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Wednesday, June 04, 2008
The only time Reggie Smith will be mentioned in the same breath as Cal Ripken:
The Orioles got 21 seasons out of Cal Ripken. But did the Red Sox do better with Reggie Smith?...You could probably make a case either way for which team got more “value” from their 21 seasons. In my opinion, Ripken is still more valuable but it’s no longer a stretch to say that the Red Sox got nearly equal value out of the draft pick that netted the club Reggie Smith as the Orioles did from Cal Ripken.
vegasman2000
Posted: June 04, 2008 at 11:18 AM | 11 comment(s)
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Ripken was a second round pick, and Reggie Smith was taken in a strange hybrid of today's rule 4 and rule 5 draft that took place before the modern draft was instituted in 1965.
You'd think you'd get the headline right when you are linking to your own blog.
Yes, it was the "first year draft," in which the Red Sox plucked Smith from the Twins organization. But it wasn't really comparable to the amateur free agent draft that was instituted in 1965; Smith was already in pro ball when the Red Sox got him.
And though the first year draft was only in effect for a few years in the early-to-mid '60s, Rule 5 was in place as well, as it has been continuously since 1903.
Cal was 112, but I guess the positional adjustment and his longevity and reputation for durability add luster to that.
I think it's fair to say that Ripken had more than just a reputation for durability.
Linebrink is a 2nd round pick.
Nolan Ryan had a reputation for throwing hard.
It was around 122 when he had Smith's PAs...
At the age of 30 Ripken hit .323/.374/.566, an OPS+ of 162. His career OPS+ was 126, and he was a good defensive SS (Not just better than Jeter, but actually good).
From that point on, Ripken had 5800+ PAs of 96 OPS+ performance, plus steadily diminishing range in the field.
Of his last 5 years, only 1, 1999, was he anything special.
Reggie Smith is an interesting comparison, because if you subtract Smith's numbers from Ripken you get: 4800 PAs of .256/.295/.380 performance (an OPS+ of 82)
So, how much more value did Ripken give his teams than Smith?
Tens of millions of dollars at the very least. Oh, you meant wins versus losses.
The value of a SS over a CF/RF, and a guy who in his prime you could
pencilSharpie into the lineup.I don't know. What is 8 years of Jason Bartlett worth?
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