. As for the Red Sox - is there anyone who’s 6’5-ish and sort of on the rubenesque side of fit who might fit the bill? Hmmmm....

You're pretty pathetic.

I'm sick of these aspersions against Wily Mo Peña.

I'm sick of these aspersions against Wily Mo Peña.

After watching him in DC for a few weeks - Wily Mo is 10 feet tall and bulletproof.

You're pretty pathetic.

If you're referring to who I think you think I'm referring to... the Sox official Web site lists him as 6'4" 230.

He only did it because the Twins made him feel like a little girl.

Which isn't even close to 6'5" 276.

It does say "entertainer/athlete". Could be a pro wrestler - lord knows there are enough of those who fit that size profile.

Just trying to proffer alternate theories...

"The Rock" is an entertainer/athlete that is billed as 6-5, 276, but I don't know if he has any Massachusetts connections.

No way Rich Garces is 6'5''....and he's probably closer to 376.

In all seriousness, its probably a professional "wrestler."

Which isn't even close to 6'5" 276.

As someone who is 5'10" 250... unless the cameras have been lying to me all these years - _________ also isn't even close to 230.

These are all logical suggestions - but don't wrestlers usually call southern locales or Canada home?

Triple H is from Greenwich, Connecticut!

Nelson de la Rosa's dead right?

John Cena is from Massachusetts

Is this #### really necessary? Why?

Seriously, who are these wrestlers? Is Rikishi still alive? Good lord I've become old.

John Cena is from Massachusetts

That's sure as hell what I first thought. But he's listed at 6'1", 240. I can see the weight being off, but 6'1" and 6'5" are very different. The Red Sox do have four 6'4"-plus, famous guys... but why would you describe their players as "entertainer/athletes"? That phrase makes much more sense applied to a wrestler. I dunno, I can't think of anything that makes sense. Why the hell would they release the guy's height and weight anyway???

The U.S. Attorney's office disagrees, saying that Specialty supplied HGH for a "well-known" athlete in Massachusetts and an "entertainer/athlete" who received a shipment was 6-foot-5, 276 pounds, according to the New York Daily News.

That is a badly constructed sentence, but it sounds like the HGH was reportedly delivered to two different people:

1) a "well-known" athlete in MA; and
2) an "entertainer/athlete" who was 6'5, 276

Ortiz would fit into the former category, but so would several people.

He doesn't really fit in the second category since he's not an "entertainer." That does sound more like a wrestler. Who knows.

Who cares.

#14 beat me to it, but he's only 6'1

i hate you mcnally. stfu.

no class at all.

Could it be http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5909

let's start ripping on dane cook again. he seems to be more buff than he was a few years ago.

How tall is Tim Wakefield?

Heavy P? He doesn't live in Boston, to the best of my knowledge, but he used to play there. I kind of hate to think it, but...

Apparently, he's currently a Kansas City T-Bone. That seems thematically appropriate, and from the photo he looks like he's having fun. I miss having him in the majors, though.

The report is poorly written, but by my reading the "entertainer/athlete" needs not have any Massachusetts connections. In addition to the Rock, Hulk Hogan is also listed at 6'5" 275.

it is too bad growth hormone does not actually make you grow. because i sure would LUUUVVV to get me some of that

you're a genius ephus. you know how i can tell? because you were able to piece together all of the difficult clues and to reveal the name of the athlete to those of us who couldn't figure it out for ourselves. thank you, sincerely.

"let's start ripping on dane cook again. he seems to be more buff than he was a few years ago."

What, did he move on from stealing jokes from other comedians, and swipe Carrot Top's arms instead?

Judging this list, I have narrowed the list to a few candidates:

Rocky Marciano
Jermaine Wiggins
Conan O'Brien
Ray and Tom from Car Talk
Doug Flutie in heels
Michael Chiklis standing on the shoulders of Doug Flutie wearing heels
And if there's anything else Carlos Pena could do to piss off Sox fans, it would have to be to embroil Papi in a steroid $hitstorm

Is this #### really necessary? Why?

"Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No. But I do it anyway because its sterile and I like the taste." </Patches O'Houlihan>

Upon reflection The Cheat's correct, that is a horrible sentence. And the NY Daily News says as much...

