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While dislocating both knee caps.
Well, then, you ain't like everybody else.
My second reaction was...."oh right...that's not that impressive"
So does HIMYM for that matter.
Two and a Half Men is the worst show on television.
I have a bone to pick with laugh tracks. I mean, if it's actually funny, I'll laugh. Those shows are rarely funny.
I'm not really sure that Nick Swisher did much of anything on this episode; the stunt guest who "shined" was Jim Nantz.
In their primes, each of these shows was very, very good. I thought Two and a Half Men was dreck until I actually, you know, watched an episode. And I just don't believe anybody else who has actually watched it could think that it was anything close to the worst show on TV. At worst, it's a competent sitcom.
Laugh tracks are almost instant death for a show as far as I'm concerned. The canned laughter just bores into my skull.
A live audience is fine, even if they find more stuff funny than I do.
In their primes, each of these shows was very, very good. I thought Two and a Half Men was dreck until I actually, you know, watched an episode. And I just don't believe anybody else who has actually watched it could think that it was anything close to the worst show on TV. At worst, it's a competent sitcom.
Perhaps it can be the defensive Rogers Hornsby of sitcoms then. Out of all the sitcoms that last more than a season or two it is probably the worst sitcom I have seen. Usually sitcoms that are this bad don't last a season and even a bunch of sitcoms that are better don't last a season. The jokes are stale, the acting is bad (I'm convinced Charlie Sheen cannot do the small screen*), pretty much everything about this sitcom was ripped straight from the 80's. It is like watching Growing Pains with guest star Sam Malone.
*I sometimes wonder why Charlie Sheen wasn't bigger movie star than he was and the easy answer is drugs but I think the real answer after watching him in a couple of sitcoms is that he simply cannot act.
It's a competent sitcom that has lasted for something like a decade despite starring an incredibly unlikeable (and creepy) actor.
Like hookers.
So you're saying you're not a fan of the Mighty Duck movies?
I don't get this at all. There's never any lesson. Many of the jokes push the edge of what's appropriate. There's a pretty steady supply of T&A.
I watched the first few episodes of the in-between that Tim Goodman recommended last week. Lousy.
I'm actually quite glad that I do like these comedies because the active drama's are quite poor only Men of a Certain Age seems intriguing. Ms. High Standards likes the Deep End and the Human Target, HT I'm still undecided on. Of the shows that just wrapped only Mad Man and Sons of Anarchy are solid.
The narrative on TV just isn't up to what we have seen over the earlier part of the decade.
Laugh track must be good for something, I think it was the main character in "Everybody Loves Raymond". That was most awful successful sitcom ever. I mean, how many times can you watch Ray Romano make a joke and stand there grinning while he basks in the over-the-top laughtrack for about 10 seconds?
I have caught two episodes of Two and Half Men and I really don't get why its so popular. I find it awful. And I hate their promos (which run endlessly during sports). I don't understand how its not okay for an adult cop procedural to drop an f-bomb from time to time, but its okay for a show about a male whore to run ads during daytime programming that children watch showing how he sleeps around.
I've had three people recommend "Big Bang Theory" to me, and while I think its perfectly competent, I can't really muster the energy to watch it anymore.
I take it you never had the misfortune of clicking on "Becker"?
I'm not a huge sitcom fan these days, but we get sucked in to the CBS block most Mondays. "Two and a Half Men" is thoroughly pedestrian and utterly formulaic, but the one thing that keeps it above the "Becker" or "According to Jim" level of muck is that the kid is pretty good at playing a kid.
The point above about laugh tracks is well-taken. Plugging a laugh track into "HIMYM" or "Big Bang Theory" seems unnecessary (but conventional). "Two and a Half Men" feels like it should have one.
2.5 men is bad, not awful. HIMYM is pretty good. Big Bang Theory happens to parallel the life (setup-wise) of this girl I have an enormous crush on, so it gets points from me for that.
It doesn't feel like it should have one. It feels like it desperately needs one, so people call tell when a joke has occurred.
