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I was not aware of this, but now that I am, you definitely bear watching.
I'm cured, I swear! No more Star Trek for me anymore. (Just Babylon 5, Firefly and Battlestar Galactica.)
I went and looked, and found it was actually the ding-dong between retro-shiite and Dial that had disturbed. But that may be because I know them, and had never seen them behave like that before.
Saying Star Wars is better.
"you know, Star Trek V was actually pretty good"
That's not just a bannable offense from a board. That's a bannable offense from life.
"I read this fanfic about Kirk and Spock once, and..."
Love the latter two, tried the first one and I couldn't even make it through one episode. Is there something I'm missing about it? The acting was horrible and the special effects looked like some high school kid in the 70's would have put together.
Special effects on Babylon V's early seasons are very cheap, but that's not the point of the show.
The best thing about that movie is that while it didn't destroy Shatner's directorial career - it crippled it.
I will say it was better than Star Trek I - since they weren't pretending to be young. Otherwise, it was the worst of the 6 movies from The Original Series. Only 3 came even close to it.
On a tangent - for being reputedly such an arschloch to his fellow cast members, and being such a ham - Shatner has built an amazingly good resume late in his career. I think it started when he mocked Star Trek on SNL.
There are a few things that make Babylon 5 worthwhile:
* It's not, strictly-speaking, hard science fiction, but it takes the science seriously. There's no ridiculous technobabble, no deus-ex-machina of the week, no nagging inconsistencies. And it will from time to time wander into hard sci-fi concepts.
* It tells a whole story from start to finish; a lot of things that seem inconsequential or throw-away early on pay off and pay off big in later seasons.
* It has real comments on things like politics, religion and the meaning of life that are serious, thoughtful and interesting.
* I think a lot of the dialogue is clever.
That said, I don't think any of what you said is necessarily wrong, and if you can't get over that hump and engage the show on its level, I can really understand that.
So, then, your conclusion would be that every crime should have the same penalty and that that penalty should be death. Is that what you're saying?
That would be a very liberal reading of things I didn't say, I would think. If I said:
"Gun buyback programs do not seem to have a positive effect in reducing crime."
I don't think the appropriate surmise is:
"Colin Wyers thinks that cities with gun crime problems should be burnt to the ground and have salt sewn in their fields, because gun buyback programs don't work."
it did provide a jumping-off point for Futurama's Star Trek episode, I'll give it that
When BL returned he didn't show any remorse- but he did seem quite a bit less antagonistic... Since his banning (from my POV) was unjustified- I really wouldn't have thought any less of him had he returned more antagonistic than ever.
Of course if you are trying to be consistent, if you banned BL for a series of posts belittling Furtardo and deliberately misstating Furtado's positions, then I guess you have to ban Kevin's Innermost Thoughts as well.
Speaking of Kevin's Innermost Thoughts- who is that? I always assumed that it was a sock puppet for a regular poster.
I'm going ahead and closing the threads to comments. If you would like to continue discussion of this topic, please proceed to the Primer Lounge.
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