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Friday, November 28, 2008

Kovacevic: Pirates plan patience with offseason moves

Black and Gold Friday here at Primer! (fatty with large pocketbook gets knocked over at key BTF entrance)

But Huntington is adamant, as is the entire front office, that the plan this new administration set in motion last fall is making progress toward developing a deep organization. And all concerned are equally adamant that the most prominent moves made this winter must fit into that category.

“We are not throwing 2009 to the wind and saying, ‘Well, we’ll win again sometime in the future.’ We know we need to win, and sooner rather than later, and we’re going to show up, work hard, prepare, teach and go out to win every game” Huntington said. “But, if we can trade a veteran player and it brings us 12-18 years of control instead of one or two, and we don’t take that large of a step backward, that’s just good business.”

And that is why, according to multiple sources, no fewer than of the Pirates’ five veterans—shortstop Jack Wilson, second baseman Freddy Sanchez, first baseman Adam LaRoche, reliever John Grabow and catcher Ronny Paulino—already have been part of trade talks, to some degree or other.

In the cases of Sanchez and LaRoche, by all accounts, they have been mere inquiries from the outside. But the other three have come up in several directions.

“Wilson and Grabow are out there, and they’re really pushing Paulino,” one American League executive said.

Repoz Posted: November 28, 2008 at 07:47 AM | 4 comment(s)
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   1. Sidd [bleeping] Finch (SuperBaes)  Posted: November 28, 2008 at 01:24 PM (#3017153)
"Wilson and Grabow are out there, and they're really pushing Paulino," one American League executive said.

I'd love to see some return on Paulino from the Dodgers, maybe in a package with Jack Wilson, for L.A. to try and use as leverage against Boras in an extended Jason Varitek contract negotiation.
The plan entering this offseason was to target a legitimate, if not marquee, starter to complement the rotation, and it is believed that there contact earlier this month with right-hander Paul Byrd

Was Paul Byrd ever, even at his peak, a marquee starter? He might have anchored an awful Royals staff, but I think that "marquee" is a bit of a stretch.
Free-agent signings, as always with the Pirates, can be expected later rather than sooner, once the most expensive types are gone.

With the clumping of free agents available this offseason, would it be crazy to think they might sign one of the closers who sat around too long late to a short-term (1-2 years) deal for higher annual, then cash that chip in at trade deadline time when Kevin Gregg loses his job or Wood goes on the DL with whatever team he signs with? I know they tried that a few years ago and failed (by getting losers like Bobby Hill), but it doesn't seem like a terrible short-term investment strategy.
   2. Babe Adams  Posted: November 28, 2008 at 02:19 PM (#3017178)
With the clumping of free agents available this offseason, would it be crazy to think they might sign one of the closers who sat around too long late to a short-term (1-2 years) deal for higher annual, then cash that chip in at trade deadline time when Kevin Gregg loses his job or Wood goes on the DL with whatever team he signs with?


There is surely a correlation between good teams and teams that make good deadline deals, just as there is a correlation between regularly sleeping with another person and a high standard of living. That does not mean that bad teams should spend their offseason planning deadline deals, any more than it means that a person should plan to raise their standard of living by sleeping with others.
   3. Mike Emeigh  Posted: November 28, 2008 at 02:22 PM (#3017179)
I know they tried that a few years ago and failed (by getting losers like Bobby Hill), but it doesn't seem like a terrible short-term investment strategy.


No team should acquire players with the intention of turning them into trade deadline chits. For one thing, you don't know what's going to happen between now and next summer. For another, players get hurt - your own as well as those on other teams. For yet another, it ties your own hands, because now you have a guy to whom you HAVE to give a job.

-- MWE
   4. Tripon  Posted: November 28, 2008 at 06:14 PM (#3017261)
I'd love to see some return on Paulino from the Dodgers, maybe in a package with Jack Wilson, for L.A. to try and use as leverage against Boras in an extended Jason Varitek contract negotiation.


What, the hell? The Dodgers have better options at Shortstop and at catcher. I'm not even talking about Hu at shortstop. Ivan DeJesus Jr is the future. And there's no reason to acquire Paulino for anything, even as a backup.
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