Prosecutors did not identify any customers, other than to say that one athlete was "well-known" in Massachusetts, and that one "entertainer/athlete" who received it was 6-foot-5 and 276 pounds. It was not clear whether the two descriptions were of the same person.

poor red sox fans. He's the last person you'd want to hear connected to this. Question: is Papi really 6'5 276? He always seemed a bit short to me, but I guess the weight could be close if the ESPN weighting is off, which they usually are.

"Ray and Tom from Car Talk"

Don't juice like my brother!

While that picture of Carrot Top is frightening and disconcerting, it appears that he is lifting 30 lb dumbbells, which is not flattering or impressive. That leaves frightening and disconcerting as the picture's ONLY contributions.

an "entertainer/athlete" who received a shipment was 6-foot-5, 276 pounds, according to the New York Daily News.

Can you get mail just addressed to your height and weight?

You can't go wrong with a combination of an unnamed informant and Wikipedia, so it's one of these people:
Tony Amonte, hockey player
Jeff Bagwell, baseball player
Tom Barrasso, hockey player
Dana Barros, basketball player
Joe Bellino, football player, Heisman Trophy Winner
Travis Best, basketball player
Mark Bellhorn, baseball player
Andy Brickley, hockey player
Chris Capuano,Baseball player
John Cena, professional wrestler
Mickey Cochrane, Hall-of-Fame baseball player
Tony Conigliaro, baseball player
Jim Craig, USA Olympic hockey player, 1980 Lake Placid
Honey Craven, equestrian
Mike Eruzione, USA Olympic Hockey Player, 1980 Lake Placid
Mark Fidrych, Baseball player, 1976 MLB AL. rookie of the year
Doug Flutie, NFL, CFL Football Player, Heisman Trophy Winner Founder of Flutie Flakes and The Doug Flutie Jr. Foundation for Autism
Bill Guerin, hockey player
Tom Glavine, baseball pitcher
Fran Healy, baseball player, announcer
Jarrett Jack, went to school in Worcester, Mass.
Tim Keefe, 19th century baseball pitcher
Rocky Marciano, boxer
Lou Merloni, baseball player
Mike Milbury, hockey player
Jay Pandolfo, hockey player
Vincent Peluga, Ultimate frisbee and ga-ga
Carlos Peña, baseball player
Tom Poti, hockey player
Jerry Remy, baseball player, announcer
Jeremy Roenick, hockey player
Joe Sacco, hockey player
Alicia Sacramone, World Champion gymnast
Keith Tkachuk, hockey player
Micky Ward, boxer
Jermaine Wiggins, football player
Mark Wohlers, baseball pitcher
Wilbur Wood, baseball pitcher

It has to be Honey Craven.

Can you get mail just addressed to your height and weight?

I'm no lawyer, but I'm guessing a condition of the agreement was to keep folks anonymous, and the paperwork presented as evidence listed height and weight, since aren't such things perscribed by height and weight? Like would not Mini-Me need less HGH than say, Yao Ming?

"Ray and Tom from Car Talk"

Don't juice like my brother!

Thanks to our law firm, Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe, and to our pharmacists, the Dr. Michael F. Bell Co.

Tim Keefe, 19th century baseball pitcher

BULLSEYE.

I'm 6', 170 but I get mail for 6', 171 all the time. Very frustrating.

Mark Wohlers is my guess

Like would not Mini-Me need less HGH than say, Yao Ming?

Wouldn't he need more?

Given the fractured sentence construction, perhaps it was the package of HGH itself that was 6-foot, 5-inches tall and weighed 276 pounds. In which case, my best guess is that this gentleman was the recipient.

Pedroia.

I'd demand that his team be retroactively stripped of its 2004 title except that they had to beat Giambi's Yankees and Glaus's Angels to get there. Plus Glaus's team would have to forfeit the 2002 title.

It would be very funny if Barry Bonds complained about losing the 2002 series because of Glaus's roids.

What, did he move on from stealing jokes from other comedians, and swipe Carrot Top's arms instead?

F you Vlad. Now I want to claw my eyes out.

Why does he have a Glamour magazine framed?

What, did he move on from stealing jokes from other comedians, and swipe Carrot Top's arms instead?

