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BTW, I was also first on the Christmas thread. My timing is perfect. :-)
So I guess it'll be to be nice or something.
From the medical dictionary:
"GGC Syndrome: Afflicted person is more inhibited in on-line communication than in real life. Very rare, possibly non-existant."
"GGC Syndrome: Afflicted person is more inhibited in on-line communication than in real life. Very rare, possibly non-existant."
IRL, my conversations are private. I know who I'm talking to and I know how they'll take what I say. On the internet, anyone can be reading you. Back in '03, I said something unkind about BPro at some forum that Steve Lombardi hosted at the time. I think it was the NetShrine Discussion Forum. Will Carroll read that forum and took offense. Between that, the fact that I post at Primer and occasionally wrote articles here, and some other remarks complaining about BPro wiseassery, I thought that I made their enemies list. In any case, I suppose I tread more lightly after that. Plus, I do meet a few Primates IRL. I don't want to burn any bridges. This goes for the MSM who read here as well. You never know who you're gonna run into at a SABR meeting. He might have a long memory and recall the time you called him an oxygen thief.
On the other hand, it's pretty damn cool to wear slippers with your own face on them...
I think Larsen's going to get lit up. He sucks.
Eh Haole, you like beef?
I think Larsen's going to get lit up. He sucks.
I dunno, Tom, according to the Daily News, the Yanks are 6-7 favorites with the bookies and 6 1/2 to 5 man-to-man. But what the hell, I'll lay you the 6 1/2 Oiskins and take Larsen anyway. Like the Washington Generals, I think the big boy's due. That Game 2 was just a small sample size.
But let's make it cheap, say just a nickel. I don't want nobody to get hurt.
You, sir, are ####### brilliant.
After waiting so long before they finally broke through last year, the Brooks are not going down easily. I think it'll be a high-scoring, seesaw battle, but I look for Dale Mitchell - who is very familiar with the Yanks after all those years in the American League - off the bench late to win it for Alston's men.
Uga should spank Mich State. Just a mismatch, that is all. A methodical beatdown. One moment it is 10-0, then 20-0 and then 35-7. At least that is what I expect.
Maybe those upstart Milwaukee Braves can break this reign of NY baseball up?
This is true. Though if we're being hypertechnical, HoM, Dialed In, most of the team blogs (especially Gonfalon Cubs and the erstwhile Blogpark in Arlington), and TO, by dint of their being the work of mostly, if not solely, Loungers, are not "the mainland". They're their own separate entities and referred to as such. It's much more correct, again in the hypertechnical sense, to say that Newsblog is the mainland and nothing else than it is to include everything non-Forum.
If you read the BTF Wiki, it says some nonsense about the Forums being called "the island". Don't listen to that.
Oh wait, Georgia only has 3. What??
Devil's Island, maybe.
This is a mild shocker, the Big Ten has been humiliated (0-3) in the bowls until today.
Beano, I'm surprised that you're surprised. Georgia has a rather profound tendency to come up small.
And I think you've got to exempt Northwestern from the humilation. The Cats turned in a nice performance against a team that I thought would blast them.
Iowa just overpowered SC turnovers or no. Once they got a lead they simply muscled the ball and skipped passing.
True. UGA did show up to take care of business vs Hawaii I must say. I'm very thankful for that. We all owe them for it, otherwise this years BCS title game might have been Utah v Bosie St or we'd be watching congressional hearings.
I'm not sure what this means? The big ten is large underdogs in most matchups precisely because they are a very weak conference. tOSU (#2 Big Ten) is facing the #3 team in the B-12 and they are pretty big dogs there. Penn St is champ v champ vs USC and again they are large dogs. These are fair matchups in terms of conf standing, it is just that the big ten is producing teams that are consistently weaker than their peers.
Basically if the Big Ten was better, they would be favorite in at least 2 of these games.
That's pretty disingenuous. The No. 3 team in the Big 12 is also T-1 Big 12. In fact, if tOSU was playing your No. 2 B-12, I don't think they'd be quite the same underdog.
The Big 10 is down, but it got some pretty unfavorable bowl matchups (the downside of traveling well, I suppose).
Indeed. Pat Fitzgerald has been a very good hire. Almost perfect for them.
It is not disingenuous. Texas Tech beat Texas. OU is playing for the title. Even if I grant you Texas is T-1 in B-12, which I will do, then how does it change the fact the B 12 has 3 teams that would be large favorites over #2 B-10?
The matchups are mismatches because the B-10 has a list of weak teams. These teams could be a lot better than they are, they just are not very good. The reason they are dogs across the board, is not because they are facing an "unfair" slate #6 v #3's, instead it is because the big-10 teams are very lacking. There is nothing stopping the B-10 from having 3 great teams like the B-12.
The Big 12 has three teams that would be large favorites over every other conference's No. 2, save perhaps the SEC. The Big 12 (the South division, in particular) was the class of CFB this year. Even the vaunted SEC isn't terribly impressive beyond Fla. (and maybe Bama, though I'm not completely sold on the Tide). It seems foolish to single out the Big 10 as a very weak conference, when you can say similar things about the ACC, Big East and Pac 10.
In Big Ten favor:
Iowa v So Carolina was B-10 #t4 v SEC #t5.
Minny v Kansas was B-10 #t6 v B-12 #7
tOSU v Texas is #t1 and however you want to slice it, #t1-3 B-12
Even:
Mich St v UGA are both clear #3 with exact same record
N'Western v Mizzou was both #t4 and same record
Penn St v USC are both #1
Against B-Ten.
only Wisconsin v Florida St was a mismatch B-10 #t6 v ACC #t3
Only if you think the Big Ten is inferior and deserves a handicap could you conclude the Big Ten has a unfavorable slate. I don't think this, they deserve to be treated straight up. 1vs1s and 2v2s and 3v3s....etc.
