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Friday, January 22, 2010

Griffin: McGwire not a true cheat: Lee

Screw Costas. Bill Lee for commissioner for life!

“Wasn’t there an asterisk for 154 games vs. 162?” Lee asked rhetorically, regarding Roger Maris’ breaking of Babe Ruth’s home run mark in ‘61. “There’s a whole lot of factors. The balls were taken out of Haiti and boom they’re wound tighter. The pitching. The designated hitter. There’s so many changes in the game of baseball that influence the outcome. You just can’t take one over the other.

“Just like McGwire said: Steroids didn’t give him the hand-eye (coordination), the quickness, nothing like that. It may have given him a little more strength. As a pitcher, I don’t care what a guy takes. He can be lit like a Christmas tree, I’m going to find a way to get him out. It didn’t bother me when I pitched. I just hated facing guys like Richie Allen when he was hung over.”

...“Everybody juiced in some way,” Lee said. “You had a rough night so you take a few greenies. That was tough playing in those days. These (players have access to) designer drugs like the East Germans were using a long time before.

“The object of life is to try and live longer, be healthier. Ponce de Leon was looking for the Fountain of Youth. If you told me there was a magic bullet, I’d be knocking over old folks homes so I can pitch for one more year. Every kid’s a little bit bigger. It is out there in our society.

“To single out ballplayers and BALCO for putting a little Clear on the back of your tongue to make you heal faster from injuries ... hell, how many times did I get injected? At the end of the ‘74 season I couldn’t get out of bed because my kidneys shut down. That’s what the team put me on.”

Repoz Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM | 12 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. hscs Posted: January 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM (#3443871)
The Mann Act? I think I'm going to be sick.
   2. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: January 22, 2010 at 12:52 PM (#3443886)
“To single out ballplayers and BALCO for putting a little Clear on the back of your tongue to make you heal faster from injuries ... hell, how many times did I get injected? At the end of the ‘74 season I couldn’t get out of bed because my kidneys shut down. That’s what the team put me on.”

This reminds me of Nick Nolte's rant in North Dallas Forty when they kick him off the team for smoking pot.
   3. depletion Posted: January 22, 2010 at 01:40 PM (#3443911)
..."Everybody juiced in some way,” Lee said.

No.
   4. heyyoo Posted: January 22, 2010 at 03:55 PM (#3444071)
"That was part of the routine," Lee shrugged. "It was as gruesome as it seems seeing those two a-holes in one stall. It must have been a handicapped stall. You couldn't fit them in a regular stall."


I laughed
   5. Dale Sams Posted: January 22, 2010 at 06:17 PM (#3444318)
This reminds me of Nick Nolte's rant in North Dallas Forty when they kick him off the team for smoking pot


I've wanted to make snark references to that movie for years, but didn't think anyone would get it. Best I could do was say something when Romo fumbled that extra point.
   6. Srul Itza Posted: January 22, 2010 at 06:23 PM (#3444331)
"Everybody juiced in some way,” Lee said.


No.


And of course, you know better than somebody who was there.
   7. DL from MN Posted: January 22, 2010 at 06:42 PM (#3444353)
I've wanted to make snark references to XXXXX for years, but didn't think anyone would get it.


Never stopped Repoz..
   8. ericr Posted: January 22, 2010 at 08:11 PM (#3444472)
How about the fact that it wasn't against the rules?
   9. channeling my inner STEAGLES Posted: January 22, 2010 at 09:01 PM (#3444527)
so long as this is a richard griffin article, after seeing JP ricciardi on baseball tonight, i totally understand the urge to punch him. his face just screams snookie.
   10. SuperGrover Posted: January 22, 2010 at 09:15 PM (#3444539)
And of course, you know better than somebody who was there.


Anytime someone makes a blanket statement about an entire population, you can be pretty much rest assured it is false. In other words...

There is no ####### way that everyone in MLB was juicing in some way or another, even if you include caffeine, tobacco and alcohol as "juices."
   11. akrasian Posted: January 22, 2010 at 09:27 PM (#3444555)
Of course it was hyperbole. His point was likely that it is normal for baseball players to do things to enhance performance or speed up healing through better chemistry. If - as Lee explicitly is - you include things like shots to let you play through various injuries, the exceptions are going to be rare.
   12. Chris Dial Posted: January 25, 2010 at 06:34 PM (#3445911)
"Everybody juiced in some way,” Lee said.
I wonder if this will be Andy and SugarBear's "go to" quote now?
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