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Tuesday, June 10, 2008

Davidoff: Mike Mussina on Carl Pavano, and Tom Glavine on Jose Reyes

On my trip home from Yankee Stadium early Saturday evening, I finished reading “Living on the Black,” John Feinstein’s latest sports book. Feinstein convinced Mike Mussina and Tom Glavine to open up to him about their 2007 seasons, and the two veteran pitchers provided Feinstein with plenty of material with their performances alone, far from all positive.

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1. You probably won’t be shocked to learn of Mussina’s contempt for the always-injured Pavano, but you’ll laugh nonetheless. When Mussina was negotiating a new contract with the Yankees in October 2006, Brian Cashman offered him a two-year, $18-million package.

“Brian, you’re not paying me less than you’re paying Carl Pavano,” Mussina responded. “Don’t insult me.” Mussina wound up re-signing for two years and $23 million.

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4. When the Yankees demoted Mussina from the starting rotation to the bullpen last August, Mussina was livid with pitching coach Ron Guidry, who essentially stopped speaking to Mussina. “I’d go by him in the clubhouse, and he’d look right through me,” Mussina said of Guidry. “It was as if I’d become a ghost.”

Prior to that, however, Guidry comes off as surprisingly involved in Mussina’s work.

Mets fans will love Glavine blaming his final start last season on Reyes and Milledge I’m sure.  There’s some damning stuff on Torre and Randolph in there as well.  Both pitchers also say this is their final seasons.

It’s good to see Moose pitching better the last couple times out.  Hopefully he can finish the season strong and it’d be really nice if he lucked into 20 wins, otherwise I’m afraid he won’t make the HOF.

Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: June 10, 2008 at 09:07 PM | 9 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. Russlan will never be fond of Jason Bay Posted: June 10, 2008 at 11:37 PM (#2814553)
Glavine pitched very well for the Mets overall and his last start is going to tarnish his rep with Met fans more than it should. That said, he shouldn't be blaming anyone but himself for getting his butt whipped like that. I am just glad the Braves signed him and gave the Mets two of the high picks.
   2. Roy Hobbs of WIFFLE Ball Posted: June 11, 2008 at 12:01 AM (#2814597)
Prior to that, however, Guidry comes off as surprisingly involved in Mussina's work.


Hence the demotion to the bullpen.
   3. cwinff Posted: June 11, 2008 at 02:02 AM (#2814850)
This piece from his good buddy Ken: "Mind you, Wolf was the guy who got Favre, not the one who traded for his services." Uhh, this is kind of illogical here. Nice to have a job where clear thinking is not required.
   4. cardsfanboy Posted: June 11, 2008 at 02:39 AM (#2814939)
I'm still reading the article, but man Glavine is a whiny little girl

Glavine told Feinstein, later: "The last thing we need to be doing is giving people another reason, especially an emotional reason, to want to beat our butts." Glavine immediately knew he was in trouble when Florida's leadoff batter, Hanley Ramirez, came back from 0-and-2 for a walk. Said Glavine: "That told me that these


were they supposed to roll over and let the Mets win? Ohh, we are the Mess and we blew a historic lead, and yet somehow I'm not going to blame my crappy pitching, but instead I'll blame a couple of excited youngsters for motivating another young team into playing hard instead of just giving what we were owed...

reminds me of most rich old white folk and that feeling of entitlement.

he was in trouble because somehow a little celebrating the night before inspired a team not to bite at his garbage?
   5. Belfry Bob Posted: June 11, 2008 at 04:18 AM (#2815058)
Glad to see that Mussina is still a major a##hat.

Pavano was a major failure, but Mussina didn't have to talk about him like that...or at all, as funny as we might find it to be.

And what poetic justice if a pitching coach stopped talking to him...how ironic. This from a guy who used to blow off pitching meetings with regularity.

I am so rooting for 19 wins.
   6. Phil Coorey, You Won't Posted: June 11, 2008 at 09:00 AM (#2815120)
I like Feinstein on the back of a 'good walk spoiled' - not sure about this book especially with the "King of Germs" Mussina taking up half the space..
   7. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Molina Posted: June 11, 2008 at 09:40 AM (#2815122)
I used to buy everything Feinstein wrote until I read "The Punch" about Kermit Washington. I've actually wondered if someone else wrote it and no one copy edited it. It was horrible and I found my copy in the sales bin at The Dollar Store, where it was still overpriced.
   8. Harvey Berkman Posted: June 11, 2008 at 09:59 AM (#2815127)
I think he makes the Hall, but maybe not on his first year of eligibility though, specially if Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz leave this year.
   9. Phil Coorey, You Won't Posted: June 11, 2008 at 11:45 AM (#2815156)
It was horrible and I found my copy in the sales bin at The Dollar Store, where it was still overpriced.


Hilarious!

Hope your well p8p - seems its been a while
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