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ESPN: Kershaw will get to spread his wings

GLENDALE, Ariz.—Dodgers left-hander Clayton Kershaw, who is about to start his third major league season, won’t need to be kept on as tight a leash in terms of his workload as he has been in the past, Dodgers manager Joe Torre said after the team’s first full-squad workout of spring training Friday—and after Kershaw threw live batting practice for the first time since reporting to camp more than a week ago.

Kershaw made 30 starts last year, his first full season in the majors, but threw only 171 innings, an average of less than six per start. Torre blamed it largely on Kershaw’s tendency to throw too many pitches in the early innings, but it also was due in part to the organization’s reluctance to allow its budding star to throw too many innings at such a young age.

Kershaw will turn 22 next month.

What!? They’re not turning Kershaw into a reliever? What about the JOBA rules!?

Tripon Posted: February 27, 2010 at 05:57 PM | 40 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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1. Scott Kazmir's breaking balls Posted: February 27, 2010 at 08:00 PM (#3469422)

What about the JOBA rules!?

I thought that only applied to teams east of the Mississippi.
Seriously, I'd like to see Kershaw being allowed to pitch more, providing he doesn't turn into another Kerry Woods.

2. Crispix Attacks Posted: February 27, 2010 at 10:04 PM (#3469522)

I heard Ned Coletti interviewed on the Petros and Money Show, and they asked him about the rotation.

He mentioned these pitchers, in this order:

- "Padilla, of course"
- "The two young guys, Kershaw and Billingsley"
- Kuroda
- Charlie Haeger
- then after about a minute of talking about Charlie Haeger, he mentioned Eric Stults and James McDonald and some other guy.

Hopefully Coletti's love for Charlie Haeger means we have a new knuckleball pitcher in the majors for the next 20 years.

3. puck Posted: February 27, 2010 at 10:43 PM (#3469544)

He averaged just under 100 pitches/start, 5.63IP / start. So he is going to have to improve on the high-pitch AB's.

4. Athletic Supporter leads the nation in drifters Posted: February 27, 2010 at 10:44 PM (#3469545)

I have to say, a flying Clayton Kershaw might be the only thing more terrifying than a regular Clayton Kershaw.

5. SABRJoe Posted: February 27, 2010 at 10:55 PM (#3469550)

Crispix, how you could listen to Petros and Coletti at the same time and not drive a sharp utensil into your ocular socket is beyond me.....

6. Frank McCourt's Gold Stars are in bankruptcy court Posted: February 27, 2010 at 11:00 PM (#3469551)

He averaged just under 100 pitches/start, 5.63IP / start. So he is going to have to improve on the high-pitch AB's.

Kershaw seemed very adept at getting ahead of batters, but struggled to put them away. Better that than falling behind 2-0 or 3-0 and then scrambling to avoid disaster.

7. Tripon Posted: February 27, 2010 at 11:49 PM (#3469585)

There's talk of Kershaw getting the opening day start.

8. Accent Shallow Posted: February 28, 2010 at 12:12 AM (#3469589)

I have to say, a flying Clayton Kershaw might be the only thing more terrifying than a regular Clayton Kershaw.

A winged minotaur? Man, Daedalus is ######.

9. Downtown Bookie

Posted: February 28, 2010 at 01:06 AM (#3469606)

Wouldn't the headline work better if Kershaw pitched for the other LA team?

DB

10. Jick Posted: February 28, 2010 at 01:51 AM (#3469621)

Crispix, how you could listen to Petros and Coletti at the same time and not drive a sharp utensil into your ocular socket is beyond me.....

Wouldn't directing said utensil toward the ear be more effective in such a situation?

11. Tripon Posted: February 28, 2010 at 01:55 AM (#3469622)

Matt Money Smith is a good guy.

12. SABRJoe Posted: February 28, 2010 at 02:41 AM (#3469625)

Good point, Jick. I just figured through the eye would be easier to pierce the brain...

And yeah, Money is a good guy.

13. SlappyMcGroundout Posted: February 28, 2010 at 03:27 AM (#3469636)

There is no other LA team. That is all.

14. Harold Posted: February 28, 2010 at 03:30 AM (#3469638)

There is no other LA team. That is all.

The Dodgers have completely lost LA to the Angels?

15. akrasian Posted: February 28, 2010 at 03:33 AM (#3469641)

Except for interleague against the Dodgers - with the Dodgers as the home team - the Angels have not played in LA in over 40 years. In what sense are they an LA team? Heck, they are more of a NY team in terms of where they've actually played.

