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Monday, March 02, 2009

Kelley: How John Wetteland helped save baseball in Seattle

Sure, sure...while baseball did nothing to save Wetlands! (and thank soggy heavens for that...!)

For Wetteland, 1995 was his year of living dangerously. He was the Yankees’ closer, pitching in his first postseason. It was a learning experience for him and one thing he learned was that he couldn’t get Mariners hitters out.

It was Wetteland who gave up the game-winning home run to Griffey on Aug. 23, the moment that started all of the Mariners’ magic. And it was Wetteland who gave up Martinez’s grand slam that won the fourth game of the ALDS.

“Like I said, glad to help,” Wetteland said, smiling good-naturedly."What was my earned-run average in that series?” Wetteland asked. “About 45?” (Actually, it was 14.54.)

..."That was a very rough time for me,” said Wetteland. “Whenever I pitched against the Mariners it was a personal nightmare. I think I beat myself going into that series, because you can’t pitch with that kind of a mindset.

“I was a power pitcher, and if you’re a dominant pitcher, you have to feel dominant and when a certain amount of players on a team kind of get your number early, it can really affect you. I talk to pitchers all the time about getting to the point where you beat a hitter before you ever throw a pitch. Well, the reverse happened to me.”

Repoz Posted: March 02, 2009 at 08:36 PM | 12 comment(s)
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   1. Tripon  Posted: March 02, 2009 at 08:56 PM (#3090810)
It was Wetteland who gave up the game-winning home run to Griffey on Aug. 23, the moment that started all of the Mariners’ magic. And it was Wetteland who gave up Martinez’s grand slam that won the fourth game of the ALDS.

And yet it was the Yankees that went to 5 world series over the next 6 years. How magical was that for the Mariners? Was the 2001 ALCS magical for the Mariners?
   2. Best Dressed Chicken in Town  Posted: March 02, 2009 at 09:06 PM (#3090813)
Overall Wetteland was a good Yankee. He looked like he had a good shot at the career saves record, but retired early. (back problems?)

I think most pitchers should throw their fastballs more, but in Wetteland's case I thought he should have thrown it less. He had a nasty curve but kept it hidden too much. He threw his fastball hard, but without a lot of movement. Sometimes you could tell he was in for a rough outing right off the bat. If those first couple pitches looked straight, look out.
   3. Halofan  Posted: March 02, 2009 at 09:38 PM (#3090832)
The 1995 Angels built Safeco. That is all.
   4. Gold Star 4 Robot Boy  Posted: March 02, 2009 at 09:40 PM (#3090834)
With Rex Hudler as project foreman.
   5. Quinton McCracken's BFF  Posted: March 02, 2009 at 09:46 PM (#3090837)
I didn't remember this Byung hyum Kimmish part of John's career
   6. Gold Star 4 Robot Boy  Posted: March 02, 2009 at 09:48 PM (#3090839)
Because it was before the Yankees became the Yankees.
   7. Crispix Attacks is in the best shape of his life.  Posted: March 02, 2009 at 09:50 PM (#3090842)
WETTELY IS NOT YOUR SAVIOR!!!!
   8. TVerik and his cavalcade of whimsy  Posted: March 02, 2009 at 10:02 PM (#3090850)
I've gotta say - unless Wetteland actually psyched himself out completely, I think Buck Showalter mucked up that series. I respect hunches and stuff, but I think you have to go out with what you brung. Or whatever the phrase is.

Had they managed to win the game, could Wetteland feel good about pitching in the ALCS?

I liked Buck as a manager. But between Game 5 and his stunning failure to see that he had the best closer in the world on his roster, I think he had to go.
   9. SoSHially Unacceptable  Posted: March 02, 2009 at 11:38 PM (#3090922)
I liked Buck as a manager. But between Game 5 and his stunning failure to see that he had the best closer in the world on his roster, I think he had to go.


Now the eyes might have suggested something that the numbers obscured, but I find it hard to fault Buck for not realizing a struggling young starter with a 5.51 ERA and a 1.507 WHIP was actually the best closer in the world.
   10. RB in NYC (Now with Resolutions!)  Posted: March 02, 2009 at 11:44 PM (#3090924)
After Rivera blew Game 4 of the '97 ALDS, I remember reading an article about how letting Wetteland go had cost the Yankees "at least" a chance at another World Series, and something about "who knows" how many more.

Think that worked out ok, in the end.
   11. Robert Machemer  Posted: March 02, 2009 at 11:46 PM (#3090929)
After Rivera blew Game 4 of the '97 ALDS, I remember reading an article about how letting Wetteland go had cost the Yankees "at least" a chance at another World Series, and something about "who knows" how many more.

Think that worked out ok, in the end.
Speak for yourself. Would that it had worked out differently!
   12. Best Regards, Larry Mahnken  Posted: March 03, 2009 at 12:10 AM (#3090945)
Now the eyes might have suggested something that the numbers obscured, but I find it hard to fault Buck for not realizing a struggling young starter with a 5.51 ERA and a 1.507 WHIP was actually the best closer in the world.
Actually, the numbers pretty much showed how great a reliever Rivera was going to be. His problem was that after the first go-around the lineup, he became hittable.

But that first go-around? .197/.300/.352. And he gave up 2 homers to the ninth batter, he was .164/.276/.282 against the first eight batters.

And in Game Two, he had completely dominated the Mariners lineup for three innings (and they *looked* AWFUL against him). I was screaming at my TV for Buck to put Rivera in before the Yankees even let the tying run get to third base -- "THEY CAN'T HIT THIS GUY!!!!"
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