Wrong! The correct answer is "According to Jim."
I can only assume y'all are too young to remember the '80s. The worst successful sitcoms of all time were Full House and the one with Urkel, whose name is thankfully escaping me at the moment.
I've never seen Big Bang Theory. The commercials are enough to drive anyone away.
I agree with this statement.
Family Matters.
Red Dawn
Lucas
Platoon
Wall Street
Young Guns
Eight Men Out
Major League
Tom Cruise 1981-1989
Taps
Outsiders
Risky Business
Top Gun
Color of Money
Rain Man
Born on the 4th of July
After 1989 Charlie Sheen has basically only the Three Musketeers amount to anything and really devolves into movies that really are more like straight to video releases than anything else. Meanwhile Tom Cruise does A Few Good Men, The Firm, Interview with the Vampire, Mission Impossible, Jerry Maguire, Minority Report, Collateral, The Last Samurai, War of the Worlds, and Valkyrie to name some of the more succesful ones (and of course MI sequels).
Coming up Sheen has the action flicks, the dramas, and the comedies and the people like all of them but then poof nothing. Meanwhile Tom Crusie has the dramas and one action flick and poof Tom Cruise becomes the summer blockbuster guy.
Family Matters. And while both shows were born in the late 1980s, more of their runs were in the 1990s. I was fortunate enough to miss these shows during their first go-arounds, but they've been reborn on Nick and ABC Family for my kids to belatedly latch onto and retroactively torment me.
"Family Matters."
Originally came on when I was 15 or 16. In my experience, the number one motivator to sustain a good social life at age 15 or 16 was so that you had no reason to stay home watching "Family Matters." Fear is a great motivator of the young.
You've got the name right. The strangest part of that show (apart from it lasting for longer than a single episode) was that they chose the actress Faith Ford to play the character called Hope.
Wow, that's really harsh.
I don't profess to have good taste though. I find cookie cutter sitcoms to be a decent distraction most of the time. The formulaic plots keep me in a nice, comfortable zone. And for Becker, I found most of the episodes to be above replacement level in that category.
The roughest sitcoms for me to watch are the ones that try to take themselves seriously too often. I don't derive my morals from television and movies and I don't like it when a show tries to preach. Most characters on most standard sitcoms are little more than stereotypes and that's fine. That's where low level comedy lives. Trying to put those characters in a dramatic, serious situations is just a horrible idea because it comes off too contrived.
This is just my opinion, of course, coming from the guy who's written a near complete screenplay where for 90 minutes the only real joke is that velociraptors are taking over the world, pretending to be human and for some reason, no one can tell.
My memory of Becker is that it didn't last long on the network and went to the superstations. Was it actually on prime time for many seasons or was it simply good enough for late night filler on the superstations? Because the only place I ever ran into Becker was at 2 in the morning on UPN or some such channel.
At least Full House had Ramos's hot girlfriend who I believe was in their Hawaii special in a bathing suit. Other than that the whole TGIF lineup sucked.
From the early 2000s, created by Bud Selig? Yeah, I remember that one.
This is just wrong. It was a hugely successful show. It won multiple Emmys. It's very respected in the industry. I know we're supposed look down upon pop culture and awards and insiders and go with the default assumption that if too many people like something that it must be crap, but every so often, the masses get something right. Everybody Loves Raymond was a very well crafted family sitcom. It was usually very funny. The acting (especially the supporting characters) was generally outstanding. I get that most of the people here are not in its target demographic, but that doesn't make it a bad show.
36: I'm sure I've been "coked" by now, but "Becker" somehow lasted 6 seasons!
The most underrated sitcom of all-time: Newsradio
which made him perfect for repo man.
night court. nuff said.
It ran for six seasons, all on CBS. So you were close.
Wow. It's not very often that I've encountered someone who is so obviously wrong. Night Court, while not exactly high art, was an extremely entertaining show.
