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Edes: Nomar to announce retirement

Walked into the pressbox Wednesday morning at City of Palms Park and it’s all set up for a press conference. But it’s not a Josh Beckett or Victor Martinez signing.

Nomar Garciaparra is announcing that he’s retiring from baseball, according to multiple sources. Is there a future tie-in with Red Sox, or is he launching a media career? Don’t know yet.

Thanks to Victor Rojas.

Martone has more…

Nomar Garciaparra will sign a one-day contract with the Red Sox today and then announce his retirement from baseball. He will become a baseball analyst for ESPN.

The Red Sox and Garciaparra have called a press conference for 10:30 a.m. at City of Palm Park. CSNNE.com has confirmed the signing and retirement.

Garciaparra is signing the contract so he can retire as a member of the Red Sox.

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   1. cee lo ortiz Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:19 PM (#3476421)
Garciaparra is signing the contract so he can retire as a member of the Red Sox

How very ridiculous
   2. Dale Sams Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:22 PM (#3476425)
thptttt ^

So is he going to play in today's game?
   3. RJ in TO Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:23 PM (#3476426)
Garciaparra is signing the contract so he can retire as a member of the Red Sox.

He will sprain his wrist during the signing ceremony and miss the next three months.
   4. The 15-Day DL Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:27 PM (#3476434)
I'm going to miss the guy.
   5. Uncle Willy Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:28 PM (#3476437)
The one-day contract is a bit silly. You retire with the last team you played for. Though in Nomar's case, I'll admit I'm not 100% sure which team that is (Dodgers?) Anyway, I, and most fans will think of him primarily as a Red Sock regardless of this last contract.
   6. villageidiom Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:33 PM (#3476445)
The one-day contract is a bit silly. You retire with the last team you played for. Though in Nomar's case, I'll admit I'm not 100% sure which team that is (Dodgers?) Anyway, I, and most fans will think of him primarily as a Red Sock regardless of this last contract.
A's.

This contract is less about what fans think of him as, and more about what Nomar thinks of himself as. (I agree, it's silly to do a one-day contract. But I'm not the one signing the contract. Clearly it's not silly to Nomar.)
   7. gay guy in cut-offs smoking the objective pipe Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:35 PM (#3476448)
Nomar is exactly one day older than I am. So I guess my chance at a baseball career is officially over.
   8. Dale Sams Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:37 PM (#3476452)
Nomar is exactly one day older than I am. So I guess my chance at a baseball career is officially over.


Jamie Moyer. So I've got that going for me.
   9. Dan Szymborski Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:40 PM (#3476454)
Doesn't this kind of screw over Red Sox fans that want a customized Garciaparra jersey in the future? At last check, one of MLB's rules for customization was that names and numbers can't match real players with their last team.
   10. gef the talking mongoose Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:45 PM (#3476458)
The one-day contract is a bit silly. You retire with the last team you played for.


Agreed. When did this silly sort of crap start? I remember it being a (non-)big deal with Jerry Rice a few years ago. What a bunch of drama queens.
   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:46 PM (#3476460)
Can I have this career over again? By age 30, he seemed destined for the HOF.
   12. Mr. J. Penny Smoltzuzaka Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:52 PM (#3476469)
Garciaparra is signing the contract so he can retire as a member of the Red Sox.


As a reformed Nomar fan - I'm OK with a one day contract... at least it isn't for 4 years, $60 million.
   13. aleskel Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:53 PM (#3476470)
Agreed. When did this silly sort of crap start?

Didn't Fisk do it with the Red Sox so they could retire his number?
   14. SugarBear Blanks Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:56 PM (#3476472)
Agreed. When did this silly sort of crap start? I remember it being a (non-)big deal with Jerry Rice a few years ago. What a bunch of drama queens.

Did the Sox make room for him on the 40-man? No?

Sorry, Nomar, spring training invites don't make you a "member of the Red Sox."
   15. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: March 10, 2010 at 02:59 PM (#3476478)
I guess when he gets inducted into the Hall of Could Have Beens he'll be wearing his Red Sox cap.
   16. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:03 PM (#3476484)
As a reformed Nomar fan - I'm OK with a one day contract... at least it isn't for 4 years, $60 million.


