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Boo Radley/Tom Hagen/"The Great Santini"/Lt. Col. Kilgore
Performers in 1980s Miller Lite beer ads:
Bob Uecker/Mickey Spillane/Red Auerbach/Bubba Smith
Dan Aykroyd on SNL:
Elwood Blues/Beldar Conehead/E. Buzz Miller/Georg Festrunk
I'd bump Sideshow Bob for Lionel Hutz, but that's about right.
Elwood Blues/Beldar Conehead/E. Buzz Miller/Yortuk Festrunk
I gotta ditch E. Buzz Miller for Fred Garvin........Male Prostitute.
Cesar Romero/Burgess Meredith/Frank Gorshin/Victor Buono (couldn't decide which Catwoman)
Candidates for "Fifth Beatle" title:
Pete Best/Stu Sutcliffe/Billy Preston/Murray the K
Perennial Playboy Mansion guests:
James Caan/Don Adams/George Kennedy/Scott Baio
Lee Allen/Roger Angell/Bill James/Ring Lardner
Julie Newmar.
John, Paul, George, Ringo.
Well, that was easy.
Mr.Rushmore of Law & Order characters:
Adam Schiff, Lenny Briscoe, Mike Logan, Claire Kincaid.
I never cared much for Angie Harmon's character. I like a lawyer who thought McCoy went too far, not one who wanted to go further.
In retrospect, maybe Dr. Skoda belonged as the fourth one. I loved the scene where they first introduce him. McCoy wants a diangosis of a suspect. Skoda: "You want me to diagnosis a patient I've never met based on a few sentences?"
McCoy: "Yes."
Skoda: (pauses for a beat) "OK." (after some pysch talk) "OK, so far I've described my teenage son."
Babe Ruth
Jackie Robinson
Alexander Cartwright?
Landis?
Branch Rickey?
I'll go with the Four R's: Ruth, Robinson, (Branch) Rickey and Ripken. Let the 19th century build a Rushmore of its own.
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Simpsons characters who aren't members of the Simpson family?
Mr. Burns, Principal Skinner, Krusty and Sideshow Bob. VERY tough choices.
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Getting back to baseball, how about baseball writers/authors?
In chronological order: Spink**, Koppett, Angell, and James.
** as a publisher, not as a writer
That episode where she basically flat-out threatened the serial killer guy with shipping him back here to Texas to fry, got what she wanted, then shipped him back anyway? Real life, I'd be aghast. TV? #### yeah!
You cannot not have one of Ralph or Milhouse. Period.
I agree. I'd go Mr. Burns, Krusty, Milhouse, and Moe.
You cannot not have one of Ralph or Milhouse. Period.
Then expand your mountaintop, cuz my four is it. And I'd take the Chief over Ralph.
"That's what they all say---they all say 'D'oh!'
Three years ago when a friend and I were both back in school to finish up our degrees, we spent the entire spring break repeating Milhouse lines from the car trip to the World's Fair.
Was it that episode, or the one where Grampa gets his driver's license that had the best one-off joke in Simpsons history: Bronson, Missouri?
"Hey ma, gimme one of them ice creams."
"No dice."
"Dis. Ain't. Ovah."
I'm a little worried about you folks voting for Moe.
Burns, Hutz, Barney and ... Krusty
tough call on #4.
Top TV Horses: Silver, Trigger, Mr. Ed, whatever horse McCloud would jump on once a season
Top TV witches: Elizabeth Montgomery, Elizabeth Montgomery, Elizabeth Montgomery, Rose McGowan
Top TV captains: Skipper, Steubing, Trapper John, Frank Furillo
The team is too young, so it doesn't matter, but for now it would more likely be Galarraga, Castilla, Walker, Helton.
Harry Potter Rushmore, excluding Harry, Ron and Hermione:
Dumbledore, Snape, Hagrid, Sirius
Richard Dreyfuss characters:
Matt Hooper, Mr Holland, Roy Neary, Elliot Garfield
Fictional spies:
George Smiley, James Bond, Jason Bourne, Derek Flint
Fictional vampires:
Angel, Lestat, Dracula, Count Chocula
"Bart's my bestest boyfriend." -Ralph
Ralph and Milhouse are both in, along with Mr. Burns and Barney.
