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A catch-all thread for last minute trade news. Please post any rumors that haven’t already hit the MSM.

UPDATE:

Updated 4:28 p.m.: Manny traded to Dodgers

Manny Ramirez has been traded to the Dodgers in a three-team blockbuster, pending the approval of the commissioner’s office, according to a source with knowledge of the deal.

Pirates outfielder Jason Bay is headed to the Red Sox. The Pirates will receive Andy LaRoche and right-hander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers and outfielder Brandon Moss and releiver Craig Hansen from the Red Sox.

The Red Sox will pay all of the approximately $7 million remaining on Ramirez’s contract.

Jim Furtado Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:20 PM | 377 comment(s)
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101. Best Regards, Larry Mahnken Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:34 PM (#2884700)

Peter Abraham is reporting that the Bay to Tampa Bay deal is done.

102. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:35 PM (#2884704)

How hard is to find a stopgap at catcher though? Miguel Olivo is available this winter.

Oh boy, THE Miguel Olivo!

Seriously, the Giants like how Molina handles their young pitchers and he's a decent value at $6M. They're not interested in trading him for a marginal prospect or two.

103. Guapo Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:37 PM (#2884709)

Will Jason change his first name to "Tampa"?

104. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:37 PM (#2884711)

Will Jason change his first name to "Tampa"?

You win.

105. RB in NYC (Now with Resolutions!) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:38 PM (#2884715)

Will Jason change his first name to "Tampa"?

We figured this out earlier. He's now Jason Ray Bay or the Tampa Bay Rays

106. Cowboy Popup Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:38 PM (#2884716)

I've insisted on dating both the Olsen twins for a couple of years.

Eww, really? They're kinda creepy looking.

107. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:38 PM (#2884719)

I'm surprised the Rays didn't try to involve the M's and Brewers and make this a monster 4 way trade. The Rays GM has nothing on Theo when it comes to trade deadline drama

108. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:38 PM (#2884720)

Will Jason change his first name to "Tampa"?

He should change it to "Devil."

109. zonk Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:39 PM (#2884721)

It's stupid to say that, just because the Rays have a loaded system, they should give more for Bay than the absolute bare minimum needed to acquire him. If they can get him for Niemann and Brignac, why should they include Davis or Price or anyone else? Just because they have them?

Well, like I said -- good for the Rays for getting what they needed for what they did.

I'm just saying that the Pirates should have forced the Rays to blink and either added a 3rd prospect, or, swapped Niemann for Davis.

Were I working the deal from the Pirates end, I absolutely would have been saying precisely what I said in this thread: We have exactly, perfectly, and precisely what you need... you have a surplus of young pitching talent -- we won't bother asking for your best, but we're going to insist on your second best.

If they held out, I'd have scuttled the deal.

110. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:39 PM (#2884724)

Peter Abraham is reporting that the Bay to Tampa Bay deal is done.

Tough week for the Sawx, no? I still think they'll pull out a playoff spot.

111. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:39 PM (#2884725)

Eww, really? They're kinda creepy looking.

Yeah, but they come 2 for the price of 1

112. Jim Wisinski is waiting till next year Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:39 PM (#2884726)

Why are the Reds hanging on to Dunn?

Doesn't seem to be much interest. The Rays seemed most interested as of yesterday but that seems more like they were using that as leverage against the Pirates while the Pirates were messing around with that three-team deal.

113. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:39 PM (#2884727)

This rumors blog is the least Robothal has ever written at any time of the day or year since he was born.

114. Cowboy Popup Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:40 PM (#2884728)

Yeah, but they come 2 for the price of 1

Fair enough, you probably don't even have to buy them dinner.

115. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:40 PM (#2884729)

I'm just saying that the Pirates should have forced the Rays to blink and either added a 3rd prospect, or, swapped Niemann for Davis.

Were I working the deal from the Pirates end, I absolutely would have been saying precisely what I said in this thread: We have exactly, perfectly, and precisely what you need... you have a surplus of young pitching talent -- we won't bother asking for your best, but we're going to insist on your second best.

