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Concord Monitor: Arroyo talks rock ‘n’ roll

Many, many years ago I was drugged and dragged to a Crystal Ship show…I turned all sortsa different colors and fell violently ill…and the drugs didn’t help either!

Q What should people expect for a set list?

It’s all cover songs, you know. And pretty much I’m still doing some of my stuff off the record, probably four, five, six songs off the record, and then just a bunch of rock ‘n’ roll songs that we enjoy playing, you know? Some Tom Petty and Oasis and Staind and just, you know, rock ‘n’ roll that’s been on the radio for the last 10 years.

Q If you could pick five albums to be stranded with on a desert island, what would they be?

If I had to take them on a desert island, No. 1 without a doubt is Pearl Jam “Ten”. I’d say Counting Crows, their first album, “August and Everything After” ... Let’s see, I’d say Metallica “Black.” Um, and I’m trying to think, off the top of the head, I know there’s plenty more but it’s hard to think about them. Let’s see, those three for sure. Let’s see, hmmm. One. Two. Three. Ah, there’s so many good albums, but a lot of them I’m thinking only have two or three really good songs on them, you know?

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201. Not The Real Fausto Carmona (Dan Lee) Posted: January 18, 2007 at 11:07 AM (#2282409)

Who knows, maybe after enough reflection, music lovers of the year 2112 will frown on your Celine bashing

And what role would the priests of the Temple of Syrinx play in all this?

They'd probably think Celine Dion is nothing new and just a waste of time: another toy to help destroy the elder race of man.

And I assume they'd have no need for ancient ways.

202. NTNgod Posted: January 18, 2007 at 11:13 AM (#2282410)

Beatles: 1967-1970

FOUL! Use of compilation! Cheater! :P

On a related note, it appears there finally getting off their a**es and releasing remasters of the albums sometime this year, for the first time since the original '87 release. Considering the original CDs are 20 years old, and were a real ####-up in a lot of cases in the first place to boot - it's about time.

There's rumored to be a Super Bowl commercial with an iTunes tie-in, too.

My one fear is that they're mastered and mixed like '1' was; I really don't want to hear any more of the Beatles mastered and mixed like they're the Red Hot Chili Peppers or Metallica or *INSERT CURRENT POP SINGER HERE*....

On the other hand, the songs that were remastered and remixed for the Anthology DVD sounded fantastic, so who knows?

203. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: January 18, 2007 at 11:23 AM (#2282412)

I know its kinda retro now, but I like the way an album flows and creates its own synergy. So I am against compilations, esp Beatles, who had some of the best flowing albums ( even white album works out in the end ).

hmm since i am bored, here are my 5 in no order

1) Revolver : Beatles
2) Wish you were here : Pink Floyd
3) Led Zep : Untitled ( or LZ IV )
4) Radiohead : Ok Computer
5) Pearl Jam : Ten or Nirvana : Nevermind, tough choice!

204. Answer Guy Posted: January 18, 2007 at 01:34 PM (#2282446)

I know its kinda retro now, but I like the way an album flows and creates its own synergy. So I am against compilations, esp Beatles, who had some of the best flowing albums ( even white album works out in the end ).

Well, I figure that for most rock artists, including compilations is cheating.

I thought Rolling Stone's Top 500 included too many of them. They're fine for rockabilly performers or most Motown or other artists who really only worked in singles and you really have no other choice. But there was a David Bowie compilation on there, along with four other Bowie albums. And Bob Marley's "Legend," which I suppose has its own identity to an extent, but there are three other albums by Marley on there.

205. Dilettantie Mame Posted: January 18, 2007 at 01:39 PM (#2282450)

1) James Brown - Love, Power Peace (live album with Bootsy-era JBs). If comps are allowed, then replace this with Star Time. The King is dead. Long live the King.
2) Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
3) Prince - Sign O'the Times
4) Al Green - Gets Next to You
5) Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back

206. Benji Gil Gamesh is not being paid to be that guy Posted: January 18, 2007 at 04:29 PM (#2282532)

But why is there a limited audience if the music is so good?

Well, two possible answers are: in some cases, the music *isn't* so good; or, it's considered "difficult" or dissonant or generally not catchy enough. Most people like melody and hooks, and either don't care about or actively dislike complex time signatures or songs that have to be heard many times to really appreciate.

Is hte mainstrwam not smart enough to get what is good music? Do you have to have a good ear or a good sense of music or rhythm to get indie rock?

