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Tuesday, February 02, 2010

ESPN: Nick Swisher shines on “How I Met Your Mother”

Outside of the dynamite Dino & Cheryl Kartsonakis show, I rarely watch TV…was this grub any good? (hits head with studded Saget-stick)

Nick Swisher just gave us another reason to dislike the New York Yankees.

They’ll snake your girl.

That’s exactly what the Yanks outfielder will do—unwittingly, anyway—Monday night on “How I Met Your Mother.” In the episode airing on CBS, Barney’s (Neil Patrick Harris) pursuit of “the perfect week”—seven girls in seven days—is disrupted when Swisher, playing himself at a New York City bar, catches the eye of Barney’s latest prey.

...“That’s a myth,” said Swisher, who is dating Gossip Girl’s Joanna Garcia. “We’re normal, man. The only difference between us and everybody else is we work at Yankee Stadium, and our job just happens to be on TV. We put our pants on one leg at a time, too. The same rules apply to everybody.”

Does Nick Swisher ever get shot down?

“Oh, yeah. Absolutely!”

A losing record?

“No,” he laughed. “I don’t have a losing record.”

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   201. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: February 03, 2010 at 01:15 AM (#3453053)
Has anyone seen The League, about the group of bros in a fantasy football league? It's above replacement-level, I think. I hope there's a Season Two.
   202. Arnett Mead (Arjun) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 01:16 AM (#3453054)
Obviously The Wire is amazing. Especially, yes, season 4.

In terms of shows I watch actively now, there are two; "Modern Family" for comedies (it's brilliant, easy to associate with, and actually funny) and "Criminal Minds" (which is a weird addiction of mine).
   203. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 01:22 AM (#3453055)
Sitcoms I watch the second any new material becomes available to someone without a television and sometimes watch again:
Arrested Development
30 Rock
Scenes with Senor Chang in Community
Old Office


If you like these, then you should give "Modern Family" a shot.

I think Season 2 is my favorite season of The Wire. The union stuff was utterly fascinating. I'm deeply envious of anyone watching that masterpiece of a series for the first time.
   204. Lassus: Posted: February 03, 2010 at 01:23 AM (#3453056)
People hate Becker? I always thought that was a very solid show. Mainly because Ted Danson is absolutely perfect as a huge prick. If it weren't for him, yeah, I doubt the show would be worth anything. But he's All-Star caliber in that.

I found it stupid, but would keep it on when I was flipping through to stare at Jadzia. I also always had this fantasy where the blind guy would admit in the show's finale that he was faking and could always see.
   205. villageidiom Posted: February 03, 2010 at 01:35 AM (#3453060)
I think Cougar Town is pretty funny, and underrated.
I think Cougar Town is the 2010 equivalent of Veronica's Closet. It follows a show I really like; I'll only watch it if I'm too lazy to get up to find the remote; and the show is making me less lazy each week.
   206. sardonic Posted: February 03, 2010 at 01:55 AM (#3453068)
I really liked this week's HIMYM, by the way. Jim Nantz hit his cameo out of the park, and I loved a lot of the little beats, like "He needs a bro, now."
   207. mike f Posted: February 03, 2010 at 01:59 AM (#3453071)
The big reveal at the end of Slap Bet was the greatest moment in TV sitcom history.
I vote for Dick Towel.

Parks and Rec season 2 grabbed me. Especially the hunting episode. I don't really care for Rashida Jones or her boyfriend. April and Ron really are fantastic.

I still like 30 Rock, and watch the Office even though I haven't enjoyed it in years. Same thing with House. It's just a habit at this point.

I thought Season 2 of The Wire was their worst. 3 or 4 was my favorite. The Wire and AD are easily my favorite shows ever.

And I think Firefly may be the most overrated show of all time.
   208. Langer Monk Posted: February 03, 2010 at 02:00 AM (#3453073)
Strange thing to me about the prevailing opinion on the Office of a change in Jim is that, to me, in the long running story, it's the natural progression. Early on, he was in a job he pretty much hated, pined after a girl, played mean and inappropriate pranks on Dwight (although usually pretty damn funny), and admitted Dunder Mifflin wasn't a career. Now, he's got the girl, has a mortgage, soon will have a kid, and suddenly DM is a career, and he's not enjoying it. (Granted this is more than I chose to analyze a sitcom, but I've got a few minutes before Lost starts to annoy me again on a weekly basis).

