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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Friday, December 14, 2007Joe Posnanski: Mad Dog 20-20Posnanski continues his BJIP series by profiling the forgotten Bill Madlock, a.k.a. the 2nd greatest right-handed hitter since World War II, measured by batting titles won (a stat which people cared about in olden times). Many anecdotes.
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Posted: December 14, 2007 at 06:49 PM | 5 comment(s)
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I'd say that's a little better than "solid" for a guy who played 3B. Through age 30, it was a more solid 130. Being a contemporary with Schmidt and Brett didn't help him get noticed but prior to that, he might have been among the top 5 hitting 3B of all-time (Mathews, Santo, Baker ... anybody else?).
I think Madlock is one of the more under-rated players in recent baseball history...which is kinda surprising given how many batting titles he won. I wonder how many players have more batting titles than AS teams.
Boggs for one, plus a lot of guys who played 3B, but not for as long as Madlock did, like Allen, Rose, Jim Ray Hart, Paul Molitor, Killebrew, Edgar Martinez, ARod. Probably a bunch more.
Edit:
Scott Rolen has played more games at 3B than Madlock did, and with a higher (126) OPS+.
Ron Cey is only 2 OPS+ points behind, but with over 500 more games.
I seem to recall somebody testing this against the facts (James said that Madlock bowed out for the season during a couple of Septembers once his batting title was secure) and finding that it didn't check out.
Madlock was a hell of a good player, and a lot of fun to watch.
Misirlou - thanks for the tidbit on Rolen. Interesting parallel. We know he irritates his managers, whereas Madlock seemed to irritate his fellow players.
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Scott Rolen has played more games at 3B than Madlock did, and with a higher (126) OPS+.
Ron Cey is only 2 OPS+ points behind, but with over 500 more games.
You seem to have missed the "prior to" qualifier. Since, there have been at least two (Jones and Boggs). Of the prior guys you listed, Allen, Hart and Rose had about 650 games at 3B so I don't consider them qualifiers. Killer was under 800 ... which is getting there but still seems a bit light to qualify as a "3B". I'm surprised you didn't pull out Pedro Guerrero. :-)
By the way, Rose obviously had the better career, but I'm not sure I'd call him a better hitter than Madlock and through age 30, Rose has the lower OPS+.
Cey's a good one though another contemporary (with Schmidt and Brett).
My point isn't to say that Madlock's one of the all-time great 3B (though he's probably top 15 off the top of my head) but to say, up to that point in MLB history, he was one of the best-hitting 3B of all-time and you'd think would have gotten more attention. I'm sure there must have been a few, but how many 3B had won a batting title before Madlock, much less 4?
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