If they held out, I'd have scuttled the deal.

It's a shame the Pirates didn't have the brains to hire you yesterday. They sure could use more cowbell in that front office.

116. zonk Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:40 PM (#2884730)

Heh...

Rotoworld snark:

The Jays would probably be willing to part with Stairs if they traded for Raul Ibanez. Stairs is owed about about $800,000 this year and $1 million next year, so the Marlins would probably ask for $5 million or so to take him.

117. Monty Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:41 PM (#2884731)

He's now Jason Ray Bay or the Tampa Bay Rays

...but you doesn't have to call him Johnson!

Hah? Anybody? Ray Jay Johnson? Aw, forget it.

118. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:42 PM (#2884733)

If they held out, I'd have scuttled the deal.

Why does it matter what Niemann is ranked within the Rays' system? The Pirates got a nice return here.

119. jmurph Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:42 PM (#2884735)

The Rays GM has nothing on Theo when it comes to trade deadline drama

Levski, what's the angle? Is it the Schilling deal? Or just Kevin, etc.?

120. Dan Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:43 PM (#2884741)

Just levski being levski.

121. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:44 PM (#2884745)

"Why does it matter what Niemann is ranked within the Rays' system? The Pirates got a nice return here."

Khalil Greene and Ben McDonald is a nice return? Blah.

122. AJM Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:45 PM (#2884749)

Yeah, but they come 2 for the price of 1

"Two pizzas for the price of one at Doughies!"

"Doughies has terrible pizza."

"Yeah, but there's two!"

123. zonk Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:46 PM (#2884751)

It's a shame the Pirates didn't have the brains to hire you yesterday.

Then we agree on something after all.

They sure could use more cowbell in that front office.

The Pirates problem - well, one among many of their problems - for the last 5 years or so has been that they "settle" on nominal upgrades. I'm simply saying that a wise strategy might be to stop "settling".

124. The Joe Mauer Power Hour (kj) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:46 PM (#2884752)

Heyman reports L.A. has taken Ethier out of the Manny talks.

Source

125. Cowboy Popup Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:46 PM (#2884755)

Levski, what's the angle?

<Micheal Caine>Some people just want to watch the world burn</Alfred>

126. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:47 PM (#2884758)

I just love watching the Red Sox go through the same dance with Manny every year. I think Theo's up against the wall with Manny, trying to move him without sacrificing the future in terms of prospects or the present in terms of pop in the outfield. Honestly, if Theo couldn't move Manny this year (and there are still 15 minutes or so), no GM in the game can. But that doesn't make all the trade deadline drama surrounding the Red Sox any less enjoyable to watch

127. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:48 PM (#2884763)

Heyman reports L.A. has taken Ethier out of the Manny talks.

Manny for Andruw Jones!

128. jcallicutt Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:49 PM (#2884764)

...but you doesn't have to call him Johnson!

Hah? Anybody? Ray Jay Johnson? Aw, forget it.

I named my first puppy Mr. Johnson waay back in 1978, so yeah, I get it.

129. Insert clever/punny handle here (oi!) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:49 PM (#2884765)

<Micheal Caine>Some people just want to watch the world burn</Alfred>

You left an open tag there, Cowboy.

130. Sam M. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:49 PM (#2884766)

Is this what we're reduced to, people? Jokes about the fact that Jason and Tampa both have the same last name? Come on, now. Important things are happening here -- the Mets might get Luis Ayala!!!!

OK . . . Flushing is a Bay, too, you know. Can we work that in, somehow?

131. zonk Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:49 PM (#2884769)

Why does it matter what Niemann is ranked within the Rays' system? The Pirates got a nice return here.

I would say because deadline trading isn't a blind proposition... If I'm a GM looking to move a quality -- even star quality -- player, I'm most certainly going to be aware of what my trading partner has to deal and also (as best I can) how he values what he has to deal.