You can be the class clown if you have little to lose. I've no insight on this, but it wouldn't surprise me if the writers made this change on purpose. YMMV.

Also, the only downside to watching the Wire, is that you won't ever get to see an episode for the first time again.
   209. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 02:01 AM (#3453074)
AD is definitely in my top five all-time is my favorite comedy show. Once they hit their stride--which they do toward the end of season 1, imo--it's just brilliant. It's a sitcom, yet you have to watch each episode two or three times to catch all the jokes.
   210. happysky Posted: February 03, 2010 at 02:37 AM (#3453089)
Has Anyone watched Tom cruise guest appearance in Tropic Thunder? .I thought he was amazing in it .I think he should do more comedies in future. It was one of the best guest appearance in recent times
I still don't get tom cruise hate,Many people think he can't act!!..........But come to think of it most of people hate most of celebrities now days
   211. channeling my inner STEAGLES Posted: February 03, 2010 at 02:43 AM (#3453093)

Has Anyone watched Tom cruise guest appearance in Tropic Thunder? .I thought he was amazing in it .I think he should do more comedies in future. It was one of the best guest appearance in recent times
I still don't get tom cruise hate,Many people think he can't act!!..........But come to think of it most of people hate most of celebrities now days
i don't think it's so much that people think he can't act, as it is that he's kinda batshit insane.
   212. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 02:46 AM (#3453096)
Has anyone seen The League, about the group of bros in a fantasy football league? It's above replacement-level, I think. I hope there's a Season Two.

It has a lot of promise, but I don't think it lived up to my expectations. Which is not to say it didn't make me laugh quite a bit. I appreciate them trying to show they know a lot about football, but that only makes the little errors frustrating (no league would allow a Peyton Manning for Torry Holt/Fred Taylor deal). But I like the Ruxton character (and his wife is nice to look at). I hate the Taco character (what is likeable about an oblivious guy who knows nothing about sports and sleeps with every hot girl he can?) but the other three characters are likeable enough. They need to let Paul Scheer shine a bit more. I am looking forward to what they can bring in Season Two.

Has Anyone watched Tom cruise guest appearance in Tropic Thunder? .I thought he was amazing in it .I think he should do more comedies in future. It was one of the best guest appearance in recent times
I still don't get tom cruise hate,Many people think he can't act!!..........But come to think of it most of people hate most of celebrities now days


He is no Colin Farrell now that is just sad.
   213. McCoy Posted: February 03, 2010 at 02:51 AM (#3453098)
I still like 30 Rock, and watch the Office even though I haven't enjoyed it in years. Same thing with House. It's just a habit at this point.

I was thinking the same thing about House today as well. House was like the anti-Murder She Wrote formula drama/mystery. I mean it was still a formula drama/mystery but they dideverything the opposite of what all of these formula dramas do. Unfortunately just like the original formula dramas/mysteries their setup has gone stale. They tried to introduce some other arcs but I think they really haven't worked.
   214. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 02:54 AM (#3453099)
I heard that House is the most watched show on planet Earth which I found just shocking. It seems like a show I would really enjoy, but I have never even watched five minutes of it.
   215. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 03:07 AM (#3453106)
I think Season 2 is my favorite season of The Wire. The union stuff was utterly fascinating. I'm deeply envious of anyone watching that masterpiece of a series for the first time.

I just got my significant other to start watching The Wire a few weeks ago. We started with Season 2 since she loves all the union/docks stuff.

I thought Season 2 of The Wire was their worst. 3 or 4 was my favorite. The Wire and AD are easily my favorite shows ever.

I think 1 and 4 are the best, followed by 2 and then 3. 3 was very engrossing but I thought it tried to do too much and simply didn't find it realistic or believable.

5 is easily the worst.
   216. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: February 03, 2010 at 03:49 AM (#3453115)
Obviously, I only mentioned my Wire newness to gloat. If you hadn't seen it - do.
It took me awhile to convince my spouse to give it a shot (she did for ep. 8), but she's already caught up.

House: It's fine for what it is, I guess. Hugh Laurie is a talented guy, but it's formulaic...

Heh - tina.

Office/208: I'm positive. Frankly, I'd've thought this would be the CW - apparently, it's not.
   217. Eric J is Financed by a Rich Grandpa Posted: February 03, 2010 at 03:52 AM (#3453116)
Also, the only downside to watching the Wire, is that you won't ever get to see an episode for the first time again.

