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The "Pedroia sucks!" crowd has been vindicated. Not Dustin, but close enough.
And this is important information, why, exactly?
He wants to know if it was hot or if it was gross.
"Apart from you?..."
Could be worse. He could've been mentioned in the Mitchell Report.
It appears we have a winner!
If he forced the victim to orally copulate him, it is potentially worse just because it forces the victim to be a more active participant in his victimization that if he was the receiver. If he copulated the victim, the victim can at least close his eyes and pretend it's a cute girl (or boy, if the victim is gay/bi) he would want to be with instead.
Really? You think. This must be extremely embarrassing. He might prefer being in the report.
OK, I'm no lawyer. I'd say either way, or both ways, it's a grotesque exploitation of the adult/child power relationship.
Get help. Immediately.
Of course it is. Doesn't mean that one couldn't be worse. Saying that it might be less horrible if all that happened was him blowing the kid is hardly an endorsement of adults sucking pre-pubescent ####.
Learn to read. Immediately.
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the troll
Just to be tasteless for a moment.
The Abrdiged Mac:
Whoa, whoa, whoa, who said anything about getting blown? I'm sorry, we need to clarify something, do you think Murray blew them? If Murray is fondling or touching them, whatever, I get it. But if he's dishing out blowjobs...come on, I just don't understand. I was in that class with them...I was WITH those guys! Look at this, I was cute, I was energetic, I was fun...what exactly was this prick looking for. If the McPoyle's got blown, and Charlie got blown...why didn't I get blown?
This is some f*cked up sh*t and I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy and his family.
Don't think I've run into too many ten year old boys who are interested in being copulated by (a) a cute girl; or (b) a boy.
Concur with Milford: you are one sick f###.
I wonder what makes people do sick #### like that. Genetics? Traumatic experience? Hopefully the victim can get enough counseling, so he can grow up and live a decent life.
First, who said he was 10? Could be 14. Or do we know?
Second, of course 10 year olds want to get sucked. And maybe this one wanted to get sucked by that one, how the hell do you know?
Fixed. Seriously, not the most popular inmates.
And here I didn't want to laugh at anything in this thread.
I wonder what makes people do sick #### like that. Genetics? Traumatic experience? Hopefully the victim can get enough counseling, so he can grow up and live a decent life.
First of all there is no hell, nor heaven, but that's another discussion. His own special hell will be whatever facility he ends up in and the abuse he will have to endure for essentially being lower than pond scum.
And yes, he's obviously very, very sick. I wish we knew what the answer is because paedophiles seem to fit into a very narrow demographic of males over 30, but come from a broad range of backgrounds...having been molested themselves is quite prominant though...
As for the victim, what an incredibly long road ahead for the poor child and his family. As a father of 5 kids I can't even begin to imagine what this would be like.
As I said before, this is some f*cked up sh*t.
Good. Answered once and for all.
O.K., I took the bait to the point that you are pretty f*cked up for even suggesting this..
1) Is there a special category for "10 to 14"? Why do they say that? Presumably they know how old the child was. Is there a different category for, like 14-18 (is that even legal?), and like 1-10 or whatever?
2) Plea bargaining is strange -- I'm sure there's no way Pedroia is guilty of exactly one of these counts.
No people with Cancer are sick. Peopple with the flu are sick. Heck, in my old age I'm willing to concede people with anxiety disorders are sick. Molesting a ####### child isn't the action of a sick person, unless they have the flu at the time. It is the action of someone who is evil, he has stolen something that can never be replaced and is more valuable than perhaps anything outside of the gift of life.
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I'd say that Dustin Pedroia is on a infinitetismally smaller scale than most MVP's.
Oh ya also Woodland hills is within 30 minutes of my house ewwwww...
Well now you are just pontificating really; bottom line is that he is very sick. His brain is not functioning properly, the dude is really mentally ill. Beyond my comprehension that's for sure. I too can't understand how one does such horrible things or gets to that point. You start throwing out terms like evil...I mean how do you even define that? Was he born that way? Was there something traumatic that brought him to that point? IMHO, the guys synapses are pretty much fried and he doesn't know what's right or wrong, good or bad, acceptable or unacceptable.
And this is important information, why, exactly?
It's pitchers and catchers reporting.
I can see the "blow vs getting blown" argument being as contentious as the "stats vs scouts" one.
Because Brett Pedroia was feeling toolsy?
No. As I said, he isn't sick. That's just making excuses.
Actually I'm not. I don't pretend to understand the why, nor do I care. I'm simple. I don't need to understand the reasons or the why's to know that calling some one like this sick, doesn't exactly jive with the definition of the word sick I have come to know. I guess I don't know if I believe in nature or nurture but at the end of the day it doesn't matter, not when you do what this "man" is accused of.
Pedroia's from Woodland, not Woodland Hills. Two very different places.