Maybe so, on both counts. But you also have to consider that (as mentioned by someone else) not everyone cares enough to dig around for lesser-known stuff -- and also that they aren't looking for the same thing from music that you are.

You could have very similar discussions about other creative media -- movies, books, art -- and you'll always have a pretty large split between what's critically acclaimed and what's popular, with the rare piece that hits the sweet spot of both.

207. SoSH U at work Posted: January 18, 2007 at 04:49 PM (#2282553)

You could have very similar discussions about other creative media -- movies, books, art -- and you'll always have a pretty large split between what's critically acclaimed and what's popular, with the rare piece that hits the sweet spot of both.

And the big difference between other popular media (movies, television, books, not so much art) and music is that the critically acclaimed movies sit side by side with the 'splosion filled blockbusters at the multiplex, the Emmy-winning shows are on the same network that carries Fear Factor and bookstores carry both the Oprah-OK'd bestsellers and the Pulitzer Prize winners. As others noted, because of the nature of the music industry and the crap fest that is broadcast radio, you can listen to music your entire life and never be knowingly introduced to Sonic Youth, Yo La Tengo or Pavement unless you go looking for it.

208. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: January 18, 2007 at 04:52 PM (#2282556)

Really..which network do you catch critically acclaimed, limited release movies? esp the foreign language ones?

209. SoSH U at work Posted: January 18, 2007 at 05:05 PM (#2282561)

Really..which network do you catch critically acclaimed, limited release movies? esp the foreign language ones?

I'm not sure what you mean by network?

But obviously not every critically acclaimed movie gets widespread release. But many do. And then they all end up at the same video stores (though fewer and fewer people do). My point is that the more critically acclaimed works in those media are easier to find, and know to begin with, than much of the music on this thread.

210. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: January 18, 2007 at 05:11 PM (#2282570)

As someone living in a major city, catching non-big studio movies is a biatch! There are two halls, which show independent movies, and if you are not on the lookout, they will be pulled before you realise it.

Music on the other hand is awesome. You can catch all kinds of weird bands on the cheap, and no matter how low key, they fairly well publicised.

211. Phil Coorey, You Won't Posted: January 20, 2007 at 09:45 AM (#2283516)

As others noted, because of the nature of the music industry and the crap fest that is broadcast radio, you can listen to music your entire life and never be knowingly introduced to Sonic Youth, Yo La Tengo or Pavement unless you go looking for it.

So true. That is the true meaning of indie or alternative music in my opinion.

212. farfalone Posted: January 20, 2007 at 02:10 PM (#2283532)

and what's the best beer in the market for you? won't be coronita,hein?

213. Phil Coorey, You Won't Posted: January 21, 2007 at 03:03 AM (#2283749)

and what's the best beer in the market for you? won't be coronita,hein?

Too many to name

214. Big Train Posted: January 21, 2007 at 03:33 AM (#2283756)

OOooh, a desert island album thread....

Pearl Jam, Official Bootleg, 11.6.00 Key Arena, Seattle.
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, Clap your hands say yeah
Lucinda Williams Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
Bob Dylan Offical Bootleg volume 5: Rolling Thunder Revue
Warren Zevon Excitable Boy

215. TFTIO who can remember his past lives Posted: January 21, 2007 at 04:07 AM (#2283763)

Hmmm. Best of my lifetime? I have 1159 albums in my iTunes library from 1971 - 2007. Picking five would be tough. In no particular order;

The Harder They Come Soundtrack - Jimmy Cliff, Toots, &c.
Jettison - Naked Raygun
Master Of Puppets - Metallica
Fear Of A Black Planet - Public Enemy
What's Going On - Marvin Gaye

Ask me in 30 seconds, and you'd get a different five.

Other opinions expressed in this thread: Sonic Youth are impossibly bad post Sister (and pre-Sister, for that matter) save for "Teenage Riot", which is oddly one of the best rock singles ever recorded. "Rockism" is the refuge of whinging losers without the courage of their own aesthetic convictions. Metal is woefully underrepresented. Mastodon's Blood Mountain was the best record of last year. Insert a nickel, get a TFTIO opinion.

216. jyjjy Posted: January 21, 2007 at 04:34 AM (#2283770)

I wouldn't even say Teenage Riot is the best song on the album.

217. Lassus: Posted: January 21, 2007 at 05:58 AM (#2283792)

You know, from the years of 1987-1992 I was so Sonic Youthed to death I didn't care how great they were, I just wanted them to go away. I knew I should love them but just couldn't care because no one would shut up about them.

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