No, that's Bakersfield, P.D., though I suppose underwatched is a better description.
I strongly agree with both parts of this.
Now, I haven't seen it since, I guess, middle school, but I'm pretty sure it has passed the test of time with flying colors.
i liked some of it. the supporting cast was awesome. the mother was so eerily like my mom that it made me uncomfortable.
Provided you never watch an episode again, you can keep on believing what you've written.
I'm comfortable with that.
I always think of Two and a Half Men as a replacement level sitcom. It doesn't really offend me in any way, so it's perfectly fine to put on in the background if I'm on the laptop and want the occasional mildly funny one-liner.
HIMYM is a great serial sitcom. It's off its peak, but still consistently entertaining. I'm glad that they're likely pulling the plug after this season though.
The Big Bang Theory is pretty funny and a good episodic sitcom. So the conceit is lower, but from time to time has better laugh performance than HIMYM.
well, we're just pontificating on a bulletin board, so whatever. harry anderson's smug shtick was unbearable after about one show, john larroquette was one-dimensional and overrated, the bailiff character was beyond inane, and it got preachy too often and the writing was ridiculously unfunny. it is a perfect example of the junk that was on in the 80s that people have nostalgia for but would cringe if they were watching it now.
No show featuring Markie Post can be all bad.
You should go upstairs and apologize to her.
Curmudgeon that I've become, I've grown to despise TV in general & sitcoms in particular & at this late date can barely comprehend how anyone who even pretends to have a brain could ever watch anything but movies*, but ... yeah. Bakersfield, P.D. was pretty damned good.
*No doubt this is all an example of sour grapes stemming from my not having had cable in about a half-decade now, of course.
This is a DiPernian statement. Horrible, painful show.
I would watch this.
Seconded
If I loved Arrested Devlopment, would I like Modern Family? I tried Community, but thought the main character was awful and just couldn't get into it.
Right now I'll watch 30 Rock, Parks and Rec, Office, and It's Always Sunny. The latter two are going down in quality (Office for the last couple seasons), but are still pretty funny.
I just got into Parks and Rec a couple weeks ago, and I think Ron Swanson may be my favorite character ever.
What the hell, I don't even...
I won't hear a bad word against Night Court, and by extension, Markie Post, who was hot as hell by 1980s standards.
Is that true? It would make sense, given where they are with Ted, but I hadn't heard that.
So you're saying that you're not a fan of Growing Pains?
I had the same opinions as well, figured it would just be full of stereotypical humor. A few people I work with swear by the show, and have been harassing me for a solid year to watch it. I finally gave up and actually watched 2-3 re-runs this past summer. It's a pretty good show. Now there is still a lot of cookie-cutter-ness to it, but the character of Sheldon overcomes all of it.
HIMYM, is weird for me. I've watched 5-7 episodes every season since it's been on, but have never got any more interested in it than that. I don't' DVR it, and I never remember when it's on. Yet when I find it on, and can't find anything else to watch, I usually "settle" on it and enjoy it (been that way for years).
IMO, the best sitcom on prime time currently (now that Earl is done, and the Office is way past done), is probably Community.
You know what? Even that qualifier is kind of pissing me off.
Grrrrr.
That's more of an inference than anything, given that they have enough episodes to go into syndication, and the plot seems to be working its way toward it's natural conclusion.
I'll be disappointed if they try to stretch for another season.
Based upon roughly ten seconds of review, I'd guess that the best sitcom ever has to be The Simpsons.
Everyone, I mean EVERYONE I know tells me this show is great. I watched an episode, thought it absolutely sucked. I said to myself, no, it must have been a bad episode, that many people cannot be wrong. I watched another episode, that many people are in fact wrong. The show is not even remotely amusing. I realize I'm probably a bad person with no taste but I don't see what makes this show so popular.
And I'm with Ryan, I enjoyed Night Court quite a bit.
that would be a long trip, smart guy.
