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(LAT) Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games.

Just Manny being Manny?

Wanting to give the young kids a chance to produce on the Dodgers? Get A-Rod off the back pages? Or a condemnation of the Red Sox world series victories?

Who will think of the children?

Manny Ramirez has tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs and will be suspended 50 games starting today, The Times has learned.

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201. Tripon Posted: May 07, 2009 at 03:57 PM (#3169090)

From Will Carroll:

UPDATE 3: Ramirez’s statement issued through the MLBPA indicates that Ramirez will not appeal his suspension and that he received the banned substance from a doctor. Ramirez was suspended under section 8.G.2 of the Joint Drug Agreement, which is “other.” In his statement, there’s no clear statement that Ramirez ever tested positive. Combined, those two facts point to a non-testable drug, but this is not confirmed. The only other known 8.G.2 suspension was Jordan Schaefer.

202. Jimmy P Posted: May 07, 2009 at 03:57 PM (#3169091)

ESPN is still calling it a PED, and Crasnick and others are linking and comparing this to A-Rod. Not quite accurate, A-Rod admitted to taking Roids, manny was suspended under the "OTHER" clause.

Does that surprise you? ESPN's not there to report, they're making money and stoking the flames.

203. Gamingboy Posted: May 07, 2009 at 03:57 PM (#3169092)

MLB Network is covering it. They've broken and done aspecial report with Harold Reynolds, Tom Verducci and whats-his-face.

They just said it is "not a steroid" on MLB network.

204. Mike Webber Posted: May 07, 2009 at 03:57 PM (#3169093)

Remind me what is the drug of choice for ADD problems is again please.

205. Guapo Posted: May 07, 2009 at 03:59 PM (#3169094)

Tom Verducci at cnnsi.com:

The source said the substance was not classified as a steroid but was clearly defined as a banned performance enhancer according to the drug agreement between baseball and its players association. Banned substances can only be taken with prior knowledge and medical clearance from baseball's drug-program administrators. Such exceptions are known as Therapeutic Use Exemptions, or TUEs. The suspension is an indication Ramirez did not have a TUE for the substance.

206. RBI King Posted: May 07, 2009 at 03:59 PM (#3169095)

It is clearly Viagra prescribed for his severe erectile dysfunction.

I trust the statement of Scott Boras and now let us pray that Manny at least puts his suspension to use with some good lovin.

-The RBI King

207. Banta Posted: May 07, 2009 at 03:59 PM (#3169096)

Just logging in on my blackberry to get in this thread before it breaks 1000. I have no opinion, just amusement at what this will become.

Oh and I also want to congratulate levski on the dbacks winning the division.

208. phredbird

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:00 PM (#3169097)

This certainly casts a pall over the Red Sox championship teams

??? because he tested positive for something that he took THIS YEAR?

No pall if you believe everyone's statements that they admit only what they got caught doing. Did you believe Rodriguez/Pettitte/Roberts on the limited timeline of their admitted use?

i'd take all this seriously if it turns out its steroids but since there's no indication so far that that is the case, i don't get the reflexive OMG TEH STERIODS!1!! THEY ARE ALL DIRTY CHEATERS posts.

but then that's just me. i've been agnostic about the whole steroids issue for quite some time.

209. RJ in TO Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:00 PM (#3169098)

Remind me what is the drug of choice for ADD problems is again please.

I don't remember the exact name, but it'd fall under the amphetamines category.

210. aleskel

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:00 PM (#3169099)

Remind me what is the drug of choice for ADD problems is again please.

Ritalin, an amphetimine.

211. Gamingboy Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:00 PM (#3169100)

Dear god. Manny will have nothing to do for 50 days. Hide all the children and pets.

212. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn)

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:00 PM (#3169101)

The real question is whether David Cameron backtracks on his "Dodgers have already won the West" piece.