16. Tripon Posted: February 28, 2010 at 03:36 AM (#3469644)

Anaheim is only 30 miles away from the boarders of the city of Los Angeles, and only 20 miles away from Los Angeles county.

17. SlappyMcGroundout Posted: February 28, 2010 at 03:43 AM (#3469647)

Its the "of Anaheim" that bugs me. Could you imagine the Jets being called the New York Jets of Newark. Its ridicules.

18. akrasian Posted: February 28, 2010 at 03:50 AM (#3469652)

Anaheim is only 30 miles away from the boarders of the city of Los Angeles, and only 20 miles away from Los Angeles county.

Yep, outside of both the city and the county. And deliberately isolated themselves from calling themselves from Los Angeles for decades. And then decided to change for marketing reasons, even though no actual facts of their location had changed.

When I was growing up in LA County, after the Angels had moved to Anaheim, no locals called Anaheim LA. At most people might have called all of SoCal LA for outsiders. But it was considered laughable for locals to call it that among locals. The Phoenician Moreno would like that to change for marketing reasons, but I see no reason to lie for his sake.

19. Tripon Posted: February 28, 2010 at 03:52 AM (#3469653)

Well, it was part of the contract the Angels signed to get the city of Anaheim to refurbish Angels stadium. I agree its dumb though. One thing I don't get is why so many cities don't try to get a small stake in the team itself when the give out these generous stadium deals to at least force the team to jump though some more hoops if they want to relocate to another city afterward.

20. Tripon Posted: February 28, 2010 at 03:55 AM (#3469656)

When I was growing up in LA County, after the Angels had moved to Anaheim, no locals called Anaheim LA. At most people might have called all of SoCal LA for outsiders. But it was considered laughable for locals to call it that among locals. The Phoenician Moreno would like that to change for marketing reasons, but I see no reason to lie for his sake.

Yeah, people in Orange County took a certain amount of pride in being people who were not living in L.A. Although, I do think that's changing over the years I've been here in Irvine. Its probably a coincidence, but you could argue that the Angels name change has a small role in that.

21. Harold Posted: February 28, 2010 at 04:05 AM (#3469660)

Yep, [the Angels reside] outside of both the city and the county. And deliberately isolated themselves from calling themselves from Los Angeles for decades. And then decided to change for marketing reasons, even though no actual facts of their location had changed.

Sure. "They" (the Angels) don't represent one person or one ownership group, so there's nothing inconsistent between one ownership group marketing themselves as the Orange County team, and another trying to market them as an LA team. OC is in the LA media market, after all.

22. Downtown Bookie

Posted: February 28, 2010 at 04:06 AM (#3469661)

Personally, I thought "The O.C. (Orange County) Angels" would have been a pretty cool way to go; but that's just me.

DB

23. Harold Posted: February 28, 2010 at 04:18 AM (#3469667)

DB: sure, it might've been. The OC is a big enough market that perhaps a team could do really well by trying to make themselves THE team for that market.

However, a lot of people who live in the OC consider themselves part of the LA market, and they root for LA teams (Lakers, USC football, etc). I don't doubt that the Angels made the right move by going after LA.

24. Francoeur Sans Gages (AlouGoodbye) Posted: February 28, 2010 at 04:23 AM (#3469670)

Anaheim is only 30 miles away from the boarders of the city of Los Angeles, and only 20 miles away from Los Angeles county.

And Vancouver is only 30 miles away from the US border, but I do not think the Canucks will be renaming themselves the Vancouver Yankees any time soon.

25. SlappyMcGroundout Posted: February 28, 2010 at 04:26 AM (#3469671)

I don't know one person in OC who is happy about the name change. Every mayor in OC voted against the name change, and the county lost 7 million dollars in court trying to fight it.

26. SlappyMcGroundout Posted: February 28, 2010 at 04:29 AM (#3469673)

The only good thing that came out of this mess is that the Long Beach Armada renamed themselves the Long Beach Armada of Los Angeles of California of the United States of North America Including Barrow, Alaska

27. Tripon Posted: February 28, 2010 at 04:55 AM (#3469686)

I looked up home games for the Long Beach Armada and was disappointed to learn that they don't play in Long Beach until June. I want to see some cheap Indy baseball with old washed up major leagues players. Jose Lima needs to pitch again!

28. Bitter Calculus Instructor Posted: February 28, 2010 at 05:05 AM (#3469690)

This makes me nervous because last year Torre rode Billingsley into the ground early in the season. He was exhausted by mid-June.

