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Tuesday, June 30, 2009

Hochman: Logos say a lot about teams

Stan Hochman...hey, at least he dislikes Frank Crosetti.

They talked softly because Manny Ramirez totes a big stick. They patiently explained that the team was called the Isotopes, and that an isotope is any of two or more species of atoms of a chemical element with the same atomic number and position in the periodic table and nearly identical chemical behavior but with differing atomic mass.

Manny was OK with that, especially when they told him the air was thin and the fences cozy and the pitching mediocre. And yo, testosterone-breath, the team logo was cool, an abstract A with no crossbar. Just two of those slanted circles featuring an atom or a proton or a neuron, whatever.

It is a cool logo because it refers to the secret place outside of Albuquerque where scientists perfected an atomic bomb that blew away huge chunks of two Japanese cities and brought a swift end to World War II, making the world safe for democracy once again.

...We’ve had our share of woeful logos in the city. Take the A’s symbol, an elephant perched on a ball with a bat in its trunk. Ugh.

It was bad, but not as awful as the Red Sox, represented by a pair of red sawx, appropriate for a laundromat but not a big-league baseball team.

Repoz Posted: June 30, 2009 at 07:05 AM | 35 comment(s)
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   1. Dr. Leo Spaceman  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 06:19 AM (#3237529)
It is a cool logo because it refers to the secret place outside of Albuquerque where scientists perfected an atomic bomb that blew away huge chunks of two Japanese cities and brought a swift end to World War II, making the world safe for democracy once again.

Or the Simpsons. Yeah, that one too.

the Red Sox, represented by a pair of red sawx

What else would you expect?
   2. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Marching Through Georgia  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 06:29 AM (#3237531)
By far the best logo ever was the bearded, bomb-wielding Bolshevik that The Sporting News used for the Reds in 1949-50. Picture this version of Bluto in a baseball uniform, and with a bat in his other hand, and you've just about got it.

And since this logo coincided with the rise of Senator Joe McCarthy and the Red Scare in general, you can see why the Reds renamed themselves the "Redlegs" not too long after that.
   3. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 06:36 AM (#3237532)
Take the A’s symbol, an elephant perched on a ball with a bat in its trunk. Ugh.
Stan, I love ya, you old lunk, but this is one of the coolest logos of all time.
The Cardinal perched on the bat is my favorite standard style logo.
   4. Austin Kearns: The Spy Who Shagged Flies  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 07:13 AM (#3237541)
I'm quite partial to this logo. Looks like Jay Leno wearig a bandana.

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?id=2909

Edit: Sorry about non-clickable link. Not sure how to do those here.
   5. RMc is the Commissioner of Baseball  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 07:15 AM (#3237542)
the Red Sox, represented by a pair of red sawx

What else would you expect?


It should be a picture of a bloody skull with an Uzi in its mouth. That would be cool. Also the colours should be black, teal, black, aqua, black, teal and black. That would so totally rock!
   6. Pops Freshenmeyer  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 07:21 AM (#3237545)
Also the colours should be black, teal, black, aqua, black, teal and black.

Needs some purple.

Who was it on this site that had a theory about the teal-ization of America?

No, I don' think it was Teal and Black's idea.
   7. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Marching Through Georgia  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 07:29 AM (#3237548)
Edit: Sorry about non-clickable link. Not sure how to do those here.

Click on the <a> link above, in between the @ and the "Close Tags".

Copy the URL you want to share into the blank hyperlink line, and click "OK"

Then enter whatever name or words you want to use to make the link, for example Greatest Website Ever.
   8. Teal & Black  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 07:33 AM (#3237550)
I do so love teal.
   9. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 07:56 AM (#3237565)
   10. Smiling Joe Hesketh  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 08:56 AM (#3237611)
I do so love teal.

I really like the Marlins' uniforms, particularly the road grays. Just enough teal to give it some impressive accents without overdoing it. I do not like their black tops, however, since the only color more ubiquitous than teal lately has been black.
   11. Austin Kearns: The Spy Who Shagged Flies  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 09:00 AM (#3237615)
   12. Austin Kearns: The Spy Who Shagged Flies  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 09:00 AM (#3237616)
#7, thanks.
   13. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66)  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 09:12 AM (#3237625)
the team logo was cool, an abstract A with no crossbar. Just two of those slanted circles featuring an atom or a proton or a neuron, whatever.

definitely a neuron (or an axon)
   14. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 09:15 AM (#3237626)
...We’ve had our share of woeful logos in the city. Take the A’s symbol, an elephant perched on a ball with a bat in its trunk. Ugh.

I like the logo! Elephants are cool and it has history.
   15. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 09:16 AM (#3237627)
the team logo was cool, an abstract A with no crossbar. Just two of those slanted circles featuring an atom or a proton or a neuron, whatever.
The thinking person's logo...
   16. Teal & Black  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 09:28 AM (#3237642)
I concur, Smiley Joe.
   17. Teal & Black  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 09:30 AM (#3237644)
A'll be quirky?!!?!?!?!
   18. Young Blasarius yonder  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 10:12 AM (#3237678)
The Angels' logo during the Disney regime was atrocious. It's so bad I don't even think retro hats sporting this logo will ever see the light of day.
   19. Chipper Jonestown Massacre  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 10:37 AM (#3237699)
"the team logo was cool, an abstract A with no crossbar. Just two of those slanted circles featuring an atom or a proton or a neuron, whatever."