I'm pretty sure that it's Carrot Top's head superimposed on Larry Mahnken's body. It looks suspiciously like the picture of Larry in THT's beefcake issue.

Best Regards

John

"F you Vlad. Now I want to claw my eyes out."

The goggles, they do nothing!

Danny Ainge, is that you?

Maybe it was Tina Cervasio?

Maybe it's a typo. Isn't kevin 5'5" and 265lbs?

"Why does he have a Glamour magazine framed?"

This is an excellent question.

I don't think this is David Ortiz.

I really hope it's not David Ortiz.

I don't think this is David Ortiz.

I really hope it's not David Ortiz.

Oh, come off it Larry. You wouldn't smile on the inside if "Big Papi", the hero of all things Boston, turned out to be a fraud like the rest of them? I sure would. I might make a show of harumphing, bad for the game, such a tragedy for the children, &c;&c;, but, you know, #### 'em, they're just Bostonians anyways.

Oh, come off it Larry. You wouldn't smile on the inside if "Big Papi", the hero of all things Boston, turned out to be a fraud like the rest of them? I sure would. I might make a show of harumphing, bad for the game, such a tragedy for the children, &c;&c;, but, you know, #### 'em, they're just Bostonians anyways.

No, not really. I think Ortiz is a good guy, and I only "hate" him because he kills the Yankees. Also, I don't think HGH really does anything, so I don't think it would diminish anything he's done. It would only tarnish his reputation.

I would enjoy kevin's reaction, but I would not enjoy the fact that Ortiz was using.

I'm pretty sure that it's Carrot Top's head superimposed on Larry Mahnken's body. It looks suspiciously like the picture of Larry in THT's beefcake issue.

I've really let myself go since then.

Oh, come off it Larry. You wouldn't smile on the inside if "Big Papi", the hero of all things Boston, turned out to be a fraud like the rest of them? I sure would. I might make a show of harumphing, bad for the game, such a tragedy for the children, &c;&c;, but, you know, #### 'em, they're just Bostonians anyways.

Single-handedly bolstering the classic sterotype of NYY fandom as type of character flaw, often found in small, unremarkable men who lack either virtue or vice, or their similarly undistinguised little spawn. Nice work, 'zop.

The ESPN "article" is very poorly written--for instance, it fails to mention when this event(s) occurred, BTW.

Single-handedly bolstering the classic sterotype of NYY fandom as type of character flaw, often found in small, unremarkable men who lack either virtue or vice, or their similarly undistinguised little spawn. Nice work, 'zop

If wishing ill on people from Boston is a character flaw, then I'm Pol ######' Pot.

If wishing ill on people from Boston is a character flaw, then I'm Pol ######' Pot.

You can make Wok seem insightful by compapson at times.

The only Yankee I'd be happy to see discovered to be on PEDs would be Cano - he's the only one I genuinely dislike. The rest are just irritants, but not on such a level that I want their rep tarnished.

Cano though, for no reason in particular, just bothers me a lot.

You can make Wok seem insightful by compapson at times.

Make no mistake; in my spare time I can offer reams of insight. But lord, do I hate Boston. Not just the Sox- the whole package. And unfortunately I've had to spend more time up there than I'd like in recent years, so I'm both intimately familiar with the so-called "city" and have felt my hatred grow stronger by the day. Nothing would give me more pleasure than to see the little children of Boston cry; and the only two ways I could see that happening is if (1) the Boston area was forced to desegregate its towns + neighborhoods from their present state (we know that will never happen) or (2) Ortiz is revealed as a big fat cheater (a man can dream, cant he?)

Pssst. I know who it is:

This guy.

Raise your hand if you believe that David Ortiz weighs only 230 lbs or Curt Schilling only 235. Now poke yourself in the eye. And say "ow" if you had a sharp pencil in your hand.

Upon reflection The Cheat's correct, that is a horrible sentence. And the NY Daily News says as much...

Prosecutors did not identify any customers, other than to say that one athlete was "well-known" in Massachusetts, and that one "entertainer/athlete" who received it was 6-foot-5 and 276 pounds. It was not clear whether the two descriptions were of the same person.

I would say that Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, and Alex Rodriguez are all athletes who are "well-known in Massachusetts". Jason Giambi, of course, would also fit that description...