213. puck Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:01 PM (#3169102)

From Will Carroll:

UPDATE 3: Ramirez’s statement issued through the MLBPA indicates that Ramirez will not appeal his suspension and that he received the banned substance from a doctor. Ramirez was suspended under section 8.G.2 of the Joint Drug Agreement, which is “other.” In his statement, there’s no clear statement that Ramirez ever tested positive. Combined, those two facts point to a non-testable drug, but this is not confirmed. The only other known 8.G.2 suspension was Jordan Schaefer.

Right, 8.G.2 seems to mean "other" not in terms of an"other" drug from what is on the list, but "other" in terms of not involving a failed test, drug conviction, etc.

Section G is titled, "Other Violations"

Sub section two:

2. A Player may be subjected to disciplinary action for just cause by the Commissioner for any Player violation of Section 2 above not referenced in Section 8.A through 8.F above.

Section 2 is the list of prohibited substances, A-F are disciplinary conditions, e.g., failing tests, being arrested for controlled substances.

214. Fat Al Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:01 PM (#3169103)

It is clearly Viagra prescribed for his severe erectile dysfunction.

I'm not sure that's so far-fetched. And would be absolutely hysterical on so many levels.

215. Esoteric Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:01 PM (#3169104)

Manny was probably licking toads.

I like this theory and it's the one I'm gonna go with.

But wow, what a clusterf**k.

216. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:01 PM (#3169105)

I took that once. You see the most amazing colors, man. And very excitedly.

"I was somewhere around Phoenix on the edge of Spring Training when the drugs began to take hold"

"Wait till you see those ####### bats."

217. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder. Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:01 PM (#3169106)

Oh if he got popped for not reporting a Ritalin script to MLB the Player's Union will fight this to the death.

218. Moses Taylor demands to be housewarmed Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:01 PM (#3169107)

Adding this up, it's pointing towards HGH.

219. hokieneer Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:01 PM (#3169108)

an update on the ESPN thing, (in case anyone missed my editted post, they are flying so quick)

after saying PED for about an hour, ESPN.com just changed it to "drug policy" but still has the video up of an anchor and Crasnick talking about it being PEDS. I assume there will be a "Sportscenter special" on at 2 pm EST, where all the talking heads will re-regurgitate the same opinions and blend those into "facts" for an hour or 2.

220. Esoteric Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:02 PM (#3169109)

Hey, on the good news side of the ledger, maybe this means the Nationals can finally break that home-team winning streak!

221. Who Swished In Your Cornflakes? Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:02 PM (#3169111)

And Schaefer was suspended for HGH, I think.

222. Guapo Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:03 PM (#3169112)

Will Carroll:

In his statement, there’s no clear statement that Ramirez ever tested positive. Combined, those two facts point to a non-testable drug, but this is not confirmed.

The first sentence of the LA Times story:

Manny Ramirez has tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs and will be suspended 50 games starting today, The Times has learned.

Huh?

223. bunyon Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:03 PM (#3169113)

So, maybe he gets a prescription for HGH and doesn't clear it with MLB. Hence, no steroid, but a known PED, and no failed test. In fact, perhaps the prescription, somehow, came to the attention of MLB and led to the suspension.

EDIT: Or not a prescription. But MLB finds out he's had/used HGH somehow, busts him, which allows him to break out the "prescription" which is easy enough to come up with.

But I agree with others, sounds like HGH.

224. Will Shave Off My Listach for an O's Win Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:03 PM (#3169114)

13 Straight Home wins is unlucky after all!

225. Gamingboy Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:04 PM (#3169115)

How would they figure out it was HGH? The "rat-line?

226. RayDiPerna

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:04 PM (#3169116)

From Will Carroll:

UPDATE 3:

I don't think it's fair to Baseball Prospectus to be re-publishing virtually every word of Will Carroll's reporting on this site.

227. Mike Webber Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:04 PM (#3169118)

So if you were making book - heck maybe one of those internet gambling sites is - what are the odds

1. Weed
2. Ritalin
3. Creatine
4. Failed test such as his urine not meeting the right temp.
5. ??

228. TerpNats Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:05 PM (#3169119)

Hey, on the good news side of the ledger, maybe this means the Nationals can finally break that home-team winning streak!

