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Friday, August 08, 2008

Fanhouse: Nolan Ryan Says What We Are All Thinking Regarding Roger Clemens

Yea, but this is the same Nolan Ryan that told David Cone yesterday...that he wants all Ranger starters to go another inning or two per start next year. Wrestle with that, Hunter Hurley Harrison!

There’s no more simple way to put it than by saying that Nolan Ryan articulates very well what I think everyone believes is killing/did kill Roger Clemens’ reputation.

Nolan Ryan appeared today on Dan Patrick’s syndicated radio show and made it clear that he in no way supports the PED-denials of fellow Texan Roger Clemens (audio): “It’s just a shame that Roger has gotten caught up in this situation and he took the stance that he did and that so many things have come out ... that have cast a bad light on his career.

If you look at what happened with some of the other players (who used PEDs), they stepped up and said ‘hey, I did it, I knew it was wrong,’ and they asked for forgiveness and have gone on about their business. I think it’s just unfortunate Roger took the position that he did and that so much has come out about it.”

Repoz Posted: August 08, 2008 at 08:39 AM | 22 comment(s)
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   1. Shooty Is A One Man Legion Posted: August 08, 2008 at 09:00 AM (#2894937)
Does Nolan Ryan know what I'm thinking right now...
   2. Swoboda is freedom Posted: August 08, 2008 at 09:10 AM (#2894940)
Does Nolan Ryan know what I'm thinking right now...

Yes he does and you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
   3. Gambling Rent Czar Posted: August 08, 2008 at 09:19 AM (#2894944)
It’s just a shame ...that so many things have come out
It’s just a shame ... that they have cast a bad light on his career
I think it’s just unfortunate ... that so much has come out about it


I didn't read the full article, but i am guessing there is no mention of Tom House, or even the obvious question? ...I can't wait for that book. and I love Ryan. I do.

how come none of you media types that frequent this place, have never knocked on that door? It was a lot of strikeouts. Possibly even a record or three.
   4. Ryan Jones Posted: August 08, 2008 at 09:19 AM (#2894946)
If you look at what happened with some of the other players (who used PEDs), they stepped up and said ‘hey, I did it, I knew it was wrong,’ and they asked for forgiveness and have gone on about their business.


Doesn't this method only work if Clemens actually used PEDs. I admit that I think he did, and that I believe the evidence points towards his use of PEDs, but why should he apologize if he didn't use them (or didn't knowingly use them)?

Besides, with the other guys who have admitted, we've been subjected to a steady stream of "I only used them once", or non-apologies like Giambi's "I'm sorry for some unspecified incident", with no critical analysis as to the accuracy of the players claims against their alleged use.
   5. Gambling Rent Czar Posted: August 08, 2008 at 09:23 AM (#2894950)
full radio interview here
   6. Shooty Is A One Man Legion Posted: August 08, 2008 at 09:29 AM (#2894953)
Does Nolan Ryan know what I'm thinking right now...

Yes he does and you ought to be ashamed of yourself.


You're just mad that you aren't the one between the donkey and Julia Child.
   7. Gambling Rent Czar Posted: August 08, 2008 at 09:32 AM (#2894955)
with no critical analysis as to the accuracy of the players claims against their alleged use.
like say Sammy Sosa?
   8. Ryan Jones Posted: August 08, 2008 at 09:40 AM (#2894962)
like say Sammy Sosa?


Like Sosa (no evidence yet), like Pettitte, like Giambi, like Palmeiro & Tejada ("contaminated" B12), like Mike Cameron (amps, rather than HGH/steroids), like Greg Zaun (the cheque was to pay off a bet), and like almost all the others.

The only players for who there have been serious investigations and analysis of claims are Clemens and Bonds, and even these are far from perfect.
   9. Lassus Posted: August 08, 2008 at 09:55 AM (#2894970)
You're just mad that you aren't the one between the donkey and Julia Child.

As opposed to you, or Nolan?

You know, I once prank-called Julia Child. True story. We figured no better time existed to do the "Is your refridgerator running?" classic. Sadly, she hung up without answering.
   10. David Nieporent (now, with child) Posted: August 08, 2008 at 10:07 AM (#2894979)
Doesn't this method only work if Clemens actually used PEDs. I admit that I think he did, and that I believe the evidence points towards his use of PEDs, but why should he apologize if he didn't use them (or didn't knowingly use them)?
Don't be stupid. Of course he used PEDs; he was accused, wasn't he?