29. Tripon Posted: February 28, 2010 at 05:20 AM (#3469695)

Another Kershaw article.
Dodgers' Clayton Kershaw keeps the faith

"The thing I found about L.A. is that you can make it as crazy as you want to or you can make it as tranquil as you want to," he said. "You just have to find that balance that works for you. I go to the field, do my work, go home and hang out. I'm not hitting up the night life too much out there."

Kershaw said he doesn't pretend to know what's right for everyone and that he's still learning.

"Some things in the Bible you can take literally and other things you kind of have to interpret for yourself," Kershaw said. "That's why there are Christians that have different understanding of the Bible. You have to live your life based on what you think is the best interpretation of it."

30. tl; dr (Voxter)

Posted: February 28, 2010 at 05:22 AM (#3469696)

Its ridicules.

I just wanted to note how much I enjoyed this little piece of typographic mayhem.

31. Harold Posted: February 28, 2010 at 05:38 AM (#3469700)

I don't know one person in OC who is happy about the name change. Every mayor in OC voted against the name change, and the county lost 7 million dollars in court trying to fight it.

Well, that reflects pretty poorly on the OC mayors, not the Angels.

32. Harold Posted: February 28, 2010 at 05:43 AM (#3469701)

I don't know one person in OC who is happy about the name change.

And, really?! It was like seven years ago! I understand that people who felt loyalty to Anaheim or the OC would've been unhappy with Moreno's LA land-grab. That said, have the Angels actually lost any fans? Are there Angels fans here who gave up on the team because the team went after the LA market?

Personally, I think it'd be cool to have an OC team. But realistically, LA is a huge market, and the Angels should chase it, especially given the Dodgers' recent mis-steps.

33. Harold Posted: February 28, 2010 at 05:46 AM (#3469703)

And Vancouver is only 30 miles away from the US border, but I do not think the Canucks will be renaming themselves the Vancouver Yankees any time soon.

Right, because the only factor that matters is the "30 miles", and every comparison that also has a 30-mile difference is totally applicable.

34. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: February 28, 2010 at 06:03 AM (#3469704)

As someone who actually LIVES in LOS ANGELES ... #### Arte Moreno AND the ANAHEIM ANGELS.

Seriously, they'll be the "Los Angeles" Angels of Anaheim when I don't have to leave work at noon to make it to a home game ...

35. Harold Posted: February 28, 2010 at 06:28 AM (#3469709)

Seriously, they'll be the "Los Angeles" Angels of Anaheim when I don't have to leave work at noon to make it to a home game ...

Right. Because the traffic in LA/OC only makes it difficult to get to Angels' games, and not Dodgers' games. Dodger Stadium is packed for the first inning every night, right? And the Angels can't draw for ####, right?

You don't have to like the Angels, but the truth is that the OC and LA are one media market, and good on Arte Moreno for going after LA.

36. tl; dr (Voxter)

Posted: February 28, 2010 at 06:58 AM (#3469714)

"Anaheim Angels" was always, if you'll pardon the pun, a Mickey Mouse name for a baseball team. I found it loathesome when I lived in the area, and the world would be a better place if they were just allowed to call themselves the Los Angeles Angels, and get reference to that garbagey suburb out of their name.

37. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: February 28, 2010 at 07:46 AM (#3469717)

Right. Because the traffic in LA/OC only makes it difficult to get to Angels' games, and not Dodgers' games. Dodger Stadium is packed for the first inning every night, right? And the Angels can't draw for ####, right?

Uh, no.

LA traffic IS Hell.

LA > OC Traffic in such a way that TRIPS GODWIN'S LAW.

If *you* think LA and OC are the same market ... well, nice to meet you, you're new around here, aren't you???

38. Crispix Attacks Posted: February 28, 2010 at 07:48 AM (#3469718)

Oh, I saw that there were 37 posts, and hoped this would be BTF's long-awaited Petros and Money Show thread. Some other day.

39. Perros Posted: February 28, 2010 at 12:45 PM (#3469743)

"Some things in the Bible you can take literally and other things you kind of have to interpret for yourself," Kershaw said. "That's why there are Christians that have different understanding of the Bible. You have to live your life based on what you think is the best interpretation of it."

God, one full season in El-lay and he's already been corrupted.

40. akrasian Posted: February 28, 2010 at 01:10 PM (#3469746)

The only good thing that came out of this mess is that the Long Beach Armada renamed themselves the Long Beach Armada of Los Angeles of California of the United States of North America Including Barrow, Alaska

Well, I'm glad that Barrow, Alaska finally has a team. They've deserved one for a while.

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