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Tuesday, February 09, 2010

FanGraphs: Carruth: Fastball Losses

As Mrs. Delaviour (French for dicknose) said to me in high school…“You’re the most negative person I’ve ever met.” So…to answer that here’s the Fastball Gains.

Looking at the list from the other end, however – that is, from the pitchers that lost the most speed on average on their fastballs – produces more starters. Whether because starters will get more innings even when injured, a usual byproduct of diminished fastball speed, or some other cause is open for speculation, but the results are definitely interesting.

As promised, a list of the biggest drops in fastball speed from 2009 to 2008. A minimum of 50 innings pitched in each season was needed to qualify.

Joba Chamberlain, -2.5
Ervin Santana, -2.1
Ross Ohlendorf, -2
Jared Burton, -1.7
Tim Lincecum, -1.7
Daniel Cabrera, -1.7
Manny Delcarmen, -1.6
Chan Ho Park, -1.6
Brian Fuentes, -1.6
Jeremy Sowers, -1.5
Lance Cormier, -1.4
Chris Young, -1.4
Grant Balfour, -1.3
Mariano Rivera, -1.3
Tim Redding, -1.3
Oliver Perez, -1.2
Aaron Cook, -1.2
Kevin Gregg, -1.2
Kyle McClellan, -1.1
Aaron Heilman, -1
Repoz Posted: February 09, 2010 at 01:34 PM | 11 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. villageidiom Posted: February 09, 2010 at 02:05 PM (#3456722)
After the 2009 season Manny Delcarmen admitted to having hid an injury.

Anyone want to dig up reports on the others?

EDITed to translate into English.
   2. RB in NYC (Now with New Running Goal!) Posted: February 09, 2010 at 02:19 PM (#3456733)
Just eyeballing the list, Joba and Ohlendorf went from being at least partially relievers to almost exclusively starters.
   3. KingKaufman Posted: February 09, 2010 at 02:55 PM (#3456753)
Repoz, a teacher uttered the exact same words to me in high school. He was the cheerleading and student council advisor, actually, but that year they'd made him the journalism teacher, in charge of the school newspaper. Google "Prop 13."
   4. Repoz Posted: February 09, 2010 at 03:25 PM (#3456785)
a teacher uttered the exact same words to me in high school.

I took her astute appraisal the only way I could...then I buried her in a shallow grave covered it with leaves that was soon found by a man walking his dog or a boy scout searching for arrowheads.
   5. RMc's grumbling has gone far enough Posted: February 09, 2010 at 04:56 PM (#3456849)
At this rate, in another 40 years, Joba's fastball will slowly drift towards second base.
   6. Cris E Posted: February 09, 2010 at 05:06 PM (#3456860)
Not so: they'll put him on a 15 IP limit to slow the decline.
   7. KingKaufman Posted: February 09, 2010 at 06:00 PM (#3456932)
Coming from that bozo, I took it as a compliment.
   8. Al Kaline Trio Posted: February 09, 2010 at 09:05 PM (#3457195)
I'll bet some of these guys started throwing different fastball types like more 2 seamers and losing some MPH.
   9. Los Angeles ALBERT F. PUJOLS of Anaheim Posted: February 09, 2010 at 09:21 PM (#3457217)
I'd like to see what Santana's fastball was clocked at from May, when he came back from his injury and pitched like crap, and in August and September, when he was health and sporting a 3.18 ERA.
   10. Mat Gleason Posted: February 10, 2010 at 01:37 AM (#3457434)
Frayed ligament of Santana's healed great.
   11. tl; dr (Voxter) Posted: February 10, 2010 at 04:32 AM (#3457524)
Quoth Stiles (or his t-shirt, "What are you looking at, Delaviour?"
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