Can't it be both? He is mentally ill for having those urges, and evil for acting on them.
though there's a huge difference between how old i was then (16), and how old brett pedroia was when he copulated this child, there's a definite problem with the sex crimes legislation as currently implemented. though this situation with brett pedroia might not be representative of that, it still is concerning how anyone who stands in the way of the freight train of judgment gets run down and treated like they had raped a child themselves.
i understand where this comes from, but as someone who could very well have been in a similar position had things turned out differently, concerning is definitely the word that comes to mind.
I don't understand your point.
- T. Antoine
Like the sick dunks that Lebron throws down?
100% concur. Stop calling a depraved criminal "sick" or "mentally ill", it's an insult to people with actually mental illnesses.
This guy wanted something and didn't care who he hurt to get it. That's EVIL. It's easy to see why society is so ###### up when every evil mother ###### "needs help".
Considering three other charges were dropped, I seriously doubt it.
Sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn't.
The brain is a very complicated thing.
This is a good point. Public hangings will almost always draw a crowd. For a crowd to appear, it means people have to get off their fat asses and leave the house. Getting off your fat ass and leaving the house burns more calories than sitting on the sofa watching American Idol. Burning calories results in less fattyness. Fattyness is bad for the environment and causes global warming. Ergo, public hangings would help fight global warming.
How is this not a good idea?!?
Beats me. I call dibs on the t-shirt concession.
They would just televise the hangings and then people would sit on their asses at home and watch them.
My plan is undone...
How is this not a good idea?!?
Public hangings were very popular events in 19th century England. There's a very good description in "The Great Train Robbery", IIRC. People used to rent apartments overlooking the gallows and "tail-gate" the event.
The crowd would chant "Oh my, I think he's going to die".
I'd bet front row seats would beat the #### out of any "scared straight" program for troubled youths.
I saw that episode of Law and Order...
I would say your definition of the word sick needs to be revised then. Do you dismiss all mentally ill people this way? Or if someone's mental illness does not result in them harming others allow you to have some sympathy?
A lot of the people who molest children were once molested themselves. By extention, your attitude towards the perpetrators shows a shocking lack of understanding and sympathy for victims as well since they are often times the same person.
Whew that's a breath of fresh air. Now if we can get these crazy Hell's Angels rapists away from my roomate's girlfriend everything will be sweet.
This is Woodland.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Science leads to moral nihilism.
There are perfectly awesome reasons not to stigmatize disease, from a medical point of view. The more stigmatized the condition, the less likely people will be to come in for treatment, and the more likely it is that the condition will worsen and something bad will happen. Stigmatization of disease is bad medicine, making outcomes worse for everyone, no matter how good it may feel to declare things evil.
This is Woodland.
And always keep your distance when you're following a tomato truck.
That sounds to me like you don't usually read Gaelen's posts.
gonna take more than a public hanging to get me out of my mom's basement.
This made me chuckle.
I particularly enjoy Gaelan's posts when he gets on an anti-science kick. Makes me picture him sitting in a yurt somewhere, pounding out rants on a primitive computer he built with his own two hands out of straw and mud, a well worn copy of the Consolation of Philosophy by his side.
This is Woodland.
Is that the truck in which Pedroia was conceived, born and educated?
Phil Donahue advocated for that, at one time.
So disease is evil now?
In a loose philosophical sense, yes it is. As is ignorance, poverty, etc.
By late August, there is not a country-road shoulder around here which is not plastered in spilled tomatoes. I've long wondered why the farmers don't invest in light-weight nets to keep their fruit from falling from the trucks before they reach the canneries.
During such functions troubled youths could be found working the crowd Artful Dodger style. Public hangings were a pickpocket's delight.
DB
Even, as I understand it, when the executed was himself a pickpocket. Though that may be more legend than history.
Granting that this was said in good humour there is a serious point here. I am not a luddite and the reason I am not is I recognize the many and myriad benefits that technology can provide. My point is that it can only provide those benefits is I adopt an intellectual distance between myself and technology such that my thoughts, and hence my will, are not directed by technology and more specifically technological know how. Thus while it is a truism that technology just a tool and hence doesn't decide how it will be used this truism abstracts from the mode of thinking that makes technology possible. This mode of thought, while itself not a tool in a material sense, is evident in this thread in the labelling of behaviour in the scientific terms of medicine which seeks to distinguish between the empirically verifiable world of facts and the unempirical world of judgement. Thus if we want to enjoy the benefits of technology without succumbing to nihilism it can only be done by rejecting, or at least not succumbing to, the technological mode of thinking.*
It even created jobs for these young children... Oftentimes the hangings didn't result in death, so they would hire children to run and jump and grab the legs of criminals, causing them to expire from suffocation in an expeditious fashion.
Good times.
This and #86 sound like Gaelen's "scared straight" program for aspiring philosophy students.
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