What if it's one day, $60 million?
   17. Spivey Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:03 PM (#3476485)
I have no idea why people in this thread are making such a big deal about this. You guys get worked up over the smallest stuff.
   18. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:08 PM (#3476488)
We like to take the fun out of everything.

Oh, and there is no Santa Claus.
   19. Jay Seaver Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:12 PM (#3476496)
It is admittedly petty and silly, but I hope we get "Nomar's Better" chants during the first inning of opening day.

Especially if he's there to cover the game with ESPN.
   20. Gary Truth Serum Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:19 PM (#3476504)
The first one of these that I remember was Roger (football) Craig, who signed a one day contract in 1994 so he could retire with the 49ers. If Fisk didn't do it, can anyone top that?
   21. Jon T. Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:21 PM (#3476507)
Agreed Jay, that would be awesome.

I thought it was a football player, Emmitt Smith maybe, who was the first to do the one day contract thing and now it seems like everybody does it. It is pretty silly but whatever
   22. Jon T. Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:22 PM (#3476510)
Fisk didn't do it, he just got a no-show job after retirement with the Red Sox so they could retire his number.
   23. zack Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:34 PM (#3476524)
Nomar to announce retirement, that name is actually Ramon. 'Ha ha, suckas', says ex-Red Sox.
   24. scotto Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:34 PM (#3476525)
I guess when he gets inducted into the Hall of Could Have Beens he'll be wearing his Red Sox cap.

Joining him at the podium will be Fred Lynn.
   25. jwb Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:37 PM (#3476529)
At last check, one of MLB's rules for customization was that names and numbers can't match real players with their last team.
Is this true? So you can't get a jersey for a one team guy (Musial, Williams, Banks, and Ripken come to mind) at all? That's an odd bit of anti-marketing.

He will sprain his wrist during the signing ceremony and miss the next three months.
This actually happened to Jeff Conine in 2008. . .
   26. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:41 PM (#3476534)
Joining him at the podium will be Fred Lynn.

And in attendance - Tony Conigliaro, Phil Plantier and Sam Horn.
   27. tl; dr (Voxter) Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:43 PM (#3476537)
I don't think it's true. I have a Mark Bellhorn replica that I bought over the winter of 2004. It's a Red Sox jersey.
   28. scotto Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:46 PM (#3476542)
Good call on Tony C. I had an autographed copy of his autobio, Seeing It Through. It took me a while to appreciate the significance of his dating Mamie Van Doren a few times, but I grew into it.
   29. Nasty Nate Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:49 PM (#3476544)
good luck to Nomar. Never made it to the world series but made it about as close as possible this side of the 92 Pirates.

watching him sting line drives to left was a pleasure.
   30. RayDiPerna Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:52 PM (#3476545)
I'm going to miss the guy.


Who, Corey Haim?
   31. Sheer Tim Foli Posted: March 10, 2010 at 03:54 PM (#3476546)
Who, Corey Haim?


Too soon.

Wait - OK you can go now.
   32. RayDiPerna Posted: March 10, 2010 at 04:00 PM (#3476550)
Wait - OK you can go now.


One Corey down. One to go.
   33. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: March 10, 2010 at 04:02 PM (#3476553)
Good call on Tony C. I had an autographed copy of his autobio, Seeing It Through.

I once sold a signed copy of that book, where he'd written "Watch out for beanballs" right under that picture of him with his famous shiner. Showed he had kind of had a sense of humor.

It took me a while to appreciate the significance of his dating Mamie Van Doren a few times, but I grew into it.

I thought that was Bo Belinsky whom Mamie Van Doren had dated, but then I guess she got around.
   34. Chris Pummer Posted: March 10, 2010 at 04:04 PM (#3476558)
Doesn't this kind of screw over Red Sox fans that want a customized Garciaparra jersey in the future? At last check, one of MLB's rules for customization was that names and numbers can't match real players with their last team.


Does this mean I can't get a new Jose Canseco White Sox jersey?
   35. Greg Franklin Posted: March 10, 2010 at 04:29 PM (#3476583)
Edes rolls on, gets Francona memories of "the Nomar trade": Thoughts

Francona's experience with Nomar bookends the beginning and end of Garciaparra's time with the Red Sox. Francona managed Garciaparra in the Arizona Fall League in 1994, after Garciaparra's first season with the Sox organization, and was managing the Sox when Nomar was traded in 2004.