This. It's still amazing on re-watching, of course, but there are a lot of scenes that just aren't the same the second time through.
   218. Russlan will never be fond of Jason Bay Posted: February 03, 2010 at 04:00 AM (#3453123)
I actually enjoyed watching The Wire the second time as much as I did the first time. There are some things that aren't as good as the first time but you pick up on things that you missed on the first time.
   219. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: February 03, 2010 at 04:03 AM (#3453124)
Me too (for what I've seen twice thus far). So far, the series has been short on surprises, but featured great acting and tight structure - that stuff holds up.
   220. Langer Monk Posted: February 03, 2010 at 04:31 AM (#3453142)
Office/208: I'm positive. Frankly, I'd've thought this would be the CW - apparently, it's not.


Well, at least I'm not alone.

Also, for what it's worth, Wallace is a main piece of the most recent season of Friday Night Lights. The one that showing on DirecTV 101 now and will be on NBC in a couple months.
   221. Eraser-X is emphatically dominating teh site!!! Posted: February 03, 2010 at 04:52 AM (#3453145)
It has a lot of promise, but I don't think it lived up to my expectations. Which is not to say it didn't make me laugh quite a bit. I appreciate them trying to show they know a lot about football, but that only makes the little errors frustrating (no league would allow a Peyton Manning for Torry Holt/Fred Taylor deal). But I like the Ruxton character (and his wife is nice to look at). I hate the Taco character (what is likeable about an oblivious guy who knows nothing about sports and sleeps with every hot girl he can?) but the other three characters are likeable enough. They need to let Paul Scheer shine a bit more. I am looking forward to what they can bring in Season Two.


My wife clued me in to Jon Lajoie and we found the series that way. It really changes the dynamic because if you understand Lajoie's approach, and you realize that the Taco character is not poorly written, it's just Lajoie's uncomfortably over-the-top satire, that character's time leapfrogs to be the best time of the show.

I know that even from that perspective, a lot of people still wouldn't like it, and that's fine. I think a good litmus test is if you find Juggalo videos entertaining, you'll probably love Lajoie.

We saw him live and because you get the homoerotic frat boy dynamic and he just seems more weirded out by it, it becomes this bizarre interactive art piece.
   222. Eddo Posted: February 03, 2010 at 05:51 AM (#3453161)
I heard that House is the most watched show on planet Earth which I found just shocking. It seems like a show I would really enjoy, but I have never even watched five minutes of it.


Commercials ruin House for me. My old roommate and his girlfriend used to watch it on DVD, and I was fairly into it, watching episodes on my own to catch up. However, when I try to watch in on TV (new or reruns), I can't make it past a commercial.

It's a decent show, and Hugh Laurie is excellent, but for whatever reason, it doesn't hold my interest well enough for me to avoid being tempted to stray during commercial breaks.
   223. McCoy Posted: February 03, 2010 at 06:11 AM (#3453172)
Just download it the next day. No commercials that way.
   224. RollingWave Posted: February 03, 2010 at 07:26 AM (#3453183)
So over the winter, the two most popular thread involving Yankees turned into talks on...

A. WW2

B. Sitcom
   225. Lassus: Posted: February 03, 2010 at 10:02 AM (#3453198)
5 is easily the worst.

The worst episode of The Wire is still an easy 100 times better than House.
   226. Eddo Posted: February 03, 2010 at 02:41 PM (#3453256)
Just download it the next day. No commercials that way.


That's my point, though. As soon as I have to put in any more effort than "put in DVD, sit on couch", House loses me as a viewer.
   227. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 02:46 PM (#3453264)

My wife clued me in to Jon Lajoie and we found the series that way.


Holy crap. I've watched his internet stuff and cracked up and I had no idea that was the same guy as Taco. His songs on the internet are hilarious, yet every time he has sang a song on the show, I've cringed at how awful they are.
   228. bunyon Posted: February 03, 2010 at 03:17 PM (#3453285)
Commercials ruin House for me. My old roommate and his girlfriend used to watch it on DVD, and I was fairly into it, watching episodes on my own to catch up. However, when I try to watch in on TV (new or reruns), I can't make it past a commercial.