Well, Cabrera's not pitching tonight (I believe Zimmermann is starting), so they may have a chance. I emphasize the word "may."

229. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:05 PM (#3169120)

I don't think it's fair to Baseball Prospectus to be re-publishing virtually every word of Will Carroll's reporting on this site.

Nor is it fair to primates.

230. hokieneer Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:06 PM (#3169121)

I'm confused: he failed a test, he never tested positive. It was a PED, it was an unknown non-testable drug. Manny feels he had a medical reason to use this drug, but he's not fighting it.

I need to go have a smoke.

231. phredbird

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:06 PM (#3169122)

Adding this up, it's pointing towards HGH.

i thought they don't test for HGH. it takes a blood test, which they can't do. right?

232. Zac Schmitt Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:06 PM (#3169123)

what medical conditions would cause a doctor to prescribe hgh? or, more importantly, what conditions that manny ramirez could conceivably have would cause a doctor to prescribe it?

233. Perros Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:06 PM (#3169124)

I am so ashamed that I helped enable Manny to get banned for 50 games -- now the rest of the NL west stands a small chance of making things interesting.

My choice is what I choose to do,
And if I'm causing no harm, it shouldn't bother you.

Your choice is who you choose to be,
And if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

234. RJ in TO Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:06 PM (#3169125)

I don't think it's fair to Baseball Prospectus to be re-publishing virtually every word of Will Carroll's reporting on this site.

If it were behind the pay-wall, I'd probably agree with you. These updates are being churned out from the Unfiltered (Free) section, and are sourced as being Will Carroll's work, with reference to BP.

235. Al Kaline Trio Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:07 PM (#3169126)

Will the trainer come out soon with tainted towels to prove he's been using all along?

236. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:07 PM (#3169127)

If this is true, and all the talk of it not being a steroid/PED are true, then it sounds like Manny has a medical condition he wants no one to know about.

Anal fissures?

237. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:07 PM (#3169128)

Really? You view surprised>shocked? I don't. I often say that something surprised me, but didn't shock me. I'd be surprised if I roll four sixes in row on a die. I'd be shocked if I roll 24 in a row.

Am I wrong here?

Not a perfect analogy, but if I find out that an extremely elderly relative of mine had passed away, while I would be immediately shocked by the news, I wouldn't have been surprised either. Same with the Manny news. I feel that there aren't that many players from the past 10-15 years (maybe more) that haven't at least dabbled in it at some point.

238. Gamingboy Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:07 PM (#3169129)

1. Weed
2. Ritalin
3. Creatine
4. Failed test such as his urine not meeting the right temp.
5. ??

Salvia. LSD. Peyote. Mushrooms.

239. Obi One Kenobi Nil (BFFB)

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:08 PM (#3169130)

ISn't Salvia legal?

240. tribefan Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:09 PM (#3169131)

I wonder if the Manny story will get more airtime on Sportscenter than the Aaron Laffey getting moved to the bullpen story.

241. Zac Schmitt Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:09 PM (#3169132)

Really? You view surprised>shocked? I don't. I often say that something surprised me, but didn't shock me. I'd be surprised if I roll four sixes in row on a die. I'd be shocked if I roll 24 in a row.

as john says, i think he was referring to the visceral response. something can physically shock your system and still have been expected. think of going to a scary movie - you know somethings coming, but you jump all the same.

242. Hector Moreda & The Generalissimo Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:09 PM (#3169133)

ISn't Salvia legal?

Not in Texas.

243. AndrewJ Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:09 PM (#3169134)

Hey, I just got back from six weeks in Vegas. Did I miss anything???

244. Van Lingle Mungo Jerry Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:10 PM (#3169135)

Salvia. LSD. Peyote. Mushrooms.

