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Thursday, October 08, 2009

Dayton Moore and Trey Hillman Need to Stop Lecturing, Start Bringing In Better Players

Trey Hillman and Dayton Moore have lectured us all season. Their mistakes, we’ve been repeatedly told, are actually our mistakes. Their failings, we’ve been repeatedly told, are really just our failings. See, the fans and the media have both a moral and an intellectual shortcoming: we’re too impatient and we’re too dumb. Since this summer, the Royals have consistently pushed a bizarre social criticism on the public, claiming that Americans are too into instant gratification, which has poisoned our abilities to fully appreciate all the great progress they’ve made with the Royals.

...Dayton Moore and Trey Hillman are both, essentially, rookies. They are rookies at their current level of employment. This is not to say that they may not be great General Managers and Managers someday, but it is to acknowledge that, at present, they have not, as they say, done anything at their current level. They need to hold the Alex Gordon mirror up to themselves. The unfounded arrogance of team management in the past year has been absolutely stunning, and I’m not the only one to notice it. On and off the record, just about anyone close to the team has remarked about the siege mentality that’s taken over, and that mentality is driven by an unwillingness to take criticism or even acknowledge slight mistakes.

...And before we go, here’s another thing. Draft better. Draft better and make better trades. Actually adhering to your supposed process would be nice. The next time you want to trade away arms for old, expensive, bad players, don’t do it. Getting a fat budget and drafting completely predictable players in the early rounds is not exactly brilliance. Its a good strategy, but stop parading your process so much when, and this might hurt, a dude with a Baseball America subscription could have done the same thing. Bring us some late-round guys that emerge. Prove to us how smart you are. The Royal system, which has been overhauled since 2006, is still weak. There have been hits and there have been misses, but three drafts in, there’s still a lot of uncertainty.

Yeah…and is Chino Cadahia ready yet?

Repoz Posted: October 08, 2009 at 10:57 AM | 22 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. bfan Posted: October 08, 2009 at 12:18 PM (#3344817)
Why do the Royals attract so many good writers as fans?
   2. Bob Tufts Posted: October 08, 2009 at 12:24 PM (#3344819)
The best writers usually have faced some form of mental agony on a daily basis. A 162 game season of watching KC play definitely produces enough pain.
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 08, 2009 at 12:30 PM (#3344824)
I love Will's stuff at Royals Review. I don't know what he would write about if the Royals were good. Thankfully, we won't have to find out for a few years.
   4. Greg Schuler Posted: October 08, 2009 at 01:29 PM (#3344884)
I have to admit, as a proud First Stater, I take in my fair share of Wilmington Blue Rocks games and I can't tell you if anyone I saw this season is a true MLB player. Not even Hosmer or Moustakas or Duffy or Montgomery or Lough or Bianchi or Robinson or whoever.

Compare that with teams past of even the brief flirtation with the Red Sox - I knew Ellsbury, Lowrie and Sanchez were average to good MLB players the first few times I saw them. I don't get that feeling with the Baby Royals prospects and haven't since the early 2000s.

Ken Harvey and Norris Hopper spoiled me, I guess. Not even the side arming Rowdy Hardy express could change it.
   5. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: October 08, 2009 at 04:11 PM (#3345061)
No kidding, Greg. Were you around for the glory days of Michael Tucker and Johnny Damon?
   6. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: October 08, 2009 at 04:25 PM (#3345079)
So...what will the Royals do with Betancourt, Jacobs, Guillen and Farnsworth?

edit: What is that, like 47 billion dollars of payroll for those 4?
   7. McCoy Posted: October 08, 2009 at 04:33 PM (#3345084)
Why do the Royals attract so many good writers as fans?

Because nobody likes fanboys of frontrunners. And really what kind of insight are we going to gain from somebody who writes about the Yankees? Hey we should get the best player in the game. Ta-da! We did. We should do it again. Ta-da! We did. About the only writer for a good team that got some love from the sabes is Goldman and Goldman's work mostly dealt with all the little things the Yanks did wrong or all the cliches that their announcers and coaches and writers spouted. We all like to play GM and it is easier to point at what is wrong and say how we would do it right. There was an onion headline from a couple of days ago that I chuckled at that applies here. "New High School alumni makes successful use of Vague Graduation Advice"
   8. Brandon in MO (Yunitility Infielder) Posted: October 08, 2009 at 04:36 PM (#3345093)
But Greg, Wilmington (with it's last-place offense) went to the playoffs, THAT MEANS THEY MUST BE GOOD
   9. Swedish Chef Posted: October 08, 2009 at 04:39 PM (#3345098)
Why do the Royals attract so many good writers as fans?

