User Comments, Suggestions, or Complaints | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Advertising
Page rendered in 0.4848 seconds
81 querie(s) executed
|
| |||||||||
Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Monday, July 14, 2008Joe Posnanski: The rare trade that hurts both playersThat would be Bobby Murcer and Bobby Bonds...and Poz at his best.
Repoz
Posted: July 14, 2008 at 12:23 PM | 23 comment(s)
Related News: General, History, Hall of Fame, NY Yankees, San Francisco |
My BookmarksYou must be logged in to view your Bookmarks. Hot TopicsNewsblog: Olbermann: It Disgusts Me (47 - 5:48pm, Jul 05) Last: Jolly Old St. Nick (now, with Screen Name history) Newsblog: Washington Post: Rizzo Promises to Deal Only if Offers Are Right (RR) (9 - 5:40pm, Jul 05) Last: Justin Zeth Newsblog: Madden: Omar Minaya's Mets have issues with injuries and inside the clubhouse (8 - 5:31pm, Jul 05) Last: Darren Newsblog: Steve Kettman: A review of the unmaking of 'Moneyball: The Movie' (17 - 5:26pm, Jul 05) Last: Vogon Poet Newsblog: Cincinnati Enquirer/Fay: Please don't mortgage future (7 - 5:20pm, Jul 05) Last: Harveys Wallbangers Newsblog: tampabay.com: Tampa Bay Rays minor-league affiliate's Ladies Night promotion causing a stir (26 - 5:13pm, Jul 05) Last: Justin Zeth Newsblog: L.A. Times: Game (not) over for Gagne
(3 - 5:04pm, Jul 05) Last: Esoteric can feel Strasburg slowly slipping away |
||||||||
|
About Baseball Think Factory | Write for Us | Copyright © 1996-2008 Baseball Think Factory
User Comments, Suggestions, or Complaints | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Advertising
|
| Page rendered in 0.4848 seconds | |||||||
Reader Comments and Retorts
Go to end of page
Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.
One of the situations to which I had firsthand experience was watching the Braves manager who shall not be named jerk around Joe Adcock. You put Joe Adcock in the game today and he's a big star.
There are many, many others.
But that doesn't change that this was a great article.
And Bonds never made it in San Francisco for two reasons: He wasn't Willie Mays, and he struck out way too much. Free swingers who set strikeout records are nearly always going to hear it from the fans whenever they strike out, because it simply confirms their reputations as hitters who care only about home runs. It's not fair, but it's a fact.
I don't know if I could ever feel like two guys who got to spend ten years in the big leagues got cheated, but perhaps Bonds and Murcer got cheated a bit in their careers.
That's a glass-half-empty way of looking at it. If, say Murcer hadn't in his early years played his home games in Yankee Stadium (which Poz says suited his style of hitting), maybe he'd've just been a 100 OPS+ CF today.
Ooh, don't get him started on "the Braves manager who shall not be named."
Without looking it up, I'll suggest this fellow has the same initials as "the freely available power hitter".
Yes. Fred Haney.
Ned Yost is a godd*mn Nobel prize winner compared to that son of a b*tch. Look at the playing patterns and lineups some day if you have a chance. Make your head hurt.
I'm thinking more along the lines of a former catcher who used to be a color guy on Mets games.
Now I'm trying to think of a catcher with the intitials "FH"
I remember Bill James going nuts over Haney hitting Frank Torre cleanup in the final game of the 1959 NL playoff between the Braves and Dodgers. Torre hit .228/.321/.304 that year, so Haney not only played him over Joe Adcock (!?!?!?), he hit him cleanup, and Eddie Mathews second. That's worse than hitting Jose Vidro cleanup...
Braves/Dodgers 1959 playoff
Don Drysdale threw (IIRC) 69.2 IP that year against him. No pitcher, in all the years since then has thrown that many innings against one team. All he did was lead the league in strikeouts that year.
Toothpick Sam Jones threw 69.1 IP against the Braves that year. Not as big a name as Drysdale, but he led the league in ERA and Wins. Had each league had its own Cy Young Award, he would have won it for the NL. Oh, and he did very well against the Braves that league.
Those two men, believe or not, combined to toss 10% of all innings against the team that year. And they ended the season in a tie for first place, only to lose the best-of-3 playoffs. Chomp on the implications of those pitcher usage patterns. . . . .
Got it. Although I would have worded it as "middling left handed spot reliever who was NOT part of the Marlins 1997-1998 purge".
Faux homosexual? Is Piazza working Met games now?
Fran Healy
I'm surprised HW's head didn't explode that day.
But ya gotta love the old roster flexibility. For the Braves in that game:
4 different guys spent time in LF ... none named Adcock
4 different guys spent time at 2B
5 pinch-hitters and 2 defensive replacements (i.e. entered the game not as pinch-hitters)
yet they never pinch-hit for the pitcher
You also get (just for the Braves) Frank Torre, Andy Pafko, Enos Slaughter, Al Spangler, Red Schoendienst, Mickey Vernon, Joe Adcock, Bobby Avila, Felix Mantilla, Del Crandall, Lew Burdette, Don McMahon and Warren Spahn. That's a lot of "name" players. Talk about veteran bench presence, sheesh.
Meanwhile, for the Dodgers, Drysdale, Podres and Koufax all pitched in the game. (Granted, Koufax wasn't Koufax yet)
Tormenting an old man.
Sonsab#tches.....
You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.
<< Back to main