The reports seems to indicate that the Pirates wanted Davis -- and I think it's also a given that most folks, be they posters here, analysts, scouts, etc -- would consider Davis the #2 pitching prospect in the Rays' system after the untouchable Price.

It's not so much a matter of where Niemann/Davis rank relative to each other - it's a matter of which one is more valuable... and I'm simply saying I'd have held out for Davis.

132. Dan Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:50 PM (#2884771)

Is this what we're reduced to, people? Jokes about the fact that Jason and Tampa both have the same last name? Come on, now. Important things are happening here -- the Mets might get Luis Ayala!!!!

It's not only that, but Bay's middle name is Ray(mond).

133. Cowboy Popup Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:50 PM (#2884772)

You left an open tag there, Cowboy.

Bah, telling jokes on the internet is so complicated.

134. Craig K Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:51 PM (#2884775)

So, is the Bay deal official?

135. The Joe Mauer Power Hour (kj) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:51 PM (#2884776)

It's not only that, but Bay's middle name is Ray(mond).

Revenue from t-shirt sales could pay for an extension all by itself.

136. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:52 PM (#2884778)

rotoworld

A high level Rays official denied that a deal for Jason Bay with the Pirates was done.

One lone MLB.com beat reporter is still the only one saying that a deal is done, while many others are saying talks are still ongoing. According to the previous report, Bay is on the way to Tampa Bay for Reid Brignac and Jeff Niemann.
Source: Tampa Tribune

zonk strikes with a vengeance!

137. Jim Wisinski is waiting till next year Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:52 PM (#2884782)

So, is the Bay deal official?

Nope.

138. Sam M. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:52 PM (#2884784)

Revenue from t-shirt sales could pay for an extension all by itself.

Or for that cool new stadium the Rays wanted to build (right on the Bay, of course) but have put on the back burner.

139. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:53 PM (#2884785)

It's not so much a matter of where Niemann/Davis rank relative to each other - it's a matter of which one is more valuable... and I'm simply saying I'd have held out for Davis.

Sure that's an interesting bargain strategy... but it should be a total non-factor when it comes to deciding whether to hold onto Jason Bay or trade him.

140. AJM Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:53 PM (#2884788)

According to ESPN's Jayson Stark the Mariners backed out of a Raul Ibanez trade that would have netted them two major leaguers from the Blue Jays.

Stark just said they were major leaguers. Something like David Purcey and Brandon League for Ibanez might have made sense. However, the talks are now dead, according to Stark.

141. zonk Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:54 PM (#2884789)

zonk strikes with a vengeance!

Well, you all pissed me off so much I just had to pick up the red phone. If you'll excuse me a moment, I have McClatchy on hold.

back in 5 minutes.

142. Tropical Storm Davis aka Quilvio "Ebola" Veras Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:54 PM (#2884790)

Two pizzas for the price of one at Doughies!"

"Doughies has terrible pizza."

"Yeah, but there's two!"

Is that pizza by Doughies, or Doughie's Pizza Cafe?

143. SJ and the pants of freedom. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:54 PM (#2884791)

Honestly, if Theo couldn't move Manny this year (and there are still 15 minutes or so), no GM in the game can.

Why do we think this? He has failed every time he has tried. For 5 seasons. And they handled the situation incredibly poorly and incredibly publically each time.

Someone else may have been able to get it done.

144. SJ and the pants of freedom. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:56 PM (#2884800)

ROBOTHAL just posted, saying the 3 team Manny deal is still on, and the Bay to the Bay deal is off "unless a miracle happens."

145. Jim Wisinski is waiting till next year Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:57 PM (#2884801)

If the Red Sox were truly determined to move Ramirez in the past few years they would have. They just haven't wanted to enough to make the sacrifices it would take.

146. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:57 PM (#2884802)

He has failed every time he has tried. For 5 seasons. And they handled the situation incredibly poorly and incredibly publically each time.