"The time I had him in the Fall League was one of the highlights of my career,'' Francona said. "[In 2004,] I think he was kind of Boston'd out. It kind of wore on him for whatever reasons. Sometimes it's just time to move on.'' ...

Francona, who was in his first season as manager with the Sox, said he didn't fully realize how iconic Garciaparra was in Boston until after the trading-deadline deal that sent Nomar to the Cubs.

"When it was over, I remember laughing with Theo (Epstein), 'I was behind you every step of the way, not in front of you.'''
   36. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: March 10, 2010 at 04:31 PM (#3476591)
"When it was over, I remember laughing with Theo (Epstein), 'I was behind you every step of the way, not in front of you.'''


Wow--I didn't know even Francona wanted Nomar out. Was he that much of a drain on the team?
   37. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: March 10, 2010 at 04:35 PM (#3476603)
When did this silly sort of crap start?

Not exactly the same, but the Braves signed the recently-released Phil Niekro to pitch the last home game of 1987. A one-day contract in Spring Training probably would have been a lot better than 12 baserunners and 6 runs in 3+ innings. Watching him legging it to second on Jose Uribe's error while trying to avoid pulling both hamstrings simultaneously wasn't a welcome edition either.
   38. Rich Rifkin Posted: March 10, 2010 at 04:42 PM (#3476619)
Nomar may be retiring as a Red Sock, but he played his final game by the Bay in the comfy confines of the Oakland Alameda County McAfee Network Associates Coliseum. He also left something behind:
The loveliness of Paris
Seems somehow sadly gay
The glory that was Rome
Is of another day
I've been terribly alone
And forgotten in Manhattan
I'm going home to my city by the bay.

I left my Nose in San Francisco
High on a hill, it calls to me.
To be where little cable cars
Climb halfway to the stars!
The morning fog may chill the air
I don't care!
My Nose waits there in San Francisco
Above the blue and windy sea
When I come home to you, San Francisco,
Your golden sun will shine for me!
   39. scotto Posted: March 10, 2010 at 04:43 PM (#3476621)
I thought that was Bo Belinsky whom Mamie Van Doren had dated, but then I guess she got around.

It's been a long time since I read it; it got destroyed along with the rest of my library about 28 years ago. I seem to remember that they went out a couple of times but that was it. I think it was in the context of needing to protect himself from too much celebrity.
   40. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: March 10, 2010 at 05:02 PM (#3476655)
Nomar looked completely relaxed and happy at the press conference. Lots of warm feelings on both sides on public display.
   41. KronicFatigue Posted: March 10, 2010 at 05:04 PM (#3476660)
Doesn't this kind of screw over Red Sox fans that want a customized Garciaparra jersey in the future? At last check, one of MLB's rules for customization was that names and numbers can't match real players with their last team.


A couple of years ago, I kept trying to order a custom Bernie Williams jersey, but the orders would automatically cancel a week or so after I placed the order. Many phone calls later, I learned that I wasn't allowed to customize a jersey of a player who retired for that team. This annoyed me b/c Bernie made a point of NOT retiring at the time, considering himself a free agent.
   42. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 10, 2010 at 05:15 PM (#3476675)

A couple of years ago, I kept trying to order a custom Bernie Williams jersey, but the orders would automatically cancel a week or so after I placed the order. Many phone calls later, I learned that I wasn't allowed to customize a jersey of a player who retired for that team. This annoyed me b/c Bernie made a point of NOT retiring at the time, considering himself a free agent.


I am confused, because the Yankees don't have names on the back of their jerseys. Are you saying you can't even order a jersey with Bernie's number on it????
   43. Kurt Posted: March 10, 2010 at 05:17 PM (#3476679)
Nomar looked completely relaxed and happy at the press conference.

Did he step away from the podium every fifteen seconds to adjust his cufflinks?
   44. Walt Davis Posted: March 10, 2010 at 05:37 PM (#3476696)
Wow--I didn't know even Francona wanted Nomar out. Was he that much of a drain on the team?

