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Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Jim Bowden: Theo Epstein, Jon Daniels, Dayton Moore, Kevin Goldstein, And One David Cameron

Bowdense: ...“and these OBPATUZXYZ figures…” This is all delightfully mind-blowing.

<a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=25789e2d-f44b-452b-a90d-86baa273c81e&amp;from=IV2_en-us_foxsports_cp_mlb" target="_new" title="GM&#39;s Corner: Week 3">Video: GM&#39;s Corner: Week 3</a><p>

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   1. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: February 23, 2010 at 01:11 PM (#3465787)
That was painful to watch.

And just a note to Dayton Moore: you can give up the on-base percentage talk. Nobody's buying it anymore.
   2. Tricky Dick Posted: February 23, 2010 at 01:15 PM (#3465789)
"Chicks dig sabermetrics" That's cheesy. Who is the chick in that video?

And now I see the last scene with the chick sitting on Bowden's lap as he talks about her statistics while looking closely at her cleavage. Funny or trashy? I don't know.
   3. Mister High Standards Posted: February 23, 2010 at 01:18 PM (#3465790)
Bowden is a riot. In the letcherous old man kind of way.
   4. sbiel2 Posted: February 23, 2010 at 01:30 PM (#3465798)
It's actually his fiance, but the fact that the video never identifies her is double creepy.
   5. My Grate Friend, Peason Posted: February 23, 2010 at 02:02 PM (#3465817)
That was painful to watch.


That's what makes it so awesome.
   6. OsunaSakata Posted: February 23, 2010 at 02:02 PM (#3465818)
She's been his fiance for at least five years.
   7. Mike Webber Posted: February 23, 2010 at 03:32 PM (#3465906)
Actual quote for those that didn't watch:

Q: "Which Sabermetrics do you like?"
Dayton Moore: "Runs Scored."

Yep, that's why I can by an upper deck ticket and sit in the 5th row any day but opening day.
   8. fra paolo Posted: February 23, 2010 at 03:38 PM (#3465911)
Watching that, and looking beyond the shameless lechery, you can see how Bowden is/was 'good at his job'. He conversed with the GMs and the stats guys, apart from the Carmine crack, quite differently from the way he spoke to Justin Upton.

Dayton Moore is really not at all up to speed with SaberWorld. It makes you wonder about the Braves, not just him.

Nats' fans, Reds' fans: note the prominent positioning of the Reds' pennant in his office. No guesses as to where his heart lies.
   9. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 23, 2010 at 03:38 PM (#3465913)
Q: "Which Sabermetrics do you like?"
Dayton Moore: "Runs Scored."


Did he say this with Mayor Quimby's voice?

Dayton Moore upon meeting Bill James: Aren't you one of the Little Rascals?
   10. The District Attorney Posted: February 23, 2010 at 04:22 PM (#3465972)
Q: "Which Sabermetrics do you like?"
Dayton Moore: "Runs Scored."
Look, the guy clearly is incompetent, but depending on what exactly he meant by it, that is either the best possible answer to the question, or far from the worst.
   11. Obi One Kenobi Nil (BFFB) Posted: February 23, 2010 at 04:57 PM (#3465997)
sounds more like a glib response.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: February 23, 2010 at 07:29 PM (#3466181)
Moore followed that with runs created and OBP. Chances are he just mis-spoke and meant to say runs created to start with. He did also close with "at the end of the day it's how many runs you drive in and how many you give up" or something like that.

Jon Daniels is 12 isn't he? Nice to see his Mom did the basement up real nice for him though -- it even has a ceiling fan.

The McLouth section could have been interesting if somebody had actually added some video to help folks assess if Goldstein and Cameron were talking out of their butt. And of course I'm disappointed that neither Goldstein nor Cameron raised Upton's Ks as a potential problem. His K-rate wasn't bad last year but, young or not, he's unlikely to have many more seasons where he hits 406 on-contact. His power looks solid (roughly the same ISO the last two years) and might increase as he ages, so there's little danger of him turning into a pumpkin. But I wouldn't be surprised if last year was about the best we'll see from Upton (I'm not saying the best nor am I predicting no improvement in the K-rate).

Of his B-R comps, Cabrera is definitely the most promising of the relevant ones. He K'd a ton at 20, cut it to about 1 per 4 (as Upton) at 21 and settled in around 1 per 5. If Upton can do that, he'll put up numbers similar to last year as his average. But of the B-R comps (not a good set), Andruw Jones looks like the most appropriate comp to me.
   13. Barnaby Jones Posted: February 25, 2010 at 08:59 PM (#3468355)
Good heavens, that was not how imagined Dave Cameron.
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