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FOX: Rosenthal - Dodgers join Brewers in pursuit of Sabathia

The Brewers aren’t the only team pushing hard for Indians left-hander C.C. Sabathia. The Dodgers also are heavily in the mix, according to major-league sources.

However, the Dodgers’ bid for Sabathia is complicated by their pursuit of Pirates shortstop Jack Wilson as a replacement for the injured Rafael Furcal, sources say. To get Wilson, the Dodgers would need to trade the Pirates some of the same players that the Indians want for Sabathia, leaving Los Angeles with a choice of one deal or the other.
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While the Dodgers might not offer a prospect better than Brewers Class AA left fielder Matt LaPorta, their proposal for Sabathia would include three players, sources say. Class AA right-hander James McDonald, Class AAA shortstop Chin-Lung Hu and third baseman Andy LaRoche are among the Dodgers’ prospects likely drawing consideration form the Indians.
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By acquiring Wilson, the Dodgers would signal that they might not intend to keep Furcal, whom they probably consider too big of a physical risk to re-sign as a free agent.

NTNgod Posted: July 04, 2008 at 08:22 PM | 29 comment(s)
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1. JoeHova Posted: July 04, 2008 at 08:36 PM (#2843788)

Anytime you can get Jack Wilson instead of CC Sabathia, you make that move.

2. alex perros gives up the ghost Posted: July 04, 2008 at 08:58 PM (#2843823)

Jack Wilson -- that should just about sew up a playoff spot.

Andy LaRoche, been nice knowin' ya. Have fun playing alongside your brother.

3. OCD SS Posted: July 04, 2008 at 09:07 PM (#2843834)

I wonder if the Dodgers would like another go around at Julio Lugo in lieu of Wilson? The Sox would probably not want too much and then the Dodgers would still be able to go after Sabathia!

What, you're not buying it?

4. Crispix Attacks Posted: July 04, 2008 at 09:10 PM (#2843838)

Wow, with three starters who've finished in the top 3 of Cy Young voting this decade, plus Kershaw, plus Billingsley, plus snagging the #1 Japanese import pitcher, I bet the Dodgers weren't expecting to be in this sort of market at the beginning of July. This never would have happened if Brad Penny were still alive.

Where are you Randy Wolf?

[EDIT: Actually, they have FOUR starters who've finished in the top 4 of Cy Young voting this decade. Though not much is expected of Loaiza, compared to Lowe, Penny, and Schmidt if he was healthy.]

5. Bob T Posted: July 04, 2008 at 09:15 PM (#2843848)

Loaiza is on the White Sox.

6. Justin T Posted: July 04, 2008 at 09:16 PM (#2843849)

Oh my, the idea that the Dodgers are considering giving the Pirates the same types of players for Jack Wilson that they'd need for C.C. is awesome. Colletti is the man. Please happen.

7. alex perros gives up the ghost Posted: July 04, 2008 at 09:26 PM (#2843876)

Like the Dodgers team, particularly Martin and Loney, but glad I'm not a fan.

Where are you Randy Wolf?

Giving up 20 runs in his last 17 innings of work with the Padres.

8. SouthSideRyan Posted: July 04, 2008 at 09:41 PM (#2843924)

Go Dodgers!!

9. Robert S. Posted: July 04, 2008 at 09:54 PM (#2843957)

Stephen Drew for Matt Kemp.

10. Darren Posted: July 04, 2008 at 09:55 PM (#2843959)

They do really need Lugo's smarts on the bases. We'll even take Nomar back to offset the costs.

11. Crispix Attacks Posted: July 04, 2008 at 09:57 PM (#2843960)

Whoops. Well, Loaiza was on the Dodgers at the beginning of the season, which is what I meant but failed to write anyway.

12. JuanGone..except1game Posted: July 04, 2008 at 10:13 PM (#2843982)

Am I crazy, but why not just add Broxton and we'll put Jhhhhonny in the deal as well. That way the Dodgers don't have to waste top prospects on Wilson and can instead waste top prospects on Jhhhonny. Seems like a win-win for Colletti and me.

13. Rough Carrigan Posted: July 04, 2008 at 11:29 PM (#2844066)

What, again, was it that seemed to indicate that Ned Colletti was the man for the job of Dodgers GM?

14. Crispix Attacks Posted: July 04, 2008 at 11:33 PM (#2844068)

The interview consisted of one question: "Would you be willing to hire Mike Scioscia as manager, even if he was already the manager of the Angels?" He gave the right answer.

