Reggie Jefferson who never played with him is sure of it, it has to be true....

If the Stridex fits, you must acquit.

Piazza has not commented or confirmed anything.

I notice he hasn't denied anything yet either....hmmmmm

I can understand Lasorda coming to Mike's defense.

But this “He worked so hard. I saw him in the weight room working out all the time." doesn't really help when the issue is steroid use.

Where does Tommy Lasorda-Mike Piazza rank on the Baseball Godfather-Godson list? Behind Mays-Bonds, to be sure.... but is it number two? The listing of Godfather-Godson Ballplayers is not well established.

Isn't he actually the Godfather of Mike's brother, or something like that?

But this “He worked so hard. I saw him in the weight room working out all the time." doesn't really help when the issue is steroid use.

Maybe it does in the general public opinion. The average ignoramus thinks that steroids are magic pills that make you grow muscles overnight effortlessly. Obviously everyone should look at that quote and say, "Working hard and lifting weights all the time is exactly what someone benefiting from steroid use would do," but most people don't know that.

How about the hookers? Did he tlak about the hookers?

Whatever (is in the book) is hearsay.
Which is different than the Dodger Blue Truth of Tommy Lasorda?

Tommy Lasorda is dumber than 10 Mike Piazza back pimples.

With friends like these, Piazza doesn't need any Novitskies.

Maybe it does in the general public opinion. The average ignoramus thinks that steroids are magic pills that make you grow muscles overnight effortlessly. Obviously everyone should look at that quote and say, "Working hard and lifting weights all the time is exactly what someone benefiting from steroid use would do," but most people don't know that.

The average ignoramus thinks that anyone who is strong / muscular is possibly on steroids. And no, everyone should NOT look at that quote and say, "Working hard and lifting weights all the time is exactly what someone benefiting from steroid use would do". That would be what ignorami would do.

So, if Lasorda is dumber than 10 dogs, Murray Chass is dumber than how many dogs? What about Jeff Pearlman?

#11: Steroid users don't work hard and lift a lot of weights?

“I don’t believe that at all,” said Lasorda, the longtime Dodgers manager . “He worked so hard. I saw him in the weight room working out all the time. Whatever (is in the book) is hearsay. I just don’t believe it.

Has Lasorda heard that Murray Chass saw Piazza's bacne.

"He comes from a family that’s full of good people. I wouldn’t comment on it if I didn’t feel strongly about it. He has too much to lose. And he’s such a nice young man. He goes to church, he’s got a nice family.

So if one uses steroids, he's a bad person?

BTW, did Piazza's body type change much in the 15 years he was in the majors? I don't recall that.

BTW, did Piazza's body type change much in the 15 years he was in the majors? I don't recall that.

Who's to say he started using in the majors?

So if one uses steroids, he's a bad person?

Chris Benoit.

I'd be surprised if he didn't use steroids. 1st ballot HOFer, IMO

people think that steroid users are guys who hit home runs. and are like canseco who said everything he did in baseball was because of taking steroids

i think it is one of the reasons that people don't care about steroid users who don't hit home runs or are not large.

steroids testing started (seriously) in 05 and still you hear people saying that albert pujols is probably a steroid user because he is large and hits home runs (interesting that you don't never hear that about david ortiz) in spite of the fact that albert is an outstanding baserunner and fielder. and yet uncle's numbers haven't changed one little bit before/after testing

really at this point it wouldn't surprise me one bit if just about any guy between 1980 - 2005 who played baseball was discovered to have used steroids.

well except for tony gwynn - it really would surprised me if he used

well except for tony gwynn - it really would surprised me if he used

Only if you stuffed them in a Hot Pocket.

I figured that he got his through his copious consumption of burgers - indirect but legal.

Gwynn had the late career power surge in the late 90s. Now, Rich Garces, there's one who would surprise me...

Isn't he actually the Godfather of Mike's brother, or something like that?