Beaver tranquilizer. Some sort of fish paralyzer.

245. Gamingboy Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:10 PM (#3169136)

Hey, I just got back from six weeks in Vegas. Did I miss anything???

Nothing much.

246. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:10 PM (#3169137)

Hey, I just got back from six weeks in Vegas. Did I miss anything???

6 weeks? Who are you, Barry Manilow or Pete Rose?

247. J. Michael Neal Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:10 PM (#3169138)

I don't think it's fair to Baseball Prospectus to be re-publishing virtually every word of Will Carroll's reporting on this site.

It is in the free section, rather than behind the subscription wall. I don't know how much of a difference that makes.

248. Styles P. Deadball Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:10 PM (#3169139)

Ether?

I'm just running through the Hunter S Thompson shopping list...

249. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:11 PM (#3169140)

As a Red Sox fan, let me just say: Jason Bay is looking better and better every day.

250. Jimmy P Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:11 PM (#3169141)

i thought they don't test for HGH. it takes a blood test, which they can't do. right?

There's not even a reliable blood test. If he's suspended for hGH, then they found evidence he was taking it through some other means.

1. Weed
2. Ritalin
3. Creatine
4. Failed test such as his urine not meeting the right temp.
5. ??

I'd say Viagra's probably up there. What are some treatments for VDs?

251. GregQ Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:11 PM (#3169142)

I think Peyote is legal if he joins some religious group. I seem to remember that it was used for some religious ceremony.

252. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:11 PM (#3169143)

Beaver tranquilizer.

Hey man, I've been nowhere near Manny Ramirez!

253. Gamingboy Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:12 PM (#3169144)

I'd say that it was clearly a sample of Matt Wieters' sweat that made Manny test positive. If Matt Wieters ever had to sweat.

254. RayDiPerna

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:12 PM (#3169145)

If it were behind the pay-wall, I'd probably agree with you. These updates are being churned out from the Unfiltered (Free) section, and are sourced as being Will Carroll's work, with reference to BP.

I don't think the Unfiltered section is free, but, regardless, that is utterly irrelevant, as is whether the copied material is "sourced" or not.

Whatever. It just seems to me that copying all of his stuff here crosses a line.

255. deputydrew Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:12 PM (#3169146)

No weed, no amphetimenes, no PED. What's left?

1. Spider bite
2. Adamantium
3. The One Ring
4. Midichlorians
5. Father killed by a bad guy in the alley behind a theater
6. Born on Krypton

I'm gonna go with #2 for now.

256. J.C. Bradbury Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:12 PM (#3169147)

WC via Twitter (not BPro)

Anyone ready to hear the one word that will make this go bigger? Novitzky.

257. Dave Spiwak Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:12 PM (#3169148)

Here's the entire .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address):

The Office of the Commissioner of Baseball announced today that outfielder Manny Ramirez of the Los Angeles Dodgers has been suspended for 50 games for a violation of Major League Baseball's Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program. The suspension of Ramirez is effective immediately.

Kind of short on details. But nowhere does it say PEDs or "failed test."

258. robinred

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:12 PM (#3169149)

6 weeks? Who are you, Barry Manilow or Pete Rose?

Neither. AndrewJ=Celine Dion

259. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:12 PM (#3169151)

710 AM in LA has now gone to ALL-MANNY-ALL-DAY coverage until further notice

260. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn)

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:12 PM (#3169152)

As a Red Sox fan, let me just say: Jason Bay is looking better and better every day.

I'm confident, for reasons that have yet to come to light, that Jason Bay is history's greatest monster.

261. puck Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:13 PM (#3169153)

Guapo--Carroll is likely referring to the mention of Drug Policy Section 8.G.2 in the MLBPA statement. That implies discplinary measures were brought for a reason outside of sections 8 A-F. Sections A-F include failed tests, drug convictions, etc.

262. Player X Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:13 PM (#3169154)

1. Weed
2. Ritalin
3. Creatine
4. Failed test such as his urine not meeting the right temp.
5. ??

Pud Galvin's monkey juice.