Commercials ruin just about anything for me. I haven't been able to watch a live TV show since I started routinely watching them on DVD (a friend gave me the Firefly set, which I watched in about a day and a half - suffice to say I disagree with mike f above, by YMMV). It was such a revelation to watch a show without the interruption, or the week off. Not having a Nielsen box, I pretty much just wait until I can watch a show in succession without interruption, the way God intended.
   229. Every Inge Counts Posted: February 03, 2010 at 03:25 PM (#3453291)
Sitcoms that I watch:
How I Met Your Mother-it has been not as sharp as seasons past, but it still is pretty funny
Big Bang Theory: Just started watching it, glad they made Sheldon the focal point of the show.
Modern Family
The Thursday Night NBC Block: This year Community and Parks and Recreations have outshined 30 Rock and The Office in terms of laugh out loud funny.
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
and yes I still watch Saturday Night Live

The Wire is manna from heaven.

My girlfriend has made me watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I think I am a handful episodes to being finished with it. It is a good show, not sure if anyone on here watched it or not.

And underrated sitcom/animated show: King of the Hill. How Family Guy gets the love it does is beyond me, while King of the Hill gets screwed by FOX over the years of its run.
   230. Joe Mauer Power Hour Posted: February 03, 2010 at 03:33 PM (#3453302)
and yes I still watch Saturday Night Live

So do I. I think the show gets a pretty bad rap. It's all about expectations. It's pretty tough to put together a 90 minute show each week that has you laughing non-stop. I thought the Jon Hamm episode this past week was terrific, particularly "Hamm and Buble".
   231. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 03:41 PM (#3453309)
The two Jon Hamm episodes are better than anything they've done in years. Which is why its so frustrating when they have such awful episodes.

Looking forward to Zach Galifinakis though.
   232. hokieneer Posted: February 03, 2010 at 03:43 PM (#3453314)
I heard that House is the most watched show on planet Earth which I found just shocking. It seems like a show I would really enjoy, but I have never even watched five minutes of it.


I've watched House pretty much weekly since the 1st season. The show have been great, even though its often predictable. I haven't been able to get into this season that much though, not sure what it is. Could be the merging of the old and new supporting casts, house being too nice to Wilson, that "thing" with Cuddy (either F*ck her or shut up), I don't know, but the story arc has not grabbed me much this year. Individual episodes are still alright to watch in isolation though: House being an ass, medical mysteries, some drama, some humor outside of House.
   233. berselius Posted: February 03, 2010 at 05:22 PM (#3453403)
My girlfriend has made me watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I think I am a handful episodes to being finished with it. It is a good show, not sure if anyone on here watched it or not.


Joss Whedon is my master now, even though Dollhouse was a big disappointment. I actually liked Angel more than Buffy, especially after is scrapped the Private-Eye-Mystery-of-the-Week theme of its first season and started doing massive story arcs instead.
   234. McCoy Posted: February 03, 2010 at 05:27 PM (#3453409)
When I was younger there was a girl I wanted to date, well, I wanted her to come over and screw around, and one of the ways to get her to come over was so that she could watch Buffy. Total Buffy freak. I always made fun of it but it was actually pretty entertaining. I always thought that Charisma Carpenter and Eliza Dushku were the two hottest girls on TV.
   235. billyshears Posted: February 03, 2010 at 05:32 PM (#3453417)
House is a good show. It's just unfortunate they've made the same show about 100 times.
   236. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: February 03, 2010 at 05:46 PM (#3453424)
My girlfriend has made me watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I think I am a handful episodes to being finished with it. It is a good show, not sure if anyone on here watched it or not.


I've only ever seen the musical episode, but I've seen that several times.
I don't even know if I want to see any others. The musical = awesome.
   237. Lassus: Posted: February 03, 2010 at 05:48 PM (#3453427)
It's just unfortunate they've made the same show about 100 times.

Vivaldi says hello.

And all roads lead to "Once More, With Feeling".
   238. JJ1986 Posted: February 03, 2010 at 05:52 PM (#3453430)
I've seen every episode of Buffy.
   239. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: February 03, 2010 at 05:56 PM (#3453432)
Buffy, as you're seeing, has a lot of fans on this board - 'cause we're on the internet.
I had no desire to watch it, but was eventually roped in - it's very good (season 1 + some tics notwithstanding). As mentioned above, if you liked Buffy, you'll probably like Angel too.
   240. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 06:00 PM (#3453434)
Sitcoms I cannot sit through an episode of:
[...]
Grey's Anatomy
[...]
That's all. I guess I don't like sitcoms.