It's not that he can't be traded; it's that Theo hasn't been happy enough with the return to pull the trigger. It seems to have worked out just fine for Boston - publicity be damned.

147. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:57 PM (#2884803)

Someone else may have been able to get it done.

Ed Wade could have traded Manny for a bullpen in, like, 30 seconds.

148. jmurph Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:58 PM (#2884808)

Robo strikes again:

The three-way Manny Ramirez blockbuster may be back on, with Pirates outfielder Jason Bay headed to the Red Sox, sources say.

149. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:58 PM (#2884809)

Why do we think this? He has failed every time he has tried. For 5 seasons. And they handled the situation incredibly poorly and incredibly publically each time.

Someone else may have been able to get it done.

Not with LL on board! And Gammo whispering sweet lies in his ears. Theo was doomed by forced beyond his control. He never stood a chance. [never mind, maybe now he does]

150. The Joe Mauer Power Hour (kj) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:58 PM (#2884810)

ROBOTHAL just posted, saying the 3 team Manny deal is still on, and the Bay to the Bay deal is off "unless a miracle happens."

What on Earth are we going to do with 50,000 "Jason Ray Bay" t-shirts?

151. DKDC Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:59 PM (#2884813)

Did Theo cave on something?

152. AJM Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:59 PM (#2884815)

30 seconds!

153. RB in NYC (Now with Resolutions!) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:00 PM (#2884819)

Someone, either Darren or MCoA predicted that Theo would end up caving and giving up more of something, prospects I suspect. So points to them if that's how it worked out.

Edit: And mine is the first 4:00 PM post. Over!

154. Craig K Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:00 PM (#2884820)

over.

155. The Joe Mauer Power Hour (kj) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:00 PM (#2884824)

Did Theo cave on something?

I hope the Marlins thought better of their (reported) $2 million demand.

156. zonk Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:00 PM (#2884825)

but it should be a total non-factor when it comes to deciding whether to hold onto Jason Bay or trade him.

I guess part of the reason here is that I'm in the minority in thinking that the Pirates absolutely weren't in a position where they "had to" trade Bay. They're unfortunately looking up at two teams that are likely to be very good for the next 1-2-3 years -- but the Pirates aren't the hopeless franchise they were a few years ago. McLouth has emerged as legit star. The offensive holes have basically been reduced to SS/3B. The pitching has been downright awful, but I just cannot see Snell, Maholm, Gorzelanny, and Duke all continuing to suck at the rate they've sucked this season.

I'm not ready to say they're a darkhorse wildcard contender next year, but they're 8 games under in baseball's toughest top to bottom division.

I could see a legitimate argument to be made for keeping Bay, spinning the wheel on the first 3 months of 2009, then just trying again if lightning doesn't strike.

157. DKDC Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:00 PM (#2884828)

It's 4PM by my clock.

It could still be a little while before we hear if any deals snuck through.

158. Sam M. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:01 PM (#2884830)

Did Theo cave on something?

Nah -- he used the Dodger rumor to create the impression he had some leverage, and convince the others he couldn't be held up. Or he just waited them out, believing (maybe correctly) the Tampa rumor was just a feint by the Pirates to try to lure him into caving and sweetening the deal.

159. 1k5v3L, Useless

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:01 PM (#2884831)

It's 4 PM. Do you know where your outfielders are?

160. The Joe Mauer Power Hour (kj) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:02 PM (#2884832)

It could still be a little while before we hear if any deals snuck through.

If I recall correctly, it was pretty well past the deadline before the Nomar-Cabrera-Mientkiewicz deal hit the news. I'll wait patiently.

161. Dan Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:02 PM (#2884833)

No, I have no ####### clue where my outfielders are.

162. Carl Spongberg Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:02 PM (#2884834)

Don’t forget that the giant Nomar trade wasn’t announced until an hour afterwards.

163. aleskel

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:02 PM (#2884837)

pencils down

164. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:03 PM (#2884839)

Damn, now I have to go work till 9, and can't access the internet till I get back!