A true artist must suffer, and the Royals excels at causing pain.

EDIT: Oh yeah, coke to #2, originality is overrated.
   10. vortex of dissipation Posted: October 08, 2009 at 04:52 PM (#3345107)
The best writers usually have faced some form of mental agony on a daily basis.


The Stephen Stills effect. When Stills was in turmoil, he wrote some fine songs. When he was happy, he wrote terrible ones...
   11. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: October 08, 2009 at 04:56 PM (#3345116)
Because nobody likes fanboys of frontrunners.

Bill Simmons started going downhill after 2004.
   12. DL from MN Posted: October 08, 2009 at 04:59 PM (#3345122)
> Betancourt, Jacobs, Guillen and Farnsworth

They can coddle Farnsworth and hope he puts up good small sample size numbers by the All-Star break. Jacobs might have another fluke season and get dumped like Aubrey Huff. They're stuck with the other two.
   13. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: October 08, 2009 at 05:01 PM (#3345125)
They're stuck with the other two.

I could envision a scenario where Guillen ends up with the Mets but yeah, they're stuck.
   14. Brandon in MO (Yunitility Infielder) Posted: October 08, 2009 at 05:02 PM (#3345128)
Jacobs should be non-tendered.

Unless the team thinks that they can either (a) platoon Guillen or (b) play Guillen in RF.

Guillen as a DH is gonna suck, but it's their only real option.
   15. AROM Posted: October 08, 2009 at 05:10 PM (#3345139)
When Bill James started writing the abstracts, the Royals were essentially what the Angels are now in the AL West. Guys like Neyer and Sickels spent their formative years in the George Brett era. Before Brett, the Royals had a winning team in only their 3rd year after expansion.
   16. RB in NYC (Now with New Running Goal!) Posted: October 08, 2009 at 05:13 PM (#3345146)
Bill Simmons started going downhill after 2004.
Simmons' problem is the same as if Rodney Dangerfield had woken up one day looking like Brad Pitt. Sometimes the material can stay the same, but the circumstances differ.
   17. Greg Schuler Posted: October 08, 2009 at 05:43 PM (#3345176)
I missed Tucker and Damon, but I did get to see Carlos Beltran, my first year in the First State.

As far as making the playoffs, which is WAY too important for the local ballclub, that's simply the beauty of the split season.
   18. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: October 08, 2009 at 05:47 PM (#3345183)
I keep forgetting Beltran played there. I wasn't going to any ballgames in 1997, as I disowned baseball in those years.

Sometimes the material can stay the same, but the circumstances differ.

That's certainly true. I haven't kept up with him lately but I've been enjoying his basketball columns far more than his Red Sox ones.
   19. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: October 08, 2009 at 06:04 PM (#3345197)
I have to admit, as a proud First Stater, I take in my fair share of Wilmington Blue Rocks games and I can't tell you if anyone I saw this season is a true MLB player. Not even Hosmer or Moustakas or Duffy or Montgomery or Lough or Bianchi or Robinson or whoever.


I'm pretty down on Hosmer and Moose, but I do think Duffy and Montgomery have quite a bit of potential. Of course, Jimmy Gobble and Chris George put up really good numbers at that level too. David Lough looks like a poor man's David DeJesus. Jeff Bianchi could go in a lot of different directions. He's gone from terrific prospect, to injury-prone, to bust, to back on the radar in a short career. He could be Ben Zobrist, he could be Jed Hansen, hard to say.
   20. cpass Posted: October 08, 2009 at 07:27 PM (#3345281)
I knew Ellsbury, Lowrie and Sanchez were average to good MLB players the first few times I saw them.

If you thought Lowrie was an average to good MLB player the first time you saw him then I seriously doubt your abilities to judge prospects and must therefore assume that the Royals have some pretty good ones.

(I say that half seriously, half tongue-in-cheek.)
   21. Mike Emeigh Posted: October 08, 2009 at 07:35 PM (#3345297)
Wilmington (with it's last-place offense) went to the playoffs


That's an awful ballpark for hitters, though.

Hosmer just turned 20 and has played in two tough places for hitters, plus he's being pushed pretty hard. I still think he's going to be pretty good eventually, although he's going to have to start showing it soon. Moustakas's numbers in context aren't bad at all.

-- MWE
   22. Brandon in MO (Yunitility Infielder) Posted: October 08, 2009 at 08:06 PM (#3345320)
Hosmer didn't deserve a promotion to Wilmington, but at least it sped up the LASIK
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