That's not what Francona meant. He was joking about the strong negative reaction and saying "Oh, sure, boss, I was behind you the whole way ... hiding behind you."
   45. SoSH U at work Posted: March 10, 2010 at 05:47 PM (#3476712)
That's not what Francona meant. He was joking about the strong negative reaction and saying "Oh, sure, boss, I was behind you the whole way ... hiding behind you."


yes, but he also said that Nomar was "Boston'd out, and that sometimes it's just time to move on."

Yes, I know, it was all the devious Boston FO and the pliant press that created the whole Nomar issue.
   46. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: March 10, 2010 at 05:53 PM (#3476723)
Thanks Walt--I remember part of that interview now. And, yeah, SoSH--when people started excoriating Boston for "running Nomar out of town", I thought the idea was just as ludicrous then as it is now.
   47. Joe Mauer Power Hour Posted: March 10, 2010 at 06:14 PM (#3476750)
A couple of years ago, I kept trying to order a custom Bernie Williams jersey, but the orders would automatically cancel a week or so after I placed the order. Many phone calls later, I learned that I wasn't allowed to customize a jersey of a player who retired for that team. This annoyed me b/c Bernie made a point of NOT retiring at the time, considering himself a free agent.

Yeah, I looked into a Kirby Puckett jersey once. Didn't take.
   48. RJ in TO Posted: March 10, 2010 at 06:41 PM (#3476762)
One Corey down. One to go.

If I was going to guess which Corey would die first, I wouldn't have guessed Haim.
   49. villageidiom Posted: March 10, 2010 at 06:51 PM (#3476768)
Did the Sox make room for him on the 40-man? No?
I just assumed they would immediately place him on the 60-day DL.
I'm going to miss the guy.
Who, Corey Haim?
Apparently you didn't notice who said they were going to miss him.
   50. SoSH U at work Posted: March 10, 2010 at 06:56 PM (#3476772)
If I was going to guess which Corey would die first, I wouldn't have guessed Haim.


Really? The other one's an idiot, but hasn't Haim been on the verge of an overdose death for going on 15 years now?
   51. Sheer Tim Foli Posted: March 10, 2010 at 06:56 PM (#3476773)
This annoyed me b/c Bernie made a point of NOT retiring at the time, considering himself a free agent.

Yeah, I looked into a Kirby Puckett jersey once. Didn't take.


I am sorry I don't understand this.

Are you guys saying MLB won't sell you a jersey of a player (name and number) if that jersey is for the team the player retired with?
   52. BourbonSamurai is not Fausto Carmona Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:06 PM (#3476783)
I distinctly remember watching WGN baseball when I came home from school (in my mother's basement, of course) and taking so much joy in Harry Caray's blather, and one days he told the story that Nomar was so named because, "When his parents had him, all the other babies in the hospital were named Ramon. So they named him Nomar. (long pause) Which is Ramon backwards."

Has anyone heard that story elsewhere or was that just some glorious nonsense?
   53. ursus arctos Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:07 PM (#3476784)
That seems to be the case.

It also looks as if you are out of luck if your last name happens to be the same as a current player who is playing for a different team.

I bet the Korean League doesn't have that same restriction.
   54. SoSH U at work Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:11 PM (#3476787)
"When his parents had him, all the other babies in the hospital were named Ramon. So they named him Nomar. (long pause) Which is Ramon backwards."


His father is Ramon.
   55. tl; dr (Voxter) Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:12 PM (#3476788)
Nomar's father's name is Ramon. I think that's its genesis.
   56. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:12 PM (#3476789)

Really? The other one's an idiot, but hasn't Haim been on the verge of an overdose death for going on 15 years now?


They both have been on that verge.


Has anyone heard that story elsewhere or was that just some glorious nonsense?


I thought it was to honor his dad, who is named Ramon.
   57. gef the talking mongoose Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:15 PM (#3476795)
Nomar's father's name is Ramon. I think that's its genesis.


That, & the apparent fact that his parents are imbeciles.