Premature, definitely. Wright would have to repeat his career to date to clearly pass Straw. And Gooden flamed out after about four years whereon he was nothing special. Daryl, OTOH, was a beast during his stretch with the Mets.
Matt Hooper, Mr Holland, Roy Neary, Elliot Garfield
Good grief, no Duddy Kravitz? That was far and away Dreyfuss's best developed character.
Wouldn't it have been nice, though, if instead of just waving this #### at us as the door hit him in the ass on the way out, Ike had actually done something about it in the eight ####### years he to work on the problem?
Point taken about the timing, and it was Ike who put the Bay of Pigs in motion. But it was also Ike who spooned the saltpeter into Dulles and Nixon when they were itching to send U.S. "support" to the French at Dienbienphu. Not to mention that he got us out of Korea just six months and change after being in office.
Matt Hooper, Mr Holland, Roy Neary, Elliot Garfield
Good grief, no Duddy Kravitz? That was far and away Dreyfuss's best developed character.
I always liked Curt Henderson
"No dice."
"Dis. Ain't. Ovah."
It's "hey ma, how bout some cookies". I use that all the time.
Lenny, Barney, George H. W. Bush, and Mr. Burns.
Two things:
1. You can't have a one time character on there.
2. James Woods > Bush
Burns, McClure, Skinner, Jasper.
Nerd edit: George H.W. Bush has been in at least two episodes. There's the "Two Bad Neighbours" one and he has a cameo at the end of the one where Marge gets a job in real estate.
Edit: I thought Bush had a cameo in one (or two) episode, but I choose to ignore it.
I love Lenny. He doesn't have to do anything and he's funny, when used properly - President Lenny, "the bank put Lenny in charge" Flanders: "I'm not sure who you are, but I'm sure you must be some kind of jerk." Lenny: "I just got here, what's going on?"
Best Russian authors:
Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Gogol, Pushkin.
Actually, I don't think Ike is underrated at all. He just made one very prescient speech. And I consider Truman to be one of the best presidents, easily.
1. You can't have a one time character on there.
2. James Woods > Bush
Wasn't James Woods a Family Guy one-timer? When was he in the Simpsons?
All right, all right, you hate GW Bush. Got'cha.
But graceless?
By any reasonable standard, W. exited rather gracefully. Hence all the talk of the smoothness of the transition and the professionalism of W's staff. As far as I can tell, no one stole the O's from the White House keyboards.
Troy McClure, Lionel Hutz, Ralph Wiggum, Mr. Burns (Hoy hoy! still cracks me up.)
The show just hasn't been the same without Phil Hartman.
Also, I like classical music. I'll go with Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Wagner (Richard, not Honus).
And the problem with Hutz and McClure, genius as they were (Hutz more so), is that there's just so little of them, fair or not. As great as Hutz was, a few seasons of him does not compete when you're talking in context of the most developed and wide-ranging supporting cast in the history of television.
Yellowstone, Grand Teton, Yosemite, Grand Canyon.
I don't think Mt. Rushmore makes it, though technically I think it is classified as a National Monument. If I was forced to add a 5th, Glacier.
No one stole the W's, either. Sigh. 8 years later.
Aw man, I actually thought that was clever at the time. My one good memory of the Bush years ruined.
Yep. Ham-handed lies and an eager media corps ready to make foot long sandwiches out of it. Just depressing, really. Ah well, time to get on with the rest of our lives.
It looks like there were missing W's and other assorted prankery. Prankage. Prankitude. Prankosity. Prankallelograms. Captain Prank Burns. Prank Howard.
I never accused them of "extensive vandalism," which is the main debunkage of that piece. Debunkitude. Debunkliness. Debunksymtote.
This made me laugh.
Ah, speaking of cereal logos...
Cap'n Crunch, Tony the Tiger, Trix Rabbit, Lucky the Leprechaun
James Woods takes over the Kwik-E-Mart after Apu gets fired.
"Yes...yes, a...a movie, yes."
Family Guy had a James Woods episode as well? That's a shocking turn of events...that show using the same idea as a Simpsons episode.
They pretty blatantly rip off the Simpson's and Youtube and whatever else isn't nailed down. I still like it, though.
