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Saturday, September 20, 2008

Four ejected for fighting as Indians top Tigers

Violent Is the Word for Gary.

Gary Sheffield was still plenty angry—though much more in control after the Detroit Tigers endured a ninth-inning loss.

Sheffield was one of two players from both teams ejected during a seventh-inning brawl before Jamey Carroll hit a game-winning single with one out in the ninth to give the Cleveland Indians a 6-5 win over the Tigers on Friday night.

...“Just because he’s upset somebody else hit a home run, don’t take it out on me,” Sheffield said. “Anytime you do that, we’re going to have problems, before the game, after the game, whatever you want to do.”

Carmona threw to first on a pickoff attempt. Sheffield motioned, yelled, then charged at him. “He gestured and I was like, ‘Throw the ball to home plate,’ “Sheffield said. “He called me out. He gestured come on, and I’m coming.”

...Sheffield sat calmly at his locker as he spoke, but seemed most irritated at Martinez.

“His act is tired,” Sheffield said of Victor Martinez. “All that macho, throwing your equipment off. All this stuff. Trust me. He doesn’t want any of this. Trust me. If he does, just let me know, man to man and I guarantee he wouldn’t want any more.”

...Sheffield claimed Carmona has hit him three times this year.

“Three strikes and you’re out,” Sheffield said. “And if it’s number four, it gets more violent. Trust me.”

Repoz Posted: September 20, 2008 at 12:01 AM | 13 comment(s)
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   1. Brandon in MO (for America!) Posted: September 20, 2008 at 12:14 AM (#2948449)
Since when did people start charging the mound from first base?
   2. Walt Davis Posted: September 20, 2008 at 12:20 AM (#2948452)
Sheffield claimed Carmona has hit him three times this year.

And you can't expect journalists to, y'know, like check that out or anything.

Anyway, Carmona has hit him with a pitch once this year. He may have brushed him back or pegged him at first I suppose. Didn't hit him last year.
   3. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: September 20, 2008 at 12:31 AM (#2948454)
Carmona sometimes takes on Wakefieldian forms.
   4. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 20, 2008 at 12:35 AM (#2948456)
Since when did people start charging the mound from first base?

At least since 1987, when Willie Wilson set the standard for a batter absolutely creaming the pitcher who'd thrown at him. After rounding first base, Wilson charged the mound-- unobserved by the pitcher. He hit Ken Schrom so hard that, to quote "Diner," he killed his whole family.
   5. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: September 20, 2008 at 12:38 AM (#2948458)
After rounding first base, Wilson charged the mound-


Didn't Al Cowens do that to Ed Farmer around 1980?
   6. Shibal Posted: September 20, 2008 at 12:47 AM (#2948464)
Cowen's didn't bother running to first, he went straight for the mound. He should have taken the bat with him after the #### Farmer pulled.
   7. bads85 Posted: September 20, 2008 at 12:55 AM (#2948469)
“All that macho, throwing your equipment off. All this stuff. Trust me. He doesn’t want any of this. Trust me. If he does, just let me know, man to man and I guarantee he wouldn’t want any more.”


Strong talk from a guy who was in a hockey headlock, getting pounded.
   8. 44magnum Posted: September 20, 2008 at 01:00 AM (#2948470)
Cowen's didn't bother running to first, he went straight for the mound. He should have taken the bat with him after the #### Farmer pulled.

I've been looking for that game for the longest time--assuming it was after an HBP. Cowens was with the Tigers then, right? Cowens and Farmer had a history. Years ago, I emailed Dave Smith of Retrosheet asking about late 70's Royals-Rangers game in which Jim Kern broke Frank Whites wrist and Al Cowens jaw. He emailed me back the box and let me know it was Farmer not Kern. Anyway, it was the 2nd MLB game I remember attending and quite odd to see 2 different ambulances come out from behind the RF wall at beautiful Arlington Stadium.
   9. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 20, 2008 at 01:21 AM (#2948473)
Cowens was hit and injured by Farmer in May 1979. He went after Farmer in June 1980.

Who was the batter who inexplicably slammed into Dennis Eckersley while he was covering home plate, as retaliation for an incident many years beforehand? The guy explained the delay by saying that it was the first chance he'd had to get at him.
   10. Darren Posted: September 20, 2008 at 08:13 AM (#2948486)
Ho hum, just Gary being Gary. I suppose we should all laud him for his restraint.
   11. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: September 20, 2008 at 09:18 AM (#2948496)
Funnt thing is that I thought Carmona was being smart in throwing over to first because it was clear Sheffield was so upset. Maybe he'd catch him napping or something and get a free out because he was so distracted.
   12. bunyon Posted: September 20, 2008 at 09:25 AM (#2948499)
Who was the batter who inexplicably slammed into Dennis Eckersley while he was covering home plate, as retaliation for an incident many years beforehand? The guy explained the delay by saying that it was the first chance he'd had to get at him.

It's my impression this used to be commonplace. Drag a bunt down the first base line and cream the pitcher as he fields. If he doesn't field, you reach. It's certainly more effective to run into the guy while he's attempting to do his job than to yell and charge from 50 or 60 feet away, giving him a chance to get ready.
   13. Shibal Posted: September 20, 2008 at 09:41 AM (#2948504)
Interesting story 28 years ago from the SI vault

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1123590/4/index.htm
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