My father's name was Billy, but somehow it didn't occur to him & my mother to name me Yllib.
   58. Benji Gil Gamesh is not being paid to be that guy Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:16 PM (#3476796)
Lots of warm feelings on both sides on public display.


The reception Nomar got from the Fenway crowd last year when he finally made his return was 18 kinds of awesome.

(Granted I am a complete sucker for that kind of stuff, but still.)
   59. Maury Brown Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:23 PM (#3476800)
Didn't Fisk do it with the Red Sox so they could retire his number?
Yes, but anyone thinking the Red Sox will be retiring #5... not unless the Red Sox change the criteria:

The following is from the 2010 Red Sox Media Guide:

The Red Sox’ policy on retiring uniform numbers is based on the following criteria:
- Election to the National Baseball Hall of Fame
- At least 10 years played with the Red Sox
- Finish his career with the club
   60. Mr. J. Penny Smoltzuzaka Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:24 PM (#3476801)
Which makes me wonder - how many ten to twelve year old boys in New England are named "Nomar"? I doubt very many boys, but probably there's a few middle-aged dogs who are.

And best of luck to the original Nomar in his new job as media member... and thanks for the contributions towards the 2004 championship.
   61. Jon T. Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:27 PM (#3476803)
Maury,

they just retired Johnny Pesky's #, so that doesn't appear to be too strict a policy.
   62. BourbonSamurai is not Fausto Carmona Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:29 PM (#3476806)
I thought it was probably nonsense, but enjoyed the story nonetheless.
   63. Jay Seaver Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:42 PM (#3476818)
They also floated questions in a few meet & greets with the fans about retiring Conigliaro's. If you're going to break the policy for anyone, though, it's Pesky.
   64. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: March 10, 2010 at 07:56 PM (#3476827)
They just gave out Nomar's number to Baldelli last year. They're not going to retire his number.
   65. DCW3 Posted: March 10, 2010 at 08:44 PM (#3476869)
I would've thought these one-day contracts would have come to an end after Troy Percival signed one to retire as a member of the Angels--then subsequently came back and pitched for three more seasons.
   66. Lars6788 Posted: March 10, 2010 at 09:09 PM (#3476888)
J.T. Snow signed one of these deals.
Mike Lieberthal did too.
   67. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki Posted: March 10, 2010 at 11:38 PM (#3477051)
What were some of the good articles written at the time of why it was a good move to trade Nomar??
   68. John DiFool2 Posted: March 11, 2010 at 01:30 AM (#3477105)
So did Roberto Duran name his kid Nomas? [Daughter probably was named Rio...]

The only bittersweet thing about 2004 was that Nomar, whom I had always envisioned being a key component of any Sox championship, having to watch his former team win it all from a remote location.
   69. willcarrollsux Posted: March 11, 2010 at 01:38 AM (#3477110)
Wait a minute here, you're telling me that if I want to get an Ike Benners shirt, it can't be a Wilmington Quicksteps shirt?

It has to be a Brooklyn Atlantics shirt?

NO DEAL.
   70. tl; dr (Voxter) Posted: March 11, 2010 at 02:13 AM (#3477128)
I doubt very many boys, but probably there's a few middle-aged dogs who are.


In 1988 my family got a dog. We named him Kirk. I give you three guesses as to which team my father and two of my brothers follow.
   71. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 11, 2010 at 02:47 AM (#3477140)
Nomar is exactly one day older than I am. So I guess my chance at a baseball career is officially over.

Don't give up! You've still got one more day to sign a contract with the Red Sox and then retire.

I think this would be fantastic, actually. At least as an Onion headline: "Gay guy in cut-offs riding a stegosaurus signs one-day contract with Red Sox; retires"
   72. OCD SS Posted: March 11, 2010 at 03:15 AM (#3477150)
Yes, but anyone thinking the Red Sox will be retiring #5... not unless the Red Sox change the criteria:


The Sox issued Rocco Baldelli #5 last season. If they're going to retire a number, don't they generally keep it off limits to current players?

My handle comes from Nomar, so even though it was time for him to go in '04, I'm happy things worked out this way in the end.
   73. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: March 11, 2010 at 03:32 AM (#3477154)
Nomar's one-day contract is a makegood for July 1, 2004.
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