Not a problem if you haven't watched the Simpsons since about 1999, when they went precipitously downhill. I have heard rumors of recovery probably every 2 years since then, have no idea if they are accurate or not. I hope that they are - I wouldn't want a generation of kids to grow up thinking this is the most overrated show, and that the older folks that sing its praises are nuts
Truman's watch included NATO, the Marshall Plan, the integration of the armed forces, and tremendous courage on civil rights generally
Glad to see so many consider Eisenhower as underrated. It's hard to judge presidents who keep things from happening. Ike kept his head in a time when all too many were losing theirs. Which was his great attribute in war, too, besides being a master preparer (administrator/organizer).A brilliant man in many ways, but who is underrated because he didn't have oratorical flourish (his speeches are just brilliant policy statements). He not only despised McCarthyism, he administered the coup de grace to Tailgunner Joe.
What coup de grace was that? I have read nothing that suggests that Eisenhower stood up to McCarthy in any way, ever. DDE had virtues, but compared to Truman he was a follower on civil rights (though ultimately Ike did the right thing in Little Rock).
Both Truman and Eisenhower were cold warriors with some basic undemocratic impulses when it came to running foreign policy, so Truman was not unadmixedly great, but he doesn't suffer by comparison to Eisenhower, certainly.
Tiger, Hogan, Nicklaus, Jones
Montana, Brown, LT, Lombardi
Orr, Gretzky, Mario, Gordie
Damn, I was really hoping this was word. It's a tongue-twister, but I like it.
They're not true - they've settled into mining old ideas. Which is pretty much impossible not to do after 450 episodes or whatever.
Remember the end of (IIRC) the 138th episode spectacular, where they made fun of themselves, saying soon they'd be doing "wedding after wedding after wedding"? Yeah, that's pretty much where they are now - guest stars and weddings.
Comic Book Guy
Principal Skinner
Milhouse
Flanders
Ya won't have your Willie to slap around anymore!
Comic Book Guy
Principal Skinner
Milhouse
Flanders
No Ralph Wiggum? That's unpossible.
I actually think that Milhouse has been a more consistently funny character. Ralph is funny, but a bit one-note.
Bart: You were supposed to be watching!
Milhouse: I was watching! I saw the whole thing. First it started to fall over, and then it fell over.
Even though everything he does, Lionel Hutz could do about a million times better. I really think Hutz has to stand alone as the best non-family character for me.
As mentioned Woods and Bush
Dustin Hoffman for way back when they actually went for sentimentality
Steve Martin's Ray Patterson was pretty good, even though he more or less just played the straight man to Homer
DeVito's Herbert Powell
Meryl Streep
Winona Ryder (wasn't all that good, but I never pass up a chance to talk about Winona)
Bob Newhart's eulogy at Krusty's funeral always gets me.
Whoever voiced Scorpio. I love that epsiode.
Albert Brooks
He also did the EPA guy in the movie.
No one ever chooses Italy.
Ah! He's done a lot of voices, no? He was the substitute teacher, too, I think. Another good episode.
As well as the amorous bowling instructor Jacques in an early episode.
I think you're thinking of Dustin Hoffman.
I think you're thinking of Dustin Hoffman.
D'oh! My bad.
edit: Brooks was aslo Brad Goodman, self-help guru and Cowboy Bob, RV salesman. I would say Albert Brooks' appearances dwarf Jon Lovitz'.
That was a tremendous episode. I'm just 2-3 episodes away from finishing my reappraisal of Star Trek: TNG. I should follow that up with an episode by episode evaluation of the Simpsons. The trick will be deciding when to stop...I think it'll be a bit depressing grading episodes after season 10 or so. Ahh Grad School will truly stand as the most productive time in my life.
From wiki about the Scorpio role.
Isaac Asimov
Arthur C. Clarke
Philip K. Dick
That is not an easy task.
Link up those ST: TNG discussions, brah.
So far my outliers have been "Lower Decks" and "Disaster"
Which I think are both excellent episodes but don't seem to be popular among my TNG fan friends
On the other side, I don't like "Relics" as much as some people do.
A fun game to play is best (or least-worst might be more accurate) Troi or Wes episodes.
I go with "Face of the Enemy" and "The Game"
Isaac Asimov
Arthur C. Clarke
Philip K. Dick
Good one, but I'd probably drop Clarke and add Jules Verne.