Raise your hand if you believe that David Ortiz weighs only 230 lbs or Curt Schilling only 235. Now poke yourself in the eye. And say "ow" if you had a sharp pencil in your hand.

Seriously. At best, listed heights/weights can be described as "grossly inaccurate".

I would say that Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, and Alex Rodriguez are all athletes who are "well-known in Massachusetts". Jason Giambi, of course, would also fit that description...

FAIL. It's a well-known athlete/entertainer who is in (or from) Massachusetts, not an athlete/entertainer who is well-known in Massachusetts. The latter description would cover nearly every well-known athlete/entertainer on the planet.

Here's a hidden-camera video of the guy receiving the shipment.

Sounds like your typical NFL shithead.

If it's Pena, we here at Northeastern University are going to be absolutely crushed.

I mean, please God, let us have something.

(Also, the phrase "well known in Massachusetts" honestly makes me believe its more likely to be someone like Pena. Flukey (?) home run season, bounced around in the minors last year, grew up in Massachusetts, played college ball here. If it were an actual Massachusetts athlete, wouldn't they out and say that, rather than attach the "well known in" stipulation?)

edit: Oh nevermind. Well known athlete in Massachusetts and athlete well known in Massachusetts are entirely different. We still have our Pena to trump for the forseeable future.

Post 62: It's not Mr Strong. He gets his strength from eating lots of eggs for breakfast.

On a more serious note, it seems to me that saying an athlete was well-known "in Massachusetts" could be an indication that the athlete is well-known only in Massachusetts, which would eliminate as a possibility the likes of Tom Brady or Paul Pierce, as well as the most prominent Red Sox players (Schilling, Ramirez, Ortiz).

I think it's an odd way to describe even the "second line" stars of the area's pro teams, to be honest.

Mike Vrabel.

Mystery solved

Make no mistake; in my spare time I can offer reams of insight. But lord, do I hate Boston. Not just the Sox- the whole package. And unfortunately I've had to spend more time up there than I'd like in recent years, so I'm both intimately familiar with the so-called "city" and have felt my hatred grow stronger by the day. Nothing would give me more pleasure than to see the little children of Boston cry; and the only two ways I could see that happening is if (1) the Boston area was forced to desegregate its towns + neighborhoods from their present state (we know that will never happen) or (2) Ortiz is revealed as a big fat cheater (a man can dream, cant he?)

This is pathetic. It's also lame and unfunny. There's clearly something wrong with you.

FAIL. It's a well-known athlete/entertainer who is in (or from) Massachusetts, not an athlete/entertainer who is well-known in Massachusetts. The latter description would cover nearly every well-known athlete/entertainer on the planet.

That's not what the New York Daily News article reported:


But it did provide HGH for such uses, according to the U.S. Attorney's office. Prosecutors did not identify any customers, other than to say that one athlete was "well-known" in Massachusetts, and that one "entertainer/athlete" who received it was 6-foot-5 and 276 pounds. It was not clear whether the two descriptions were of the same person.

That's different from what the article linked from ESPN.com said.

According to The Boston Globe:

The agreement says that in 2002 and 2003, the company provided the hormone, regarded by some as a lab-generated fountain of youth, to two entertainers, an individual involved in both sports and entertainment, and to a professional athlete in Massachusetts...

The firm distributed the drug to the unidentified Massachusetts athlete "pursuant to a physician request" around Jan. 2, 2002, and Oct. 24, 2003, the agreement said.

This essentially eliminates several athletes mentioned on this thread as possibilities.

Mirabelli

My only thought on Ortiz is that I wish the Yanks could trade Giambi for him. They could use the run production.

This is pathetic. It's also lame and unfunny. There's clearly something wrong with you.

I'm sorry that you're defensive about your favorite team hailing from a racist fetid stinkhole of a city. Actually, I'm not. Cheers.

The firm distributed the drug to the unidentified Massachusetts athlete "pursuant to a physician request" around Jan. 2, 2002, and Oct. 24, 2003, the agreement said.

2002? Damn. I was sure it was Millar.

I'm sorry that you're defensive about your favorite team hailing from a racist fetid stinkhole of a city. Actually, I'm not. Cheers.

