Theriot at short (Lugo had a worse season offensively), but obviously it's one of the spots where the Cubs could get the most bang for their buck if they upgrade.
   4. Meatwad is on team keefe Posted: November 11, 2007 at 07:26 PM (#2611721)
but also is it really worth it to upgrade when you can pay the guy 300,000 or so for the year and use that money else where, of course they could just use murton in left and put sori in right and then use it a short but they wont do that
   5. SouthSideRyan Posted: November 11, 2007 at 07:27 PM (#2611722)
Seriously,Tejada is begging to be traded for, but we'll go ahead and stick with Mr. Grit.
   6. Kiko Sakata Posted: November 11, 2007 at 07:39 PM (#2611727)
but also is it really worth it to upgrade when you can pay the guy 300,000 or so for the year and use that money else where, of course they could just use murton in left and put sori in right and then use it a short but they wont do that


But where else can they spend the money to upgrade? They're as good as they're going to find on the market at C, 1B, 2B, 3B, and LF. Their pitching staff is solid 3 starters deep, their bullpen's one of the best out there (not to mention that the bullpen's a stupid place to invest big money).

If the Cubs have money to burn, their choices are to burn it at SS, RF, or on another starter. It's not my money, so as far as I'm concerned, they ought to be looking to fill all of those holes. But in terms of big-money guys, it seems to me that the two best options out there for the Cubs are A-Rod (if they think he can still play SS) and Tejada. I can see saying A-Rod's not worth the money, but if the Cubs can acquire Tejada in exchange for a couple of starters (Zambrano/Lilly/Hill excepted, of course), I think they'd be stupid not to.
   7. Meatwad is on team keefe Posted: November 11, 2007 at 07:41 PM (#2611730)
i could see sending marshall and theriot to baltimore for tejada, and hell throw in another aaa player and i would be happy

edited to add that i forgot tejada would probly be moved. maybe thats why they said towards the end of the season they werent really looking to spend on free agents but rather trade
   8. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: November 11, 2007 at 09:10 PM (#2611766)
i could see sending marshall and theriot to baltimore for tejada, and hell throw in another aaa player and i would be happy

Maybe if that aaa player is Pie. Otherwise, no. Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall seems reasonable.
   9. Meatwad is on team keefe Posted: November 11, 2007 at 09:15 PM (#2611769)
no way wold i deal pie for tejada, besides he is going to start in center this year, why open a hole when you dont have to, unless the get fukkdome
   10. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: November 11, 2007 at 09:45 PM (#2611783)
There are a lot more CF on the market than SSs. Trading for Tejada and signing Hunter would be expensive, but it would give them a hell of a lineup. In any event, I can't imagine the cubs can get Tejada without giving up Pie, unless they do something like Tejada and Hernandez for Soto, Gallagher, Cedeno and Marmol.
   11. Meatwad is on team keefe Posted: November 11, 2007 at 09:57 PM (#2611790)
i cant see the cubs trading pie much less soto. both are slated to start this year, now of course if they had an amazing offer i could see moving pie
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