I love PK Dick, but he'd be the weak link here - Heinlein would have an argument.
I can't stand any of the Wes episodes and most of the Troi ones bore me. Favorite Worf and Data episodes I could do.
I'm a big Willie fan, but no.
Willie has one big advantage going for him: he's gotten funnier as the show has declined. Some of my favorite moments from recent seasons have been Willie moments. Bart sees Willie at a golf course. "Groundskeeper Willie?" "Bah - on weekends and summers, I'm Greenskeeper Willie." It viewed/sounded funnier than it reads.
The ultimate Willie moment:
(kids come running out of school in terror after a prank)
Skinner: Willie!
(Willie rides up in a John Deere-ish looking tractor, except that it's red instead of green)
Willie: Don't worry principal, I'm bring those children back - dead or alive!
Skinner: Not dead.
Willie: Auk! Ya never let Willie be Willie!
Best part: you know how John Deere tractors always have the words "John Deere" in yellow on the side. This tractor had, also written in yellow, the word: "Willie." Awesome.
Isaac Asimov
Arthur C. Clarke
Philip K. Dick
Good one, but I'd probably drop Clarke and add Jules Verne.
I love PK Dick, but he'd be the weak link here - Heinlein would have an argument.
Douglas Adams
How can you argue against Mr. Burns, Barney, Moe, and Flanders as the Simpsons non-central cast Rushmore? I gotta' tell ya', I think that's the game right there.
I love PK Dick, but he'd be the weak link here - Heinlein would have an argument.
I probably erred on the side of a little more era-completion. I could have simply put all golden-age guys. Dick was my last guy, and I'm not even the hugest fan, but given his place in the canon, it seemed wrong to leave him out.
Douglas Adams
Considering the fact that I have a double-duty 42 tattooed on the inside of my left forearm, trust me, I thought of him. Sadly, he just doesn't have enough output.
As big a fan as I am of TNG I don't really have the episode names remembered. But I know I hated the one with Data's daughter. "The Inner Light" was truly awesome with the nitpicky caveat of the spoon-fed group explanation at the end, it was a hammer in the face of "YOU'RE STUPID, AUDIENCE" that really annoyed me.
Founders/Administators:
Forman, Furtado, Dimino, Repoz
Posters:
Andy, Nieporent, Brattain, Keefe
Top 10 by my accounts (in no particular order)
Who Watches the Watchers - Proto-Vulcan think Picard is God
Best of Both Worlds - Wolf 359!
Darmok - Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra!
Disaster - ship just dies, various crew members are stuck with one another, Worf delivers Keiko's baby, Picard in a turbolift with a bunch of kids
I, Borg - first independent Borg
Inner Light - as Bob Dernier describes
Chain of Command - Picard in a Cardassion torture prison
Starship Mine - Picard pretends to be Mott the barber as the terrorists board the Enterprise during a baryon sweep. Bonus scene for Data practicing his "small-talk", 2nd funniest scene in the show.
Lower Decks - episode from the perspective of some ensigns
All Good Things...
Honourable mention goes to "The Pegasus" the one with John Locke from Lost as Eric Pressman, an admiral trying to create a cloak for the Federation. The opening scene is the funniest ever I think...they are preparing the celebrations for Captain Picard day, with Jean-Luc being visible uncomfortale at the thought of talking to children, and Riker does a wonderful impression of him.
Bottom 10 would be difficult, they are all pretty much season 1 and 2 episodes...but some doozies in the 3-7 era.
Eye of the Beholder - Troi feels the empathic echo of a murder in the Enterprise
Sub Rosa - Crusher falls in love with a Scottish interphasic ghost dude
Dark Page - Lwaxana has nightmares about another daughter she had that died
A Fistful of Datas - holodeck ##### up, news at 11.
Devil's Due - con-woman tries pretends to be the devil and takes over a planet.
He's certainly the odd one out, considering that he could actually write.
Geez, me neither. I have to Google them based on details of the episode.
I hated the one with Data's daughter
I cried. Maybe I was in a really susceptible mood that night :) It's worth watching, for me, just to see the short scene where she kisses Riker and Data has to get tough with him.
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra!
Excellent, excellent episode.