How I Met Your Mother
Parks and Recreation
The Big Bang Theory
The Office
30 Rock
Active sitcoms I watch on peak form:
The Office
How I Met Your Mother
30 Rock
Parks and Recreation
The Big Bang Theory
You're wrong!
Then you're likely to be very disappointed. "HIMYM," which has picked up ratings steam this season, was renewed for a sixth season. Plus, the creators entered into a development deal with the studio in which they'll be executive producers of a new show created by two former "HIMYM" writers -- and apparently paves the way for seasons seven and eight, if they want.
EDIT: It looks like Declino follows the news more closely than I do.
Did you ever notice Lily from HIMYM and Willow from Buffy have self-righteous streaks? Is this typecasting or something in Alyson Hannigan's personality?
The late Everybody Hates Chris was pretty funny.
I've watched the show off and on from the beginning. Is it suppose to be obvious who the mother is? It isn't Robin (I believe I've seen one of the story telling, where Saget calls her Aunt Robin). Is it one of Teds old GFs from a past episode, or a soon to be or newly introduced character?
There was an episode a few weeks ago that basically spelled out who she was, but she still hasn't been seen. She's not a prior character.
Well, it's just timelining. I'm 100% confident that if Markie Post was able to avail herself of modern fashion, fitness, training, diet, hair, makeup and cosmetic surgery, she'd be perfectly capable of competing with 2000-era hotties. Even saddled by the horrors of 1980s fashion, she was pretty awesome.
Agreed. I hurt myself laughing at the intervention episode.
Me too, holy crap, it was classic. I wanted to drink wine in a can for a week afterwards. "Look at me, I'm comfortable, I'm gesturing."
Congratulations, you are now a producer. The movie is called, by the way "Return to the Escape from Raptor Island II: The Secret of the Ooze".
There is, of course, no mention of ooze in the movie.
Does that upgrade come complete with tattoos?
Maybe it's a Larroquette thing. His first season in that show set in the bus station was pretty good. Then they made it lighter and it sucked.
I just don't get Always Sunny. I think that's a rather personal show, more than many.
Agreed for the most part with people above on Raymond. I used to watch it, but eventually stopped because I hated Raymond and Deborah's hateful relationship so much. The rest of the supporting cast is FANtastic though - especially his brother Robert.
And I agree with Mister High Standards about "Modern Family" and "Community" -- both have really strong ensembles. Plus you get to stare at Sofia Vergara and Alison Brie, respectively.
*Although I think season 2 was really good, and "Slap Bet" is one of the funniest half-hours of television I've ever seen.
The big reveal at the end of Slap Bet was the greatest moment in TV sitcom history.
I think you may be right, but it still doesn't come close to seasons 1-3.
Same for The Office, IMO. I like this season more than last (I hated the Michael Scott Paper Company arc), but it's still a vastly inferior show to what it once was.
I still enjoy NBC's Thursday lineup. I know many think that the Office is declining, and that's probably true, but I still find it amusing. Parks and Recreation does seem to be sharper now though. 30 Rock is what it is.
I'm really not that picky though. And I don't ever give up on shows. I'm still watching Heroes for ####'s sake and that show has been an utter abortion since season one. This last season has been somewhat better though, but it suffers from god awful pacing. All the elements in the show could be compelling, but they don't know how to assemble them together properly.
Seriously. I almost posted a link to the music video here but, as funny as it is, it's funnier when you know what leads up to it.
Every character except Raymond was a despicable human being. I kept waiting for Raymond to grow a pair, divorce his wife, and move far, far away from his horrible family.
You just made my day. Bless you, sir.
I'm not sure how we're qualifying underrated sitcoms, but WKRP is Cincinnati has to be way way way up there in that department.
Considering how despicable Raymond was, that's really saying something.
Barney is great, but I can't help but think that there was probably a better Marshall storyline than Suits vs. Girls, for example.
Pretty much the only 'new' thing that they could do with the two of them is have Lily get pregnant, but they passed on that last season when Alyson Hannigan actually WAS pregnant.
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