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Friday, December 14, 2007
Outside of listening to The Cotton Jones Basket Ride…is there anything better than diggin’ some Steve Phillips?
I’ll put myself in there, as well, quite honestly I was in the clubhouse, I got criticized for being there too much. I’m surprised by how pervasive this problem is. I really, truly thought maybe a handful of guys during my six years as general manager. I could always kind of identify the guys from the other team I thought were doing it but because there wasn’t a system in place, because there wasn’t a process or testing in place there was nowhere really to go with it and the reality is this is and this is the honest truth that every general manager wanted a level playing field where nobody took steroids, but because we couldn’t have it, we wanted a level playing field. I wasn’t going to go in and clean out my clubhouse and look in every shoebox and see who had syringes, who was doing this and who was doing that because in the end I could do that, and clean it all up and then lose a lot of games and then go to my owner and say, but at least are guys are clean, they’re skinny, they’re good guys they don’t have any roid rage, but were not winning any games. So that’s the reality and that’s the truth of it, that everybody wanted it clean, but until there was a system in place, they could do it and I don’t think it’s Bud Selig’s fault, exclusively, I don’t think it’s the union’s fault, I think everybody deserves the blame for it and now the responsibility is on everybody to clean it up.
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There is no way you didn't know Mr Phillips, what was going through your mind?
Has anyone seen this asked? It is uncomfortable watching this coverage when ESPN is ignoring the elephant in the room.
How come they won't talk to Kruk?
Phillips was pretty much a disaster as a GM, but I applaud him for the quoted statement. At least he is honest about the fact that he turned the other cheek due to self-interest.
Second, that's not quite what he said. Yes, he acknowledged that dumping players based on suspicion would not be in his team's interest, but what he actually said -- I'm not RTFA, but I saw it live on ESPN -- was that there wasn't anything he could do about it anyway, so he really had no alternative.
I wasn’t going to go in and clean out my clubhouse and look in every shoebox and see who had syringes, who was doing this and who was doing that because in the end I could do that, and clean it all up and then lose a lot of games and then go to my owner and say, but at least are guys are clean, they’re skinny, they’re good guys they don’t have any roid rage, but were not winning any games
...but I would describe it as much closer to "this would not have been in my own self-interest" than "there's nothing I could have done about it anyway".
Primey.
What were the dates of each tenure?
Only about 1 or 2 years ago, 60 minutes did a story on a Carolina Dr that sold NFL Panthers roids. Then Romanowski got sued for punching out a teammate and was accused of roid rage. Later Romanowski was busted for roids useage. In addition to this, the entire Broncos team was found to be using EAS PEDs.
Yet, I was watching ESPN report on this, sitting to the left of the host Mark Schlareth the NFL analyst for ESPN was never asked about this, despite being all shriveled up and down to just 250. I was like, what the hell?
Radomski: early 1980s - 1994 (per Mitchell report)
Phillips: 1997 - 2003
He says the reason he didn't clean up his clubhouse was because it would have ruined his team. In other words, you could not field a competitive team with out a bunch of juicers. That, to me, says that he thinks that steroid is pretty rampant. But in the other quote, he claims that he thought there wasn't much of a problem at all.
Thanks. Wasn't Phillips in the Mets org before 1997? Also, it sure seemed that Radomski was still heavily attached to the NY franchises, Mets and Yankees in some type of role as a trainer. Perhaps this was only as a private employee of a player. I am certain he was in those clubhouses post 1994.
Remember the rule added that banned personal trainers? They could have just said, personal drug dealers.
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