263. Swedish Chef Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:13 PM (#3169155)

Salvia. LSD. Peyote. Mushrooms.

Can you really get prescriptions from Doctor Strange?

264. Gamingboy Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:13 PM (#3169156)

Bob Costas now on MLB Network by phone, for those of you who care.

265. AndrewJ Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:13 PM (#3169158)

Hey, I just got back from six weeks in Vegas. Did I miss anything???

6 weeks? Who are you, Barry Manilow or Pete Rose?

I was channeling Krusty during "Who Shot Mr. Burns? Part One."

266. Moneyball can't buy you love (Joey B.) Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:13 PM (#3169159)

It's possible he got busted by baseball's new internal Department of Investigations, like Jordan Schafer did. Someone might have ratted him out, or they may have intercepted a package or something.

267. Obi One Kenobi Nil (BFFB)

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:14 PM (#3169160)

that guy is back? did a baseball player run over his dog?

268. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:14 PM (#3169161)

No weed, no amphetimenes, no PED. What's left?

1. Spider bite
2. Adamantium
3. The One Ring
4. Midichlorians
5. Father killed by a bad guy in the alley behind a theater
6. Born on Krypton

7. Shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die???

269. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:14 PM (#3169162)

what medical conditions would cause a doctor to prescribe hgh? or, more importantly, what conditions that manny ramirez could conceivably have would cause a doctor to prescribe it?

Sex change?

270. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:14 PM (#3169163)

Neither. AndrewJ=Celine Dion

Yeah? Then...Hey Andrew J, #### you!

271. Dock Ellis on Acid

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:14 PM (#3169164)

Can you be suspended for a "drug of abuse" if you were prescribed medicinal weed?

272. zonk Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:15 PM (#3169166)

Everyone is missing the big picture here.

It's clear we need to stop the season and replay the 2008 playoffs - especially the Cubs/Dodgers NLDS... and we need to do it quickly before Zambrano gets suspended.

273. RJ in TO Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:15 PM (#3169167)

Can you be suspended for a "drug of abuse" if you were prescribed medicinal weed?

Probably, if you were stupid enough to not arrange for a theraputic use waiver.

274. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder. Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:15 PM (#3169168)

Can you be suspended for a "drug of abuse" if you were prescribed medicinal weed?

If you forget to tell MLB.

275. Dave Spiwak Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:15 PM (#3169169)

If it were behind the pay-wall, I'd probably agree with you. These updates are being churned out from the Unfiltered (Free) section, and are sourced as being Will Carroll's work, with reference to BP.

I don't think the Unfiltered section is free, but, regardless, that is utterly irrelevant, as is whether the copied material is "sourced" or not.

Whatever. It just seems to me that copying all of his stuff here crosses a line.

It is free. I don't have a subscription, so I went there to check it out. Thus I don't know how quoting a free page on that site is any different than quoting from the LA Times or ESPN or some random blog.

276. Swedish Chef Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:16 PM (#3169173)

Can you be suspended for a "drug of abuse" if you were prescribed medicinal weed?

As you can only get fined for recreational weed, that would be unlikely.

277. Jimmy P Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:17 PM (#3169174)

278. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:17 PM (#3169175)

279. bunyon Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:17 PM (#3169176)

and we need to do it quickly before Zambrano gets suspended.

I'd think you'd want to hold off at least 4-6 weeks.

280. dingo powered war machine (CoB) Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:18 PM (#3169177)

None of those sites have ever threatened this site with a lawsuit.

Whaaa?

Really?

When did I miss that?

281. Dave Spiwak Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:18 PM (#3169178)

It is free. I don't have a subscription, so I went there to check it out. Thus I don't know how quoting a free page on that site is any different than quoting from the LA Times or ESPN or some random blog.

None of those sites have ever threatened this site with a lawsuit.

Touché!