Nothing wrong with hating Grey's Anatomy, but are you sure you know what a sitcom is?
   241. Every Inge Counts Posted: February 03, 2010 at 06:15 PM (#3453447)
Oh I have the entire series of Angel and Firefly waiting for me as well. I have seen some of Angel first season (with a guest appearance by Jeremy Renner!) and I enjoyed it. I have seen one episode of Firefly...on the fence on that one. We tried to start watching Dollhouse, but I think we both knew FOX would end up killing the series.
   242. McCoy Posted: February 03, 2010 at 06:20 PM (#3453450)
I never really liked Angel. It just didn't have the same vibe for me.
   243. Eric J is Financed by a Rich Grandpa Posted: February 03, 2010 at 06:25 PM (#3453454)
I have seen one episode of Firefly...on the fence on that one.

Which episode?
   244. Every Inge Counts Posted: February 03, 2010 at 06:27 PM (#3453457)
The pilot episode of Firefly, but I was probably in a bad mood, since she refused to watch The Wire.
   245. berselius Posted: February 03, 2010 at 06:37 PM (#3453461)
Firefly has two guest appearances by Christina Hendricks, which should be enough to cancel out any complaints people have.

The 6-episode stretch from 'safe' to 'War Stories' (episodes 5-10) was just fantastic television. Out of Gas is probably my favorite episode
   246. JJ1986 Posted: February 03, 2010 at 06:43 PM (#3453464)
The only episodes of Firefly that I don't love are the one with the dead soldier and the one with the reaver ship. Everything else is great.
   247. hokieneer Posted: February 03, 2010 at 06:52 PM (#3453467)
My girlfriend has made me watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I think I am a handful episodes to being finished with it. It is a good show, not sure if anyone on here watched it or not.

I like Buffy a lot. My roomate and I used to watch it in college on syndication. TBS would air back to back episodes in the early afternoon right when we were getting out of class. It was the perfect show to waste an afternoon watching while smoking a bowl or 2.

Over the last few years my wife almost had me convinced that the show was stupid and I only liked it becuase I was stoned and there was nothing else to do in the afternoon after class (all good points). Well it's back on TV now, on LOGO, and I've started to DVR some episodes. LOGO is just showing some arbitrary episodes now, loosely tied together with a bad weekly theme. I'm enjoying the episodes just as much now as I did 5-6 years ago, even minus the pot. Even got the wife to set in on a few; she might be placating me but I think she likes it.

I never watched Angel (not a fan of David Boreanaz), or any of Whedon other works, but I'm willing to give them a chance.
   248. Random Transaction Generator Posted: February 03, 2010 at 07:16 PM (#3453487)
How would this be filled out?

Greatest show in American network history, based on number of seasons:

1 - Firefly
2 - ?
3 - Arrested Development
4 - ?
5 - ?
6 - ?
7 - ?
8 - ?
9 - Seinfeld
10 - ?
11 to 15 - ?
16 to 20 - ?
21+ - Simpsons
   249. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 07:27 PM (#3453493)
16 to 20 - Gunsmoke...by default pretty much. I think Lassie is the only other scripted prime time show to last this long.
11 to 15 - Cheers
10 - Murphy Brown
9 - Seinfeld
8 - Newhart (slight edge over The Cosby Show)

2 - Better off Ted?
1 - Freaks and Geeks

1 episode - Poochinski
   250. tfbg9 Posted: February 03, 2010 at 07:40 PM (#3453498)
1 - Freaks and Geeks


agreed
   251. Russlan will never be fond of Jason Bay Posted: February 03, 2010 at 07:43 PM (#3453505)
11-15) Frasier.
   252. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 07:47 PM (#3453509)
5 - The Wire
   253. Esmailyn Gonzalez Sr. Posted: February 03, 2010 at 07:55 PM (#3453513)
1 - Clone High

Greatest ending to a TV show ever.
   254. Kurt Posted: February 03, 2010 at 08:05 PM (#3453525)
16 to 20 - Gunsmoke...by default pretty much. I think Lassie is the only other scripted prime time show to last this long.

Law & Order is in its 20th season, will hit 21 next year.

I might take L&O over the Simpsons for 21+, just because the Simpsons has been so bad for so long. Simposns obviously had a higher peak.
   255. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: February 03, 2010 at 08:24 PM (#3453540)
1 episode: the Terence & Phillip Show.
   256. SoSH U at work Posted: February 03, 2010 at 08:30 PM (#3453546)
7 - Homicide: Life on the Street
   257. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 08:36 PM (#3453548)
Also, 1 - Freaks and Geeks
   258. Ball Point Pen Guy (Will Young) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 08:40 PM (#3453549)
4 - Black Adder

Also, 1 - Freaks and Geeks

I sure hope The Who doesn't play the song about Mama's accordion during the Super Bowl. I might burst out loud laughing and have to explain why to my family. "Mama's got a squeezebox, Daddy plays it all night long..."