165. Guapo Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:03 PM (#2884841)

Congrats to the BTF server- I'm impressed you held up so well.

166. Repoz

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:03 PM (#2884842)

FLASH! Mark Kriegel is reporting that his book is still for sale.

167. Sam M. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:03 PM (#2884843)

The pitching has been downright awful, but I just cannot see Snell, Maholm, Gorzelanny, and Duke all continuing to suck at the rate they've sucked this season.

Then name a single pitcher whom the Pirates have ruined in recent years who has recovered anything like his promising early form -- at least one who did so without getting the hell out of Pittsburgh in order to do so. Until they get of there, I see little reason to believe any of them will return to form.

168. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:03 PM (#2884845)

I could see a legitimate argument to be made for keeping Bay, spinning the wheel on the first 3 months of 2009, then just trying again if lightning doesn't strike.

OK but can we agree that the existence of Wade Davis doesn't play into this?

169. Fred C. Dobbs Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:05 PM (#2884846)

wow oh WOW! What a deal!

170. zonk Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:05 PM (#2884847)

I give up.

Pull the friggin' trigger.

Bay for Niemann + Brignac.

What?

It's after 4 PM?

HA! I win.

171. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:05 PM (#2884848)

Gammons reports it's off, ESPN. No Manny move.

172. Where's Vince Lloyd Now That We Need Him?(sjs1959) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:06 PM (#2884852)

Gammons reports it's off, ESPN. No Manny move.

What about Bay to the Bay?

173. Phil Coorey Needs To Know How To Kill A Cat Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:06 PM (#2884853)

...and now every time Manny misplays a ball or strikes out - some knucklehead will accuse him of tanking.

Great

174. Dan Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:07 PM (#2884862)

So Griffey going to the White Sox was the biggest deadline deal? For real?

175. Sam M. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:08 PM (#2884863)

No Manny move.

So now the interesting question: who blinks??? Does Manny try to hold the Sox hostage by claiming his has an ouchie to get his way (tear up the options NOW)? Or do the Sox say they have a valuable asset in those options, and if Manny wants to claim he's hurt, they'll make him take enough X-rays to light him up like Three Mile Island?

176. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:08 PM (#2884864)

Teixeira

177. DKDC Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:08 PM (#2884865)

Will Carroll says:

Ibanez stays. Ohman stays. Manny stays. Bay stays. Everyone stays! Sit! Good dog!

So I'm assuming all of those guys were actually traded.

Only question is, where?

178. Fred C. Dobbs Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:09 PM (#2884870)

So Griffey going to the White Sox was the biggest deadline deal? For real?

Everyone always forgets about Kylie Farnsworth.

179. Mattbert Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:09 PM (#2884873)

So Griffey going to the White Sox was the biggest deadline deal? For real?

I think the biggest deal is the one that wasn't made.

Raul Ibanez is still in Seattle.

180. Dan Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:09 PM (#2884876)

I guess Teixeira is a bigger deal.

181. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:09 PM (#2884878)

Only question is, where?

Houston!

Ed Wade is gearing up!

182. Crispix Attacks is in the best shape of his life. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:10 PM (#2884881)

Then name a single pitcher whom the Pirates have ruined in recent years who has recovered anything like his promising early form -- at least one who did so without getting the hell out of Pittsburgh in order to do so.

To be fair, it's only recently that the Pirates have started having pitchers who had one good season and then became terrible. From 1995 to 2002 or so, their pitchers either suffered career-destroying injuries while still in the minors, or were never any good at all.

183. Sam M. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:10 PM (#2884882)

Everyone always forgets about Kylie Farnsworth.

Except Joe Torre. He can't forget. The lambs still scream.

184. Gamingboy Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:11 PM (#2884886)

Why do I get the feeling that noen of us, or any of the reporters, have a clue what the #### we're talking about and that a last-minute joke happened and that we all have been yapping about stuff.