Electrons.
   20. Dayton Moore is a Big Fat Idiot (AG#1F)  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM (#3237708)
The Angels' logo during the Disney regime was atrocious. It's so bad I don't even think retro hats sporting this logo will ever see the light of day.

I hated the logos of the 90s. They were so clunky and busy. The Jays, the Rangers, the Angels, the Astros, the Pirates all had awful, awful logos back then. It was difficult finding hats I could wear back in those days. I remember I tried to get a simple Tigers had with the Old English "D", but all I could find were these hideous huge orange logos with a Tiger on it around a "D". It was like marketing wizards in MLB kept asking themselves "how much crap can we squeeze onto this logo?"
   21. flournoy  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 10:43 AM (#3237709)
Man, I loved the "old school" Marlins uniforms. (Is 1993 old school?) Those were some of my favorites of all-time. All the black the Marlins use now is just a travesty. Bring back the teal.
   22. The Nightman Cometh  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 11:39 AM (#3237783)
Take the A’s symbol, an elephant perched on a ball with a bat in its trunk. Ugh.

I vaguely remember a story about a rival claiming that the A's team looked like it was purchased at a white elephant sale, so the team adopted the logo. Don't know if it's true, but it made me a fan of the logo. How can you represent an "athletic" anyways?
   23. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 11:42 AM (#3237786)
New York Giants manager John McGraw referred to the Philadelphia Athletics as a "white elephant" prior to their meeting in the 1905 World Series. Although the Athletics lost that series, in defiance they adopted an elephant as an alternate team logo and eventually as a full-fledged mascot.

From wiki. How the A's became associated with the elephant mascot.
   24. The District Attorney  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 11:46 AM (#3237796)
the team logo was cool, an abstract A with no crossbar. Just two of those slanted circles featuring an atom or a proton or a neuron, whatever.
"They don't know what I need. You don't know what I need. If I'm to have a symbol, it shall be one I respect."
   25. Los Angeles Softballer of Anaheim  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 11:59 AM (#3237810)
The Diamondbacks logo doesn't get enough love, but it's by far the best of the new logos out there. Their DB snakehead patch is awesome beyond words, and so much better than their original logo it's not even funny.
   26. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 12:01 PM (#3237816)
Nice link, #25. :) I got this:
FORBIDDEN!

You have attempted to access my site in a bad way... either that or you are lost (or I screwed up on my code!)

Please back up, and try browsing the site through the paths set out on the homepage
   27. Los Angeles Softballer of Anaheim  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 12:07 PM (#3237822)
I tried linking directly to the image instead of the page that the image was on. Fixed.
   28. AROM  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 12:09 PM (#3237826)
It's so bad I don't even think retro hats sporting this logo will ever see the light of day.


It's only talked about when Angel fans reminisce about games started by the great Ken Hill. In other words, never.
   29. Young Blasarius yonder  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 12:37 PM (#3237861)
It's only talked about when Angel fans reminisce about games started by the great Ken Hill. In other words, never.


I was so sick of waiting for Hill, Jack McDowell and Time Belcher to get healthy back then. Man, the Angels sure liked to waste money on washed-up injured starters back then. I think they even gave Jeff Juden a shot roughly within that same period....
   30. vortex of dissipation  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 01:59 PM (#3238003)
Take the A’s symbol, an elephant perched on a ball with a bat in its trunk. Ugh.


Anyone who would think that, has no taste, period. The Athletics logo is the coolest in baseball, partially because it's so off the wall, partially because of the history behind it. John McGraw, BTW, was presented with a toy elephant by the Athletics prior to the 1905 World Series, which he apparently accepted with humor, not the image we usually have of McGraw.

The best logo in North American team sports, though, by a wide margin, is this one:

Windsor Spitfires
   31. Teal & Black  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 05:50 PM (#3238249)
Logos do say a lot about teams.

The Yankees NY said the Mets are a bunch of second-rate choke-artist pansies. Then it popped open a Veuve and drowned itself in champagne.

The Cleveland Indian smoked a pipe (non-peace variety, you racist pricks) and said the Angels, while a worthy foe, are merely a shadow striding aside their former selves.

The Washington National logo, when commenting on Capitols, was heard to remark, "Drrr. I'm retarded."
   32. Crispix Attacks is in the best shape of his life.  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 06:09 PM (#3238265)
The best logo in North American team sports, by a wide margin, is this one:

Jamestown Jammers
   33. Steve Sparks Flying Everywhere  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 06:42 PM (#3238298)
Where's the love for the Montgomery Biscuits? Monty is a pretty sweet logo.
   34. Randy Jones  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 07:03 PM (#3238319)
For minor league teams, I always liked the hat logos for the Lake Elsinore Storm and Bakersfield Blaze
   35. Zooooooook (jonathan)  Posted: June 30, 2009 at 07:16 PM (#3238328)
I just have to pile about the A's remark. We may not have a great, or even good, or even mediocre, team anymore, but we still have one hell of a logo.
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