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I'm not saying we have it bad in general. But come on -- that was a really, really bad day. Surely you can sympathize a little bit?
he apparently comes from the Peralta school of spelling: http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=32001
Well, you can never have enough Slavs.
Uh, ever heard of Photoshop?
I can see where you're coming from, but this is our 16th consecutive losing season. We have almost no prospects in the system. Imagine having that really, really bad day at least 15-20 time a year for 16 years. All piled up on the back-end of a day in 1992 that those on a certain Pirates email list are not allowed to mention under penalty of pushups, except in a window of time that surrounds that day.
I don't even know how we do it, to be honest.
I can't tell if this is a joke.
While they were at it, they should have Photoshopped in some knee cartilage...
Oh, stop complaining about the 2004 Mets deadline deal. Kris Benson gave you 1.5 good seasons and then John Maine. Sure, Jose Bautista is severely underrated, but you should have given up a lot more.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/31/manny.sweepstakes/index.html?eref=T1
My heart was never really in it.
I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, I thought the Diamondbacks were a markedly better team than the Dodgers before today, records notwithstanding. This may just even things up. Let's also see who they gave up -- I assume just about all the young players the Pirates got had to come from L.A. Some of those might have been from the major league roster.
I came to terms with it several days ago.
Tomorrow's headline: "Florida loses NL East, keeps $2 million"
For God's sake, don't blow it. That's the holy grail, right there.
I don't think we can be that sure yet that the Pirates management has changed. My guess is the Pirates get Delwyn Young, Brian Falkenborg, Chin-Lung Hu, and Nomar.
Long term ain't 2008. That deal was a huge winner for them for this season. Not making it hurts them tremendously if you are just thinking about whether they will win the NL East this year. Which a few of their current players might just care a bit about.
The Sox only give up Hansen and Moss? No way.
LaRoche brothers, together at last!
outfielder Damien Moss
That has to be Brandon, right? Or is Damian Moss still around?
Well, Manny. You know.
Well, they gave up Manny, too...
EDIT: what jmurph said.
Well, these are the Pirates.
And Manny. But not his salary.
EDIT: by which I mean, since it obviously wasn't clear (258) that the Red Sox are still on the hook for Manny's salary; the paying of which was not dealt to the Dodgers, or so I've read.
Was it? Who plays RF if they get Manny? Watching Tatis try to run down some balls down the line yesterday makes me shudder to think what would happen if Manny or Willingham was manning RF.
Apparently not. From Rosenthal:
Pirates outfielder Jason Bay is headed to the Red Sox. The Pirates will receive Andy LaRoche and right-hander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers and outfielder Damien Moss and releiver Craig Hansen from the Red Sox.
EDIT:They must have paid something towards his salary or the deal would not have required approval from the commissioner's office.
Submit the proposal to our office by 4pm.
Moss and Hansen will now breakout into a .850-.900 slugging corner guy while Craig Hansen will put it together to become a real closer.
Not so fast, Adam is on the DL.
I like to picture it more like Ferris Bueller hurrying to beat his parents home.
We're using "outfielder" in the loosest sense of that term, aren't we, when applying it to Manny . . . .
True, but they don't have to pick up Manny's 20 mill option for 2009 and they don't have to scour the free agent market for a replacement. They get younger, cheaper, improve their defense a little and can spend money on other needs in the offseason. Plus they no longer need body guards for their elderly employees. As described by Robo, I think this trade looks pretty good for all 3 teams.
Also, doesn't this trade kind of suck for the Dodgers? LaRoche and Ethier for 2 months of Manny? There has to be more.
First round pick, got hurt, pitching well this year. Don't remember what he throws, sorry.
Not entirely true. He threw the first pitch ever in the South Coast League last year, pitching for the Macon Music. He didn't even last the season, though.
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I imagine that's where they plan to have him play.
Maybe they'll just do away with a SS and have Manny and Pierre play inner and outer LF. Manny does have a knack for playing the cut-off man in shallow LF and we all know Pierre can't throw more than 10 feet...
Seriously, at that point, just trade your guys for Bay.
Just kidding (sort of).
I like the Brignac/Niemann package a little bit more, I think.
But if the Pirates know they can get a better deal if Boston is involved, why would they just trade Bay for those guys?
When in doubt, always keep the Pirates in the deal. GMs on that club may come and go, but some things remain the same. It's one of the things in life you can rely on, like the sun rising in the East, and verbal gaffes from W. And the Pirates taking butt-ugly prospects in lieu of good ones in any deal.
Seriously, at that point, just trade your guys for Bay.
Yeah, but Ned couldn't add ANY salary to the 2008 team according to many different sources. No way were the Pirates going to throw in cash.
I think they needed the salary relief. I think McCourt might be having financial issues.
In fact I think this is winners all round. Boston get an adequate replacement for Manny and rid themselves of the headache. Manny gets out of a miserable situation. The Pirates get a bunch of major-league ready talent. Laroche and Moss get to play every day.
McLouth and Doumit.
Who are they getting from LA? And isn't Brandon Moss like perennially a prospect? How old is he now?
As a quasi-Dodgers fan, I gotta say, WTF, you couldn't give up an equivalent of Moss and Hansen and get Bay? ####### Coletti...
...and McCourt. That's probably why they went for a no-cost Manny.
He was, however, a first round draft pick.
Good for Theo.
You'd need to give up LaRoche and Morris, too.
The Pirates didn't get any real talent from Boston. I see now they needed Boston because of money issues, so nice work by Theo to manipulate the pressure Colletti is almost certainly under.
Why does it suck for the Dodgers? They do give up LaRoche. But would you rather they'd give up Kemp or Ethier just because it fits the short-term talent distribution a bit better (i.e., for the two months Manny will be there)? Better to keep your eye on the long term, and if you have to give up one excellent young player for a short-term rental, give up the one you aren't going to be playing right now anyway (you just acquired Blake, after all), and the one you think is the lesser long-term talent. Yes, they have a short-term logjam in the OF, but they can juggle that by parking Andruw Jones in the deep freeze where he belongs. What's the problem?
1B Adam
2B Sanchez
3B Andy
SS Wilson (they have a reasonable option on his contract, right?)
LF Moss
CF McClouth
RF Bautista?
That's not a bad lineup assuming Sanchez hits like he did in 2006 or 2007. They're only three starting pitchers away from contention.
His baseball age is 24
What I've been able to glean so far: HS pick, first-rounder in the same year as Kershaw, missed '07 after TJ, good numbers so far this year. Low/Mid 90s FB, good curve.
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