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Swinging at the first pitch last year, he hit .372/.584. 2-0 he was .381/.524. 2-1 .405/.595.
Ironically, ".311" was also Francoeur's blood-alcohol level when he made this prediction.
27 homers is not that unlikely, but I'll believe 50 walks when I see it.
But then I started thinking about it, and realized that Jeffy Froglegs could very easily hit 27 dingers and still suck.
Not in Jeffy's mind.
Right. He'd better hit at least 27 HR's or he's going to be less than useless.
Francouer will never be a star, but he could become a useful player over the next couple of years.
I also think this is possible. He's a gifted athlete and he's shown flashes here and there. I still think he makes more sense for a team like the Pirates or Royals than for a mega-payroll team like the Mets.
I didn't read all those articles about Frenchy when he was a Brave, but has he talked like this before? I always thought he had an approach that didn't really value working the count, and thought he was one of those guys who just didn't need to walk. If he can walk 50-60 times, he'll be a much more worthwhile player. I'm not putting money on it. But the Mets do have Wright and Beltran- two hitters who are very successful at driving the ball because they work the count. Maybe they'll teach him a few things.
Every March. Frechy learning to take a walk is like the swallows returning to San Juan Capistrano.
No it's not. He's been saying exactly the same thing - "this year I'm going to be more selective and put it all together" - since 2007. Saying != doing.
Sure, and if Martin Prado can hit 30 homers he'll be a much more worthwhile player, too.
When he was on the Braves, I just mocked those articles and never read them. Now that he's with the Mets, I have to be legitimately interested in what he says.
I'm wondering if there's any chance Pagan takes the job if he has a hot April and Francouer sucks. When Beltran comes back, it would be nice for the pitching staff if the OF was Bay/Beltran/Pagan.
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If Frucky didn't learn this from Chipper Jones, he sure isn't going to learn it from either of those two dudes.
March 2006: Francoeur tries getting more selective
April 2007: "Smarter" Francoeur selectively aggressive
March 2008: Francoeur tells Ken Rosenthal "I would love to walk about 80 times a year"
April 2009: Jeff Francoeur's New Approach
May 2009: "If on base percentage is so important, why don't they put it on the scoreboard?"
Reported by Jeff Schultz in the AJC, June 15, 2009:
That's not to say he *can't* put something together this year, but this is not a new event in Jeffy's life. He's been in the "I'm going to be more selective at the plate" spring training trough before.
Did he really say that? Because Turner Field DOES post OBP on the scoreboard.
He did say it and he's been roundly mocked for it because of the fact you cite. That and his weird coprorate-speak blog and the endless AJC fluff pieces about him have made him Primer's favorite whipping boy the last few years.
120 OPS+ isn't a sample size at all. The 308 PA in which Francoeur achieved it is a fairly small sample size, much like the 324 PA in which he had a 68 OPS+ for the Braves before the trade.
Which was, of course, immediately preceded by 652 PAs of 72 OPS+ in 2008.
Don't try to pawn that #### off on us.
Seriously.
Indeed it would be, but there's no chance whatever this happens. Francouer will get at least half a year of complete suck to put it together for his $5m. The Mets haven't evinced any understanding of sunk costs, or of roster construction. I don't expect them to get religion any time soon.
Speaking of betting on pitcher's ERAs, it just occurred to me there're going to be a whole lot of innings featuring the outfield of Bay-Matthews-Francouer. I'm also looking forward to some extra innings extravaganzas where the last few innings feature Murphy-Bay-Francouer.
Nope, backup to Carlos Ruiz of the Phillies. Certainly should be an improvement over Bakocoste.
How do you figure that? To start the season, the Mets will have Pagan with Matthews as the backup. Once Beltran comes back, they'll have 2 backup CFs on the roster. And Omar has already said Pagan's ahead of Matthews on the depth chart. The Mets have always like Pagan more than I thought was merited by his minor league performance. Based on his track record so far, this looks like the blind squirrel finding the nut.
I'll take the under on that (for those 3 players.) Anyone want to play?
I think he's an excellent example of the fact that pitch-recognition is not an acquired ability. Sure, you can improve it a bit, much like you can train and get a little faster. But a fast guy is born fast and a slow guy is born slow. Training or lax training can increase or decrease some, but not much. I take Francouer at his word: he'd like to have better pitch recognition. But he just can't do it. No need to pile on the guy.
Jose Reyes is an example in the other direction, though. He walked in 3.6% of his 1254 PA in the majors through age 22, but has walked in 8.9% of his 2397 PA since then.
EDIT: That said, I agree that pitch recognition likely isn't a skill that everyone can learn. Some people can, some can't, just like hitting for power or stealing bases.
This is a good point. I used to bowl (not well) and the guys on my team with 220 averages would say things like "make sure your thumb doesn't twist" and "keep your elbow in" and "pick up a g** d*** 10-pin on occasion". They would say these things all the time and I couldn't figure out how to actually do it. I didn't have a feel for where my thumb or elbow was, so I was incapable of knowing whether I was doing it right or wrong. So I couldn't form good habits.
And one of them's Sciambi!
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