Pretty much every scene involving Mr. Weir cracks me up.
   259. Don't want the truth; just wanna see some dingers Posted: February 03, 2010 at 08:42 PM (#3453552)
I normally don't have the dedication to watch things more than once (unless it's a "Simpsons" or "Seinfeld" re-run while I'm eating dinner). Probably just my short attention span, but I'd much rather watch a movie I've never seen or move on to some other TV series.
   260. berselius Posted: February 03, 2010 at 08:53 PM (#3453558)
If we're talking arbitrary TV awards, Freaks and Geeks should also win the award for Best intro music. Great song, and it so fits with the show.
   261. berselius Posted: February 03, 2010 at 08:54 PM (#3453560)

I sure hope The Who doesn't play the song about Mama's accordion during the Super Bowl. I might burst out loud laughing and have to explain why to my family. "Mama's got a squeezebox, Daddy plays it all night long..."

Pretty much every scene involving Mr. Weir cracks me up.


I was wandering through Barnes and Noble the other day and spotted a copy of Pit in their board games section. I didn't realize it was a real game!

My favorite F+G Episode is the one where Nick runs away from home and the Weirs take him in. Probably closely followed by Kim Kelly is My Friend
   262. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 08:58 PM (#3453566)
If we're talking arbitrary TV awards, Freaks and Geeks should also win the award for Best intro music. Great song, and it so fits with the show.

Definitely. And if Lindsay Weir had existed and gone to my high school, I would've been hopelessly in love with her.
   263. Joe Mauer Power Hour Posted: February 03, 2010 at 08:59 PM (#3453568)
I normally don't have the dedication to watch things more than once (unless it's a "Simpsons" or "Seinfeld" re-run while I'm eating dinner). Probably just my short attention span, but I'd much rather watch a movie I've never seen or move on to some other TV series.

That's interesting. I chalk it up to my short attention span that I like to watch the same thing many times. It's just easier to watch an episode of 30 Rock or Seinfeld where I know the general dialogue and plot. Picking up something new takes more dedication and focus, so you're sure you're not missing anything.
   264. zenbitz Posted: February 03, 2010 at 09:13 PM (#3453572)
I never saw the Wire, but it cannot be better than Charles in Charge!
   265. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 09:26 PM (#3453577)

I never saw the Wire, but it cannot be better than Charles in Charge!


I think that goes without saying.
   266. Cowboy Popup Posted: February 03, 2010 at 09:29 PM (#3453579)
3 - Arrested Development

I may get shouted down here, but as much as I loved Arrested Development, Deadwood was better.

4 - ?

I'd like to nominate the Venture Bros. if they do end it this season.

7 - ?

Deep Space Nine.
   267. Russlan will never be fond of Jason Bay Posted: February 03, 2010 at 09:34 PM (#3453582)
7 - Homicide: Life on the Street

The seventh season of HLOTS never happened.
   268. phredbird Posted: February 03, 2010 at 09:48 PM (#3453589)
deadwood and wire -- as awesome as they were -- weren't network shows. right?

mary tyler moore show and dick van dyke show go somewhere in the top 5, as should the original bob newhart show.

all in the family, andy griffith show should be in the top 10.

seinfeld ... meh. as someone mentioned upthread, it hasn't aged well.

ugh, i know i should have a more recent show, but haven't watched a lot of network tv in recent years. cheers, maybe?
   269. Cowboy Popup Posted: February 03, 2010 at 09:50 PM (#3453591)
deadwood and wire -- as awesome as they were -- weren't network shows. right?

Oh, its just network shows? Then I have nothing to contribute. My bad.
   270. The Good Face Posted: February 03, 2010 at 09:51 PM (#3453592)
I'd like to nominate the Venture Bros. if they do end it this season.


Not sure that it qualifies as network TV, but I'd support you on it. Venture Bros. is the best thing on TV and has been for a while. Somehow an animated show about superscientists and the costumed villains that arch them has better and more believable characters than 98% of live action TV.
   271. Cowboy Popup Posted: February 03, 2010 at 09:53 PM (#3453594)
Venture Bros. is the best thing on TV and has been for a while. Somehow an animated show about superscientists and the costumed villains that arch them has better and more believable characters than 98% of live action TV.

