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Saturday, November 21, 2009

Jenks, Guillen at odds over closer’s weight

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The right-hander believed the club—based on comments made by manager Ozzie Guillen—was being overly critical of his conditioning.

‘‘Did I feel I was being picked on? No,’’ Jenks said in a phone interview. ‘‘But I felt I was the easy scapegoat because I had struggled in the end with some nagging injuries. This organization, just like most in this game, tell you, ‘Come in, our door is open and tell us what’s on your mind.’ And when you do, they turn it around on you and make you feel bad. They’re playing on your own words. They want you to come in, be honest and then they turn it around.’‘

...Guillen said he plans to talk to Jenks soon, but he added that it’s a two-way street.

‘‘He’s not on an island,’’ Guillen added. ‘‘He has his manager backing him up. But his manager will always be honest. Right now, that kid is going to carry that cross the rest of his career because of his size. Even when he’s in shape, he looks like he’s not in shape.

‘‘He has been great for us. He has my number, [pitching coach Don] Cooper’s number, Kenny’s number. We’re not hiding from anyone. In the meanwhile, he has to take care of himself. Not for the White Sox, for his family. Bobby can have a broken arm and not be able to pitch anymore, and the first thing people will say is he’s out of shape. That’s life.’‘

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   1. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 21, 2009 at 02:18 PM (#3393380)
Does it matter if a closer is fat, really?
   2. Sox Machine Posted: November 21, 2009 at 03:04 PM (#3393408)
Does it matter if a closer is fat, really?

If he misses extended time in consecutive seasons, it can't exactly be helping.
   3. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 21, 2009 at 04:05 PM (#3393430)
If he misses extended time in consecutive seasons, it can't exactly be helping.

Skinny pitchers do this all the time. Is he missing time do to fatness related injuries?
   4. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: November 21, 2009 at 05:07 PM (#3393461)
Does it matter if a closer is fat, really?

I think someone on THT had a study that fat pitchers actually are slightly more durable than skinny ones. I don't think it makes a damn bit of difference, unless he's missing time to diabetes.

As John Kruk said "no one has ever gone on the DL with pulled fat".
   5. RayDiPerna Posted: November 21, 2009 at 05:15 PM (#3393467)
B-R lists him at 6'4, 195. I really don't see the problem.
   6. RJ not in TO Posted: November 21, 2009 at 05:17 PM (#3393469)
B-R lists him at 6'4, 195. I really don't see the problem.


If he were actually 6'4, 195, it wouldn't be a problem.
   7. RJ in TO Posted: November 21, 2009 at 05:20 PM (#3393471)
B-R lists him at 6'4, 195. I really don't see the problem


The B-R weights always make me laugh. According to them, David Wells was only 225 lbs.
   8. RayDiPerna Posted: November 21, 2009 at 05:23 PM (#3393474)
Yeah; they have Jenks higher but I was more making a general joke about the weights there.

For one thing, a player isn't the same weight over a long career (e.g., Hank Aaron), yet, only one weight is listed.

David Wells was 225... for a microsecond as he was soaring past it in between cheeseburgers.
   9. RayDiPerna Posted: November 21, 2009 at 06:04 PM (#3393503)
BTW, I don't expect b-r to be able to have accurate and detailed weight information; just noting that their listed weights can be humorous.
   10. RJ in TO Posted: November 21, 2009 at 06:08 PM (#3393509)
BTW, I don't expect b-r to be able to have accurate and detailed weight information; just noting that their listed weights can be humorous.


Like Tony Gwynn, at 199 lbs?
Or Kirby Puckett, at only 210 lbs?
   11. RayDiPerna Posted: November 21, 2009 at 06:43 PM (#3393532)
Sabathia, 6'7, 250.

Kruk, 5'10, 204.

Pedro Martinez, 5'11, 170. Not bloodly likely, at this point.

Scott Eyre, 6'1, 160. No.

Hank Aaron, 6'0, 180. Not when he hit the home run.

Mickey Lolich, 6'0, 210.

Andruw Jones, 6'1, 170.

Miguel Cabrera, 6'2, 185.
   12. Ron Johnson Posted: November 21, 2009 at 06:56 PM (#3393537)
"Cecil Fielder acknowledges a weight of 261, leaving unanswered the question of what he might weigh if he put his other foot on the scale." -- Bill James
   13. Jeff K. Posted: November 21, 2009 at 06:56 PM (#3393538)
Tony Gwynn: 5'11", 199 lbs.
   14. CFiJ Posted: November 21, 2009 at 07:59 PM (#3393558)
Ichiro Suzuki: 5'9", 160 lbs.
   15. ...even Chuck Norris was afraid of Jim Rice Posted: November 21, 2009 at 08:37 PM (#3393574)
Andruw Jones at 170 is the the most hilarious of the lot... I'd put the over/under at 240, based on his appearance last season.
   16. danielj Posted: November 21, 2009 at 08:43 PM (#3393579)
The Descendents (and ALL) made some killer tunes. Great shame about the homophobia, though.
   17. Halofan Posted: November 22, 2009 at 12:09 AM (#3393648)
If punks had been PC they would have been metal, cut the teenage angst some slack.
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