Crusher falls in love with a Scottish interphasic ghost dude
My God, I had repressed ever seeing that one.
First Contact and Frame of Mind are both ones I like as well. I also like the one "Schisms" where Riker and others are abducted by aliens and cut up into pieces and put back together. Riker may be my favourite character to headline an episode. I think Geordi is my favourite character, but it's hard for him to carry a whole episode himself.
The one where Data gets a girlfriend, and he goes to Riker for advice, Riker essentially just smiles his "oh-boy-we-got-a-new-female-ensign-on-board" smile and pretty much says..."oh you SO gotta nail this broad".
I am certainly no sci-fi person anymore, but I read way more than enough Asimov, Wells, and Clark in junior high to say that Dick (who I stumbled across completely randomly in my mid-20s) is not just not a weak link in that group, he's the strongest one. Asimov is the only one that has an argument. Dick could ####### write, man, and he comes in second to absolutely no one when it comes to ideas. He's almost as influential in the sci-fi world as Tolkien is in the fantasy world, and Tolkien basically created his genre.
Yeah, his novels aren't as good as his short stories. And Secretariat probably would have sucked giving pony rides.
Who? Dick, or Heinlein?
Because I always thought Dick was something of a poor writer. Great idea man (he churned out great story ideas by the dozen) and could put together a plot, but his writing was lacking.
Where does Frank Herbert stand?
I still read Dune every couple years, and though the later books in that series got a little....weird, the first one still seems like an excellent book to me. Is it considered a significant science fiction book?
I love PK Dick, but he'd be the weak link here - Heinlein would have an argument.
I probably erred on the side of a little more era-completion. I could have simply put all golden-age guys. Dick was my last guy, and I'm not even the hugest fan, but given his place in the canon, it seemed wrong to leave him out.
Douglas Adams
Considering the fact that I have a double-duty 42 tattooed on the inside of my left forearm, trust me, I thought of him. Sadly, he just doesn't have enough output.
Personally, I don't like any of those guys you listed. None of them were really good story tellers. They had great ideas I guess, but their stories were poor. At least I thought so. Heinlein is clearly the best of the ones you mentioned. Honestly, Douglas Adams was a far more talented author than any of those guys. I would put other sci-fi authors over those guys also, like F.M. Busby.
The Tolkien of sci-fi is probably Asimov, considering how much effort each put into creating a coherent universe for their characters to live in.
As much as everyone hates Troi, even SHE was a better-written and more fleshed-out character than poor Geordi.
As I can't remember episodes by name, I'll just comment on ones already mentioned:
Best of Both Worlds - Wolf 359!
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I know, finally, space battles!
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Darmok - Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra!
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I remember having a love-hate relationship with this one, because I always had the idea that it would have been better if they had used the language with earth examples it would have been brilliant instead of maddening gibberish.
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Disaster - ship just dies, various crew members are stuck with one another, Worf delivers Keiko's baby, Picard in a turbolift with a bunch of kids
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I always hated these human-interest episodes on a number of levels. First of all, the damn ship was always breaking down or getting taken over by the holodeck. Secondly, you have an entire damn galaxy outside the ship to deal with, and they spent so much time just hanging out inside the damn ship.
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I, Borg - first independent Borg
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Not really my favorite Borg Episode.
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Inner Light - as Bob Dernier describes
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Not only that, Picard uses this episode to get some tail at a later date. Not really the best-written romance, although it does kind of show Picard as too big a dork to actually have a girlfriend.
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Chain of Command - Picard in a Cardassion torture prison
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THERE! ARE! FOUR! LIGHTS! Became a battle-cry amongst us as we all attempted to find work and a life after college. One of the best ones ever, definitely.
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Starship Mine - Picard pretends to be Mott the barber as the terrorists board the Enterprise during a baryon sweep. Bonus scene for Data practicing his "small-talk", 2nd funniest scene in the show.
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Loved the episode, but actually hated the "I'm Brent Spiner And I'm Talented" show.
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Some of the Klingon War episodes were very good with Worf and Picard being pretty badass. Whatever episode that ends with Picard staring down the Cardassian and then uncloaking the Klingon Warbirds. "Is today a good day to die?"
I'm sure there are a lot more that I could remember if given the opportunity. And yes, going after the bad ones is WAY too easy.
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