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Friday, July 03, 2009

L.A. Times: When it comes to Manny, what would Nietzsche do?

What, you didn’t know Socrates was a baseball junkie?

You thought Plato and Nietzsche were so above it all they didn’t have a favorite National League team?

Yeah, stupid me, I had no idea either.

But this week I paid a visit to my local house of all things psychic: Tattered Glove Palm Reading of Chavez Ravine.

With Manny Ramirez back Friday, L.A. is now confronted with a bulked-up existential question: How should we view those who have cheated the system by using banned substances? What should we think of those who appear willing to do anything to win? How do we forgive?

Searching for answers, I convened an emergency meeting with the spirits of some of the prime shapers of Western thought.

It actually wasn’t hard to get this group together; it’s a little-known fact they have been meeting regularly to philosophize on baseball since the White Sox World Series scandal of 1919.

First up? Socrates (Manny-applicable quote: “An honest man is always a child.”).

What, I asked, do we make of this Ramirez mess?

“Well, let me say it is good, my friend, that you’re asking questions. That’s what I’m all about: pondering. The most important question is this: What, exactly, is cheating?”

Just my luck. I go looking for absolutes, all I get is doubt.

Tripon Posted: July 03, 2009 at 05:18 PM | 8 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. ?Donde esta Dagoberto Campaneris? Posted: July 03, 2009 at 07:19 PM (#3241526)
Having read a bit of his work I feel fairly comfortable asserting that Neitzsche, like the rest of this town, would simply avoid reading the LA Times. Particularly its increasingly painful Sports section.
   2. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: July 03, 2009 at 07:48 PM (#3241544)
Write a really cool surf instrumental?
   3. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: July 03, 2009 at 07:52 PM (#3241553)
Oh, and...

Reverend Johnson: Order! Order! Goddammit, I said order!

Howard Johnson: You know, Nietzsche said "Out of chaos comes order."

Olson Johnson: Oh, blow it out your ass, Howard.
   4. greenback Posted: July 03, 2009 at 07:54 PM (#3241558)
Having read a bit of his work I feel fairly comfortable asserting that Neitzsche, like the rest of this town, would simply avoid reading the LA Times. Particularly its increasingly painful Sports section.

If you're going to frown, don't forget Plaschke.
   5. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: July 03, 2009 at 08:13 PM (#3241579)
well, Shaw explained about Manny and Supermanny
   6. Bitter Calculus Instructor Posted: July 03, 2009 at 08:27 PM (#3241592)
As someone who's read Plato's Five Dialogs, I found the part about Socrates asking "what is cheating?" to be amusing. In fact, I think a pretty good dialog could be written revolving around that question without leaving baseball.
   7. Cabbage Posted: July 03, 2009 at 10:53 PM (#3241727)
Nietzsche thinks Manny should also get his ### kicked by Kant.
   8. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: July 04, 2009 at 02:29 AM (#3241930)
There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya' 'bout the raising of the wrist.

Socrates himself was permanently pissed.
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