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Wednesday, July 25, 2007

FJM: Even at 100 RBI, A-Rod Yet to Earn Stripes

Dunkirk sends along this takedown of a Mike Lupica article…

Rodriguez should win a third MVP award this season whether the Yankees make the playoffs or not. And when that happens, when he is voted the most valuable in his league again, it is game on. It is game on because the Yankees will then have to decide just how valuable Alex Rodriguez is to them.

Oh—is this the problem? You think they don’t know how valuable he is to them? I can take care of this quickly. You should look at that WARP3 stat. That will tell you. Alternately, you could go here and look at his WARP1 stat, which is not projected out for the whole season like WARP3, and see that he has already been worth a pretty ####### important 7.5 wins to the Yankees. Which means:

2007 Yankees, with ARod: 52-46
2007 Yankees, with no ARod, and some scrub playing third, like 2000 Scott Brosius: 47-51
2007 Yankees with a AAA guy playing 3rd: 44.5 - 53.5

And that is just ARod’s WARP1 through July 23 versus Brosius’s WARP1 for the whole year.

Repoz Posted: July 25, 2007 at 02:10 PM | 19 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: July 25, 2007 at 02:20 PM (#2454665)
why bother?
   2. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: July 25, 2007 at 02:21 PM (#2454670)
Once you COUNT DA RINGZZZZ BAYBEEE!!!11!!!11!1 it's obvious Brosius is a True Yankee while A-Rod is still a pretender.
   3. RB in NYC (Now with New Running Goal!) Posted: July 25, 2007 at 02:22 PM (#2454672)
why bother?
Well, there's the barrell. The fish are in it. The shotgun is leaning up aganist it. You might as well blast away.
   4. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: July 25, 2007 at 02:25 PM (#2454674)
2004: Lose in the ALCS to the Red Sox, blowing a 3-0 lead in the process, the most epic calamity in the history of the organization.

Oh come on. Wouldn't Thurman Munson dying or Carl Mays killing Ray Chapman be bigger calamities?
   5. Gambling Rent Czar Posted: July 25, 2007 at 02:26 PM (#2454675)
Must be a Star Wars convention in town?

oh yeah wait, isn't this weekend 'ComicCon' at the San Diego Convention Center, I will just warp7 right on over there.
   6. Sir Stamford Raffles Posted: July 25, 2007 at 02:29 PM (#2454682)
Well, there's the barrell. The fish are in it. The shotgun is leaning up aganist it. You might as well blast away.


And the fish are huge and the barrel is fish-sized and the shotgun fires special fish-seeking bullets.

Oh come on. Wouldn't Thurman Munson dying or Carl Mays killing Ray Chapman be bigger calamities?


Or Del Webb's teardown of the organization when he was trying to sell it. Or bringing on board Carl Pavano.
   7. Best Regards, Larry Mahnken (Dewey is a slacker) Posted: July 25, 2007 at 02:42 PM (#2454695)
Actually, the Yankees do have to figure out exactly how valuable A-Rod is to them. If they feel they can improve themselves by spending the $30 million or whatever on other players instead of A-Rod, then that's what they'll do. So they have to figure out how much A-Rod is worth, and how much equivalent value spread over other parts of the roster would cost them on the market.
   8. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: July 25, 2007 at 02:59 PM (#2454713)
Well, there's the barrell. The fish are in it. The shotgun is leaning up aganist it. You might as well blast away.

Just don't act so surprised when you wind up drenched in fish guts.
   9. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: July 25, 2007 at 03:06 PM (#2454724)
Oh come on. Wouldn't Thurman Munson dying or Carl Mays killing Ray Chapman be bigger calamities?

Or Del Webb's teardown of the organization when he was trying to sell it


Or Del Webb getting conked with that pop foul in Brooklyn that cost the Yanks the 55 Series. We always told him to use two hands, but oh, no, you couldn't tell that to Del F*ck*ng Webb.
   10. SandyRiver Posted: July 25, 2007 at 03:23 PM (#2454752)
Quite the rant, and on target, though ARod doesn't get a pass for 2004 LCS. After his 3rd inning hr gave the Yanks a 2-0 lead in G4, his line was 438/500/941. From then on it was 067/263/067, and of course he didn't do much in 05 or 06 postseason.
Also true is that he was much of the reason that his team HAD that 3-0 lead in games (and 2-0 in G4), and his poor hitting thereafter only mirrored the rest of that 2004 team. He's merely the biggest target (best player/most $$) and mediots and others just can't resist potshots.
   11. Dan Szymborski Posted: July 25, 2007 at 03:29 PM (#2454766)
2007 Yankees, with no ARod, and some scrub playing third, like 2000 Scott Brosius: 47-51
2007 Yankees with a AAA guy playing 3rd: 44.5 - 53.5


Brosius probably wasn't 25 runs better than a little leaguer that year, let alone a AAA guy.
   12. Big Train Posted: July 25, 2007 at 04:07 PM (#2454827)
Yanks a 2-0 lead in G4, his line was 438/500/941. From then on it was 067/263/067, and of course he didn't do much in 05 or 06 postseason.

I mean, there is selective endpoints, and there are extremely selective endpoints.
   13. Moneyball can't buy you love (Joey B.) Posted: July 25, 2007 at 04:12 PM (#2454838)
Assuming that they do want him to come back, they need to try and figure out now only how valuable he is to them, but how valuable they think he is to the other teams that realistically could sign him to a new contract.

And that is no easy feat when you're dealing with a true grandmaster of spin and manipulation like Scott Boras.
   14. villainx Posted: July 25, 2007 at 04:12 PM (#2454839)
But if the Yankees don't sign him, us fans don't get to boo him when he has a really, really good season, rather than a great season. Or at least don't get to boo him as often. So unfair.
   15. SoSH U at work Posted: July 25, 2007 at 04:23 PM (#2454857)
What a pointless piece of crap this was (the FJM piece). It's largely based on the misleading headline and a misreading of the premise (as Larry noted, the Yankees do have to figure out how much Arod is worth to them). I'm no fan of Lupica, but this rant was worthless.
   16. zonk Posted: July 25, 2007 at 04:42 PM (#2454885)
What I find so astounding about A-Rod's suckiness is that it's even negated Jeter's awesome clutchness. The Yanks even brought proven winner Andy Pettite back - and it STILL hasn't overcome A-Rod's intangible ineptitude.

I don't understand why the Yankees don't just DFA A-Rod already.
   17. Rear Admiral Piazza Posted: July 25, 2007 at 04:49 PM (#2454898)
Luis Sojo is 12,000 times the Yankee A-Rod is!
   18. G.W.O. Posted: July 25, 2007 at 04:51 PM (#2454900)
If they feel they can improve themselves by spending the $30 million or whatever on other players instead of A-Rod, then that's what they'll do.
No. They'll spend $30 million on A-Rod, and different $30 million on those other players.
   19. Gambling Rent Czar Posted: July 25, 2007 at 05:08 PM (#2454925)
Go west young man .. Go West!
Both LA teams need a third baseman. Your esteemed agent Mr.Boras knows this, he has season tickets for Christs sake.

Go West 8-Rod. Go West.

Here we condone sun-taning in the park, and weekly sit downs with therapists.
Come to think of it, I am pretty sure that most cities have laws requiring a therapist and sunbathing.

we will take you with open arms.

go west
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