Yes. Oft misreported, but yes.

laughing

well i hear tell theres LOTS of hormones in unorganic beef but i think it is not testosterone because testosterone make meat taste NASTY

he must have been an AMAZING athlete when he was young. i mean, he's 5-10 or 11 and he was drafted by the NBA. i wish there was more games on tv when i was a kid because i hardly remember watching him play

BTW, did Piazza's body type change much in the 15 years he was in the majors? I don't recall that.

The rumor is that Piazza began using around 1990 during a stint in winter ball in Mexico. That would be well before his time in the majors.

FWIW, yes, Piazza did lose considerable weight following the 2003 season, but that might just have been because of a torn groin. I noticed him looking bigger when he went out to SD for the 2006 season, but that might have just been a fat and happy Mike Piazza.

Steroids didn't make Benoit a bad person. A million concussions did. Which makes me think little Dewey Foley better steer clear of daddy....

And he’s such a nice young man. He goes to church, he’s got a nice family.

"Only surly, godless people from bad homes do PEDs."

@25. A-Rod.

...steroids testing started (seriously) in 05...

"Seriously" should have been in quotes instead of parentheses.

How does a torn groin help a person lose weight?

How does a torn groin help a person lose weight?

I'd imagine a player would find it harder to exercise, and may also concentrate on carrying less weight in general. Particularly a catcher.

testosterone make meat taste NASTY

For shame, bbc, this is a family site.

steroids testing started (seriously) in 05 and still you hear people saying that albert pujols is probably a steroid user because he is large and hits home runs (interesting that you don't never hear that about david ortiz) in spite of the fact that albert is an outstanding baserunner and fielder. and yet uncle's numbers haven't changed one little bit before/after testing

So you really think the "testing" done by MLB is an effective deterrent? And what does being a good baserunner and fielder have to do with contraindicating AAS usage? Do AAS ahve some detrimental effect on baserunning and fielding I'm unaware of?

Sprinters seem to think steroids work for them.

13. flournoy Posted: March 30, 2009 at 11:06 AM (#3118766)
#11: Steroid users don't work hard and lift a lot of weights?

Some do, some don't. Just like non steroid using athletes actually.

Some use steroids because the steroids allow them to work harder. Some use steroids because the steroids allow them to be more relaxed and less strict about diet or training. Strange as it might seem to some, steroid users are humans. Not too different from most other humans, with all the varying motivations that other humans have.

28. Frisco Cali Posted: March 30, 2009 at 10:31 PM (#3119496)
How does a torn groin help a person lose weight?

This obviously depends on the person involved, on diet, metabolism, on what exercises they were doing before the torn groin, on what they are doing now that they tore the groin.

What is with the disdain around here for Lasorda? It just because this is a heavy east coast blog? I don't get it.

What is with the disdain around here for Lasorda? It just because this is a heavy east coast blog? I don't get it.

Actually Lasorda is from Norristown, PA and his family has a bit of a presence around these parts. I didn't like Lasorda initially because of all his Dodger Blue BS, like being a Dodger made them superior. Then he showed no sense of humor with the Phillie Phanatic -- he had some runins with a freakin' mascot. Because he is a big blowhard, pompous, acting like his opinion is the only one that counts. In short, he reminds of most of the real a-holes that I've known in my life. That's my story. It could be as irrational as my visceral dislike for Barbra Streisand but that's my story.

I like Lasorda, for what it's worth.

Wasn't there some sort of issue with Lasorda and his son?

What is with the disdain around here for Lasorda? It just because this is a heavy east coast blog? I don't get it.

I never liked Lasorda either, in part because I generally hate the Dodgers but also his self-promotional BS. And I really disliked his victory celebration when the Dodgers knocked the Giants out of the playoffs.

As for the rest of the gang, his relationship with his dead gay son seems to be one of the big reasons he's not a well-liked man.

Wasn't there some sort of issue with Lasorda and his son?

Just a minor one:

In 1991, Lasorda's son Tommy Lasorda, Jr. (commonly known to friends and family as "Spunky") died of complications related to AIDS. [3] Lasorda was estranged from his son at the time of his death, and refuses to acknowledge his son's homosexuality and the nature of his illness. According to sportswriter Bill Plaschke, when asked about the cause of death Lasorda insists that it was cancer.[4]