I'm glad my wife and I aren't the only people who feel that way. I'm going to be downright melancholy when they end it. There's nothing on TV I look forward to more than a new episode of The Venture Bros.
   272. phredbird Posted: February 03, 2010 at 09:58 PM (#3453598)
what is venture bros.? is it anything like dexter's lab? i used to watch that with my son when he was little and we just cracked up over that stuff.
   273. phredbird Posted: February 03, 2010 at 09:59 PM (#3453599)
#248, i misunderstood what you are doing so apologize if i'm just muddying the waters, i thought you just were asking for a straight ranking.
   274. Random Transaction Generator Posted: February 03, 2010 at 10:01 PM (#3453600)
If we allow cable shows, then "Band of Brothers" takes the 1-season crown without any real challengers.

I wanted to avoid the plethora of recent cable masterpieces from dominating the list.
   275. Cowboy Popup Posted: February 03, 2010 at 10:07 PM (#3453603)
what is venture bros.?

Now that's a challenge. It's a mix of Johnny Quest, G.I. Joe, Scooby Doo, the concept of super heroes and villains (Marvel mostly I suppose), and a host of other pop-fantasy and sci-fi influences that results in a hilarious, character driven narrative about two brothers, their super-scientist father and their bad ass body guard. It's truly awe inspiring and I am simply not capable of doing it justice.
   276. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: February 03, 2010 at 10:08 PM (#3453606)
what is venture bros.? is it anything like dexter's lab?

They are both humourous animated shows, and they both involve super science. Other than that, they are as dissimilar as it is possible to be.
   277. NJ is feeling better Posted: February 03, 2010 at 10:10 PM (#3453609)
1 - Freaks and Geeks

Never seen this, but plan to at some point. I would nominate "Undeclared."
   278. Joe Mauer Power Hour Posted: February 03, 2010 at 10:12 PM (#3453611)
I would nominate "Undeclared."

I did not enjoy Undeclared. It's possible that it's because my college experience was much different from the show, which made the show feel like one giant stereotype of college.
   279. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 10:57 PM (#3453635)
Greatest show in American network history, based on number of seasons:


Firefly was good, but nothing beats the original series of The Prisoner.
   280. Daryn Posted: February 03, 2010 at 10:58 PM (#3453639)
I also prefer Undeclared to Freaks and Geeks and would say Undeclared should be in the running for best 1 year show ever.

I nominate Sports Night for two years.
   281. The Polish Sausage Racer Posted: February 03, 2010 at 11:07 PM (#3453643)
2 seasons should be Sledge Hammer.
   282. Biff isn't really an apt handle anymore Posted: February 03, 2010 at 11:09 PM (#3453645)
I disagree with the idea that Seinfeld hasn't aged well. I still get laughs out of the reruns whenever I turn them on.
   283. The Good Face Posted: February 03, 2010 at 11:15 PM (#3453648)
what is venture bros.?

Now that's a challenge. It's a mix of Johnny Quest, G.I. Joe, Scooby Doo, the concept of super heroes and villains (Marvel mostly I suppose), and a host of other pop-fantasy and sci-fi influences that results in a hilarious, character driven narrative about two brothers, their super-scientist father and their bad ass body guard. It's truly awe inspiring and I am simply not capable of doing it justice.


Not bad. It started as a kind of spoof of Johnny Quest, but very quickly transcended that with its incredibly deep, well developed characterization. Ostensibly the show is about the superscientist Dr. Venture, his two goofy teenage sons, and their absurdly badass bodyguard as they battle monsters-of-the-week and fend off attacks from costumed supervillains, but it's really about the characters and their (usually futile) attempts to overcome their various psychological issues.

Dr. Venture is a pill-popping neurotic who's barely above replacement level as a superscientist, is a borderline villain protagonist and has serious issues with his deceased father, a far superior superscientist. His bodyguard is conflicted about his mission and place in life, plus is halfway convinced Dr. Venture is a supervillain himself. His archenemy is a fabulously wealthy but self-loathing psychopath who claims he was raised by butterflies (even through he knows absolutely nothing about butterflies) and dresses himself and his henchmen in butterfly costumes. His kids are, well... you have to watch it.

Unlike most cartoons (or live action show for the matter), TVB rigidly adheres to continuity. Seemingly throwaway references made in the first couple seasons suddenly make sense and are developed more fully in Seasons 3 and 4. Characters change and develop in realistic ways that actually make sense, they don't suddenly become different people as the plot demands. The first three seasons are available on DVD, well worth the watching.
   284. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: February 03, 2010 at 11:59 PM (#3453659)
If you know the show, don't be drinking anything while you listen.