But after their top three, the B-12 has nothing. People deluded themselves into thinking the B-12's No. 2 (or No. 4, depending on how you look at it) was a 14-point favorite against the B-10's T-4, when they ended up getting thoroughly outplayed.
I think what you've got here is a variant of the Jeter syndrome. It's not that Penn State is really all that bad, it's just that so many Big Ten teams were so overrated in the polls for so many years, the fans of the runnerup teams in the real power conferences like the Big 12 and the SEC get understandably irritated. But I think that even the polls are starting to reflect reality a bit more accurately nowadays, until the Big Ten proves its competitiveness on the field.
All that said, I'd love to see Penn State pull an upset today. Gotta luv the JoePa.
I think you are forgetting Kansas's manhandling of Minnesota. That was a fair B-12 v B-10 matchup. Of course that game was on NFL Network, so I don't think it counts.
Mizzou is really the #5 team in the B-12. OU, Texas, Texas Tech are all better we can agree. Then both Oklahoma State and Mizzou tied with 5-3 conf records, they did play and OSU won 28-23 in Columbia, MO. So it is fair to call OSU #4 and Mizzou #5.
Mizzou was overrated indeed, but they did still beat N'Western and then Illinois eariler this year. Not huge wins, but still 2-0 and taking care of business vs Big Ten.
Look at it this way:
What other conferences' No. 1 would Penn State be favored against? I've got two (ACC and Big East). Underdogs against the other three.
How about No. 2s? OSU would be favored agains three others (ACC, Big East, Pac 10).
How about No. 3s? Pretty even against the Big East and Pac 10, underdogs to the others.
No. 4s? Pretty evenly matched throughout.
No. 5s? Big 10 favored in a few, though not the one NW faced.
From there, the Big 10 craters (just as Harveys said).
It's not just simply lining up the numbers, but the actual teams they met.
I'm not giving the Big 10 a handicap. I'm saying the conference was weaker than the Big 12 and SEC, and comparable with the others (The ACC was weak at the top, but extremely deep. The Big East was a mess top to bottom. The Pac 10 was excellent at the very top, a large mass of OK in the middle and abysmal at the very bottom). Singling out the Big 10 as a weak conference is misguided in this particular CFB season.
It is the B-10 that seeks out matchups with SEC and B-12, so they need to start delivering.
Missouri won the game, but Northwestern dominated in yardage and time of possession. It took a missed extra point and a miracle punt return for Missouri to escape. Playing against inferior B-12 competition, Chase Daniel got talked up as a Heisman candidate, but against NU, he was a distant second in terms of the QBs on the field.
Illinois was not very good.
Maybe the most interesting bowl game to me is the Cotton Bowl. Texas Tech is only a four-point favorite over a four-loss Ole Miss team, despite its being virtually a home game for them. TT certainly didn't belong on the same field with Oklahoma. If they lose the Cotton Bowl, I think people will start to look at the Big 12 as a conference with two very good teams and one great team, all of which fattened up against weak competition.
Music City Bowl? Which game? Nashville is nice.
Home game for whom? Lubbock is 350 miles from Dallas, Oxford, MS is about 450. I would not expect TT to have much of a "home field".
The B-12 had the best non-conf record this year. I don't think there is any evidence to show the B-12 is anything but a very good conference, in fact the best this year.
This is evidence the B-12 is very strong and very deep.
Ahh yes, I remember that, of course. I went to Minny for school. Bama did have the #1 rushing D in the nation going into that game. Most impressive bowl win for Minny in my lifetime.
i wouldn't hate it near so much if the players had to play wearing only boxer briefs
Miracle punt return? Jermey Maclin is one of the best WR/KO Ret talents in my lifetime. If I had a Heisman ballot this year, I would have voted my top 3, Crabtree, Maclin, Harrell. I am not kidding.
Maclin is phenomenal. 33 TDs after his Freshman and Soph seasons. 5 Kick return TDs. He would have been the B-10 conf player of the year last year and this year.
Maclin 2 Kick Ret TDs v Big 10 in 2008.
KO RET TD v Illinois
Punt RET TD v N'Western
Too much speed.
T - minus 54 min til the return of Jesus (MLB Network). Wait, Jesus, is coaching in the press box in Pasadena.
ugh!
My resolution is to try to be less politi... oh, hell.
19 days left to impeach!!!
(Today, I ate about a half-pound of Cheez Wiz on fries and a cheesesteak. I might not make it to the end of the year if this trend continues.)
EDIT: YouTube of the Teague play. That's closing speed ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHJfQGVmjmc
Mmhmm. I cannot stand Miami. Hate them with a seething passion. *Especially* those teams. Comparing Florida favorably to the early 90s Miami squads is somewhere between colossal and "I'm worried about your capability to keep remembering to breathe" on the scale of stupidity.
Beano is worried about congressional hearings. That is more warranted for the debacle that is the BCS than it was for PEDs.
1) BYU went into the #1 spot in November. Again, Utah did not. Nothing's holding the AP back.
2) A bunch of fluke losses on 11/17 meant there were no sexier candidates from the pool of big conferences, certainly not the case this year.
3) The WAC wasn't a mid-major, it was the worst of the major conferences. That's a very key distinction.
4) BYU had cachet that Utah does not.
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