185. Halofan Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:11 PM (#2884891)

If Manny really wants to screw the Sox, he can sign with Japan. Will the Red Sox get two picks in the Japanese draft that belong to the team that signs Manny for '09?

186. Fred C. Dobbs Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:12 PM (#2884895)

If Manny really wants to screw the Sox, he can sign with Japan. Will the Red Sox get two picks in the Japanese draft that belong to the team that signs Manny for '09?

Or that Greek basketball team.

187. Chase Utley, Shooty's Favorite Robot (Joey Belle) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:13 PM (#2884897)

Then name a single pitcher whom the Pirates have ruined in recent years who has recovered anything like his promising early form -- at least one who did so without getting the hell out of Pittsburgh in order to do so.

Ian Snell was looking good but then this year happened. There's still time for The Dukester isn't there? I mean he's The Dukester.

188. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:13 PM (#2884899)

Surprises for me on deadline day:

No trades for Oakland or San Fran, Seattle only dumping Rhodes. The Astros didn't pick up any more relievers besides Hawkins. Also, the Dodgers standing pat is odd. Casey Blake is their big move, I guess. Once again, a lot of smoke and little fire on deadline day. It still passes the work day away.

189. Sam M. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:13 PM (#2884901)

If Manny really wants to screw the Sox, he can sign with Japan.

Actually, he can't. He's not a FA because of those nasty little options. And the Japanese leagues recognize contractual rights held by U.S. clubs. But I think he could sign with Newark.

190. tribefan Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:14 PM (#2884904)

It still passes the work day away.

Amen to that.

191. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk

Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:15 PM (#2884910)

Astros claimed RHP Alberto Arias off waivers from the Colorado Rockies.

The 24-year-old posted a 2.63 ERA in 13 2/3 innings for the Rockies earlier this season, but had a 4.73 ERA in 45 2/3 innings at Triple-A. He had a 41/16 K/BB ratio in the minors, but he doesn't have a great shot at long-term success in the majors.

I spoke too soon about the Astros!

192. Sam M. Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:15 PM (#2884911)

And no trades still beats the hell out of deadline day, 2004.

193. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:16 PM (#2884915)

No trades for Oakland or San Fran, Seattle only dumping Rhodes. The Astros didn't pick up any more relievers besides Hawkins. Also, the Dodgers standing pat is odd. Casey Blake is their big move, I guess. Once again, a lot of smoke and little fire on deadline day. It still passes the work day away.

And Fuentes stays in Colorado.

194. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:16 PM (#2884916)

"If Manny really wants to screw the Sox, he can sign with Japan. Will the Red Sox get two picks in the Japanese draft that belong to the team that signs Manny for '09?"

They could try to extract a posting fee...

195. Russ Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:17 PM (#2884919)

And no trades still beats the hell out of deadline day, 2004.

Pirates fans to Sam M: Cry us a river.

196. PreservedFish Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:17 PM (#2884920)

Still laughing about this coincidental exchange on the first page, which I have edited so it reads the way I saw it:

51. Alex Gordon's #1 Fan Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:55 PM (#2884539)

Didn't Wayne Root play "Milton" in "Office Space"?

52. zonk Posted: July 31, 2008 at 02:56 PM (#2884541)

I'm pretty sure Ed Wade did...

197. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:19 PM (#2884926)

Edes on NESN:

Manny deal HAPPENED!!

198. jmurph Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:19 PM (#2884927)

If I'm a fan of the Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Mets, Red Sox, Rays, or Twins, I'm probably pretty bummed right now that my team couldn't get their sh*t together to make a move. In fact, I am a fan of one of those teams, and I'm pretty bummed.

199. Dan Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:19 PM (#2884928)

Gordon Edes says Manny HAS BEEN TRADED.

200. The Joe Mauer Power Hour (kj) Posted: July 31, 2008 at 03:20 PM (#2884934)

BIG NEWS:

Yankees acquired RHP Johnny Nunez from the Nationals for shortstop Alberto Gonzalez.

From Rotoworld.

I knew there had to be another big one coming!

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