Dr. Girlfriend and The Monarch cover 'Fairytale of New York'

And just because it can never be said enough ...
there's NOBODY like Brock Samson.

Nobody.
   285. Cowboy Popup Posted: February 04, 2010 at 12:10 AM (#3453661)
That second Brock Samson link was awesome. I had to bookmark it.
   286. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: February 04, 2010 at 12:37 AM (#3453672)
I disagree with the idea that Seinfeld hasn't aged well. I still get laughs out of the reruns whenever I turn them on.

The early and middle episodes hold up pretty well, I think. The last couple seasons weren't that good in the first place, and the last season was particularly bad.

Once every few years I actually find a Seinfeld re-run on t.v. that I've never seen before. That's always fun.
   287. APNY Posted: February 04, 2010 at 01:34 AM (#3453694)
Venture has surpassed Home Movies as the greatest cartoon (and 2nd best show, behind The Wire) ever.
   288. McCoy Posted: February 04, 2010 at 01:40 AM (#3453697)
I fourth or fifth or whatever the nod to Venture Bros. Just a great great show. I had no idea they were planning on wrapping it up and if that is true that is a shame.
   289. PreservedFish Posted: February 04, 2010 at 01:51 AM (#3453701)
Seinfeld is aging, just the way that any observational humor ages. It is such an of-its-moment show that people at some point in the future won't understand a lot of its humor. The jokes exploit tiny unspoken wrinkles in the culture, and I think you have to be fluent in the culture to really get them all. I know Europeans that never understood the appeal.
   290. Stately, Plump Buck Mulligan Posted: February 04, 2010 at 01:56 AM (#3453703)
2 - Twin Peaks
   291. APNY Posted: February 04, 2010 at 02:04 AM (#3453705)
How many seasons was The Wonder Years?

I never see Dream On mentioned in any of the TV threads, loved that show.
   292. NJ is feeling better Posted: February 04, 2010 at 02:18 AM (#3453711)
How many seasons was The Wonder Years?

YES.
   293. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: February 04, 2010 at 02:34 AM (#3453719)
I never see Dream On mentioned in any of the TV threads, loved that show.

Me, too, but I always forget about it in these threads.

Some other underrated sitcoms in recent years: Malcolm in the Middle
Drew Carey
Fresh Prince
   294. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: February 04, 2010 at 02:35 AM (#3453722)
Venture has surpassed Home Movies as the greatest cartoon (and 2nd best show, behind The Wire) ever.

Uh, The Simpsons? I've never seen Venture but I imagine it has a loooooooooong way to go before it approaches the Simpsons.
   295. Tripon Posted: February 04, 2010 at 02:39 AM (#3453726)
The Simpsons' decline phase overtakes its Hall of Fame peak easily. The Venture Brothers started out great, and is still great. Boondocks starts in March, and if you're into mature humor, its a good watch.
   296. berselius Posted: February 04, 2010 at 02:43 AM (#3453731)
Ooh Fresh Prince. A classic.

The Simpsons is such an outlier that it's tough to compare it with shows like Venture Bros. It's been on for 20+ seasons! It's not what it was, but the Simpsons peak was longer than Venture Bros has even been on.
   297. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: February 04, 2010 at 02:45 AM (#3453735)
The Simpsons is like SNL at this point. It's only going to be as good as its current crop of writers. There will be peaks and valleys. Maybe it's past its HoF peak, but it's still darn good television, and even when it's bad, it's rarely awful. I don't think the bad outweighs the good. If The Simpsons isn't the greatest cartoon ever because of the bad years, then Craig Biggio isn't a Hall of Famer because of how his career ended.
   298. APNY Posted: February 04, 2010 at 02:46 AM (#3453736)
Never really got into the Simpsons, and I don't think i've seen a new episode in at least 10 years. Though the Micheal Jackson episode and Homer eating all the doughnuts in the world are TV moments i'll always remember.
   299. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: February 04, 2010 at 02:51 AM (#3453738)
Fresh Prince was aiight, as far as sitcoms go. It was enjoyable but almost all of the quality came from Will Smith's other-worldly, infectious charisma. As the Onion once said, he's the black man everyone at work can agree on.
   300. Mefisto Posted: February 04, 2010 at 02:58 AM (#3453741)
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