You can't deny guilt; that's just a sign of guilt.
   11. Gromit Posted: August 08, 2008 at 10:22 AM (#2894995)
So that's where it ended up. When can I have my donkey back? I have a waiting list for it.
   12. Ray DiPerna Posted: August 08, 2008 at 10:50 AM (#2895027)
Andy Pettitte made one simple, semi-humble admission to using steroids, took his single lash of the belt, cried a little and then shut his mouth and played baseball. No one cares about his mistakes anymore.


Tee. Hee.
   13. Hit by Pitch Posted: August 08, 2008 at 11:24 AM (#2895066)
"then shut his mouth and played baseball."

Didn't he rat out his buddy before he actually shut his mouth?
   14. The Good Face Posted: August 08, 2008 at 11:26 AM (#2895070)
You're just mad that you aren't the one between the donkey and Julia Child.

As opposed to you, or Nolan?

You know, I once prank-called Julia Child. True story. We figured no better time existed to do the "Is your refridgerator running?" classic. Sadly, she hung up without answering.


This thread delivers! RDF.
   15. RMc is the President of the United States Posted: August 08, 2008 at 01:40 PM (#2895213)
Nolan Ryan Says What We Are All Thinking Regarding Roger Clemens

"Damn, Rog, you nailed that singer chick when she was just 15? Sweet!"
   16. tedz chillin hed Posted: August 08, 2008 at 01:42 PM (#2895216)
Back in the 60's when everyone else was doing LSD and trippin with the Beatles, Julia Child was injecting beef gravy into Wolfgang Puck's butt. (Or is it the other way around?) Look at her pre 1968 Tacoma County Cook Off pix and then the 1969 Altoona Pie Festival shot that was on the cover of TIME. Her neck and head are noticibly bigger and, when she takes off the elbow guard, the veins on her forearm are like steel cables. Nixon asked congress to look into it, but somehow the country lost focus and got stuck on that Nam and Watergate crap. Like that mattered.
   17. Harris Posted: August 08, 2008 at 03:19 PM (#2895430)
Child was injecting beef gravy into Wolfgang Puck's butt. (Or is it the other way around?)


You mean beef gravy was injecting Wolfgang Puck's butt into Julia Child? That doesn't make any sense at all....
   18. what the hell, just use your initials or something Posted: August 08, 2008 at 03:32 PM (#2895458)
Her neck and head are noticibly bigger...

I'm pretty sure that's a goiter.
   19. tedz chillin hed Posted: August 08, 2008 at 04:45 PM (#2895699)
Wolfgang's Child was injecting beef pucks into Julia's Butt.
   20. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 08, 2008 at 05:33 PM (#2895862)
Nolan Ryan was 100% pure Advil, baby.
   21. pkb33 Posted: August 08, 2008 at 11:42 PM (#2896323)
Doesn't this method only work if Clemens actually used PEDs. I admit that I think he did, and that I believe the evidence points towards his use of PEDs, but why should he apologize if he didn't use them (or didn't knowingly use them)?

Besides, with the other guys who have admitted, we've been subjected to a steady stream of "I only used them once", or non-apologies like Giambi's "I'm sorry for some unspecified incident", with no critical analysis as to the accuracy of the players claims against their alleged use.


None of them were stupid enough to have a press conference and file a defamation suit either. And other than Palmeiro, none of them gave false testimony under oath to Congress, either. That sort of matters when you're discussing the reaction to it, seems to me.

Unless, of course, you're like the dude around here who refuses to read anything that suggests Clemens did something wrong, that is.
   22. Please don't tell Phil Coorey to do the math Posted: August 09, 2008 at 02:56 AM (#2896356)
Gareth: All right then Einstein if you're so clever, what am I thinking about now?
Tim: You're thinking how could I kill a tiger armed only with a biro?
Gareth: No.
Tim: You're thinking if I crash land in the jungle can I survive by eating my own shoes?
Gareth: No and no you can't.
Tim: What are you thinking Gareth?
Gareth: "I was thinking will there ever be a boy born who can swim faster then a shark?



Thats all i am thinking about reading this thread...
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