Awesome, more jokes that absolutely kill! And there's no racism in NYC, and it smells so nice here. What a pathetic little twit you are here with this garbage. Seriously, do you still live at home? And did you post this because you thought it was funny?

And Boston can't be racist--everybody votes Democratic.

dzop's also well-known for mocking people for being poor. Really no need to engage with him.

'zop, I hope you contract cancer of the AIDS of the eyes.


Cheers.

Nomar.

The only Yankee I'd be happy to see discovered to be on PEDs would be Cano - he's the only one I genuinely dislike.

There's something wrong with you, deep down inside. Seek help.

Gabby Kapler?

John Cena is from Massachusetts

No way that is possible. He can overcome any odds, he doens't need steroids.

'zop, I hope you contract cancer of the AIDS of the eyes.

You can't get AIDS limited to the eyes. HOwever, if he got AIDS THROUGH the eyes, that would be a first.

At least we know it's not JD Drew.

Tom Poti, hockey player

I'm not sure if he's on steroids, but he's got the hypogonads anyway.

and the only two ways I could see that happening is if (1) the Boston area was forced to desegregate its towns + neighborhoods from their present state (we know that will never happen) or (2) Ortiz is revealed as a big fat cheater (a man can dream, cant he?)

I realize I'm dragging this off-topic, but I don't care.

I think your idea/perception of the Boston metro area is, um, at best out of date.

Of the largest metro areas in the US ranked in terms of racial segregation, Boston's about middle of the pack.

...if he got AIDS THROUGH the eyes, that would be a first.

I'm not so sure about that.

You can't get AIDS limited to the eyes. HOwever, if he got AIDS THROUGH the eyes, that would be a first.

All we'd need is some HIV-infected yellow snow, an angry Eskimo, and a fur trapper clubbing a baby seal at the wrong place and the wrong time.

Wait, I got it:

HEE SEOP CHOI. He's huge for an Asian guy, he MUST be roiding.

Watch our where the Huskies go,
and don't you eat that yellow snow!

Did no one read the article? The article says that it was sent to a "well known Massachusetts athlete" AND a "276 pound athlete/entertainer". The two aren't the same.

The grammar in that sentence is so bad, I can't tell what the hell he was trying to say. It sounds like the shipment itself was 6'5 270 pounds.

That is a lot of steroids.

Vlad,

Couldn't you have cropped that picture a little? Carrot Top is scary enough without having to see the top half of his crotch.

I sure hope that it's not a Red Sox player. That would mean that Boston had a proven steroid user on the team, which would be almost as bad as having two proven steroid users on the team. Like that other team, the _______ York _______.

Just about anybody on the Red Sox could be considered 'well-known.' I remember rumors a few years ago that an all-star player from a playoff team had tested positive. It turned out to be Matt Lawton. It was an accurate description (though I don't think Lawton ever actually appeared in the playoffs for the Yankees) but not exactly who everyone was expecting.

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They play in the Canadian Soccer League. A sport that Americans don't care about, in CANADA. I mean c'mon.

dzop's also well-known for mocking people for being poor. Really no need to engage with him.

Well-known for mocking Rob Base because he was poor. Which is an entirely different thing all-together.

I also note that when McCoy went off an extended rant about rich kids in the "Shelley Duncan Prank" thread, there was nary a comment...well, there was one or two comments, but most people let it slide. If there's a pervasive anti-money bias on this website, its y'all's problem, not mine.

Forgot Lawton. Make that three.

Now, a quick look at rosters from the last couple years - the Bruins had no one who was close to that height/weight combo… Zedno Chara’s too tall and no one else was even close to heavy enough. Similarly, there were no suspects on the Celtics roster. There are a few Patriots linemen who fit that description, but no one of tremendous note. As for the Red Sox - is there anyone who’s 6’5-ish and sort of on the rubenesque side of fit who might fit the bill? Hmmmm....

Note - I have no idea who the “well known” athlete is, but I suspect its only a matter of time before that person is even more well known.

I go to the Big E and I miss this thread? Dude, this is child's play. It's the jockey of the horse that I keyed in the 6th for the Pick Three at Suffolk the other day.

The Big E. That brings back memories....wish I could go back there sometimes, I used to have fun there.