15. Justin T Posted: July 04, 2008 at 11:34 PM (#2844071)

McCourt: Are you a Windows or a Mac guy?

Colletti: Huh?

McCourt: Welcome aboard.

16. PH Posted: July 04, 2008 at 11:45 PM (#2844072)

What, again, was it that seemed to indicate that Ned Colletti was the man for the job of Dodgers GM?

Plaschke said snakeskin boots played a prominent part.

17. s.zielinski Posted: July 05, 2008 at 12:45 AM (#2844086)

Jack Flash has played well since 7/07 and he came to believe that his time in Pittsburgh would end soon. More importantly, he'd bleed blue forever if traded to the Dodgers.

18. Gambling Rent Czar Posted: July 05, 2008 at 03:26 AM (#2844125)

Eckstein would look good in Dodger Blue, and is available. Eckstein knows how to win.
He was a World Series MVP you know.

19. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: July 05, 2008 at 06:51 AM (#2844148)

If Julio Lugo tried to hit Mia Hamm she'd kick his ass.

20. VegasRobb Posted: July 05, 2008 at 07:29 AM (#2844152)

Geez, what are they giving up for Wilson? Shouldn't take all that much to get him.

21. Esoteric can feel Strasburg slowly slipping away Posted: July 06, 2008 at 04:42 PM (#2845872)

Okay, if I'm Jim Bowden, I'm asking myself why Ned Coletti isn't next on my hit-list of "GMs who I've swindled and who have subsequently lost their jobs." Krivsky, Bavasi, with Minaya perhaps due next. Coletti's damn near the last moron left on the list. My point is that Bowden ought to be trying to sell them on Cristian Guzman (.315/.342/.432, OPS+ of 104), who is putting up a better season than Wilson (.312/.351/.369, OPS+ of 94), is younger, and has a similar contract situation. Sure, Wilson has one more year on his contract (plus a club option), but Guzman is cheaper and could probably be signed for even less than the $4 million he's making as is. Defense? Wilson may be a flashy glove man, but Guzman's 2008 RZR of .842 is identical to Wilson's. And his OOZ rating of 30 is twice as good as Wilson's at 15.

Dammit Jimbo, make it happen. Use whatever bamboozle-whammy it is you laid on Krivsky, Minaya and Bavasi and get Loney or Kemp from Coletti.

22. With 17th Pick, From LA, 1k5v3L KcoLLoP Posted: July 06, 2008 at 05:11 PM (#2845912)

Geez, what are they giving up for Wilson? Shouldn't take all that much to get him.

Kershaw for Wilson! And Colletti's making out like a thief

23. retro-shiite Posted: July 06, 2008 at 05:20 PM (#2845925)

So what'll it take for the Cubs to get Harden or Burnett?

24. npurcell Posted: July 06, 2008 at 05:45 PM (#2845963)

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I can see Colletti trading for Guzman but its hilarious to think you are going to get anyone on the big league team.

25. Brandon in MO (Fire Trey Hillman) Posted: July 06, 2008 at 06:00 PM (#2845979)

Good thing that the Dodgers are looking to get a big hitter for the stretch drive.

26. Mike Emeigh Posted: July 06, 2008 at 06:11 PM (#2845997)

I imagine that Hu is a big part of both the proposed Sabathia deal and the proposed Wilson deal. It's no particular secret that the Indians are no longer enamored of Peralta and that they would like to get a young SS. I'd guess James McDonald would have to go in either of those deals, as well. The main question is what else the Dodgers would have to give up for Sabathia. Hu and McDonald would probably be enough for Wilson.

-- MWE

27. Esoteric can feel Strasburg slowly slipping away Posted: July 06, 2008 at 06:15 PM (#2846000)

I can see Colletti trading for Guzman but its hilarious to think you are going to get anyone on the big league team.

Jim Bowden has gotten GMs to agree to crazier deals. I think you're right, but I wouldn't put it entirely past him.

28. npurcell Posted: July 06, 2008 at 06:19 PM (#2846006)

Hu and McDonald would probably be enough for Wilson.

You mean... too much?

29. alex perros gives up the ghost Posted: July 06, 2008 at 06:35 PM (#2846031)

Some boob calling in on the radio yesterday suggested getting LaRoche, Kemp AND Kershaw for Sabathia.

My guess is that the Dodgers will wait to target Sabathia on the FA market.

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