282. birdlives is one crazy ninja Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:18 PM (#3169179)

The island told Manny to take a banned substance.

283. Gamingboy Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:19 PM (#3169180)

I have just realized that "Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters" sounds like a slang term for drugs.

284. salvomania Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:19 PM (#3169181)

ISn't Salvia legal?

It better be, or else I'm in big trouble....

285. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:19 PM (#3169182)

When did I miss that?

Were you here in 2001 or thereabouts?

286. Obi One Kenobi Nil (BFFB)

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:19 PM (#3169183)

cowies!

287. zonk Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:19 PM (#3169184)

It is free. I don't have a subscription, so I went there to check it out. Thus I don't know how quoting a free page on that site is any different than quoting from the LA Times or ESPN or some random blog.

None of those sites have ever threatened this site with a lawsuit.

Actually, I believe the AP made a universal threat to all blogs that quote their work... not that this came from the AP, but still

288. Sexy Lizard Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:19 PM (#3169185)

No weed, no amphetimenes, no PED. What's left?

1. Spider bite
2. Adamantium
3. The One Ring
4. Midichlorians
5. Father killed by a bad guy in the alley behind a theater
6. Born on Krypton

Vril!

289. devo Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:19 PM (#3169186)

Illegally obtained pineal juice to keep him young?

Hot jazz murder music!

290. Repoz

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:20 PM (#3169187)

Anyone ready to hear the one word that will make this go bigger? Novitzky.

Well...at least he's moving away from Richard Meltzer's quotes.

291. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:20 PM (#3169188)

I think I'll take Tom Verducci and Will Carroll citing "unnamed sources" about as seriously as I take Selena Roberts citing "unnamed sources".

292. RJ in TO Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:21 PM (#3169189)

When did I miss that?

Back in around 2001 - it was largely due to the similarity in names at the time (Baseball Prospectus vs. Baseball Primer). I've always assumed that the name change at the time of registration was intended to eliminate any future threat of a lawsuit.

293. gef the talking mongoose Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:21 PM (#3169190)

1. Spider bite
2. Adamantium
3. The One Ring
4. Midichlorians
5. Father killed by a bad guy in the alley behind a theater
6. Born on Krypton

Can-D or Chew-Z. JJ-180.

294. Gamingboy Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:22 PM (#3169191)

We still have yet to hear from Lord Haw-Haw! I am disappointed!

295. Styles P. Deadball Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:22 PM (#3169193)

No weed, no amphetimenes, no PED. What's left?

1. Spider bite
2. Adamantium
3. The One Ring
4. Midichlorians
5. Father killed by a bad guy in the alley behind a theater
6. Born on Krypton

Illegally obtained pineal juice to keep him young?

Gamma Rays

296. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader

Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:23 PM (#3169194)

We still have yet to hear from Lord Haw-Haw! I am disappointed!

Boras' hand was getting sweaty so he took a break. Patience, Gamingboy!

297. J. Michael Neal Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:23 PM (#3169195)

How does this affect Frank Tanana?

Is this even legal?

298. tribefan Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:23 PM (#3169196)

1. Spider bite
2. Adamantium
3. The One Ring
4. Midichlorians
5. Father killed by a bad guy in the alley behind a theater
6. Born on Krypton

Thetan powers. He's obviously become a Scientologist.

299. bunyon Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:23 PM (#3169197)

"unnamed sources"

I've never liked this term, regardless of how credible they are. The source has a name, the reporter simply won't reveal it. I think it should always be referred to as a source unwilling to be identified. That makes it more clear that the source won't go fully on the record and lets a person judge whether or not that is justified (there are going to be whistle-blower cases where this is necessary, no matter how it comes off).

300. Gamingboy Posted: May 07, 2009 at 04:24 PM (#3169198)

No weed, no amphetimenes, no PED. What's left?

1. Spider bite
2. Adamantium
3. The One Ring
4. Midichlorians
5. Father killed by a bad guy in the alley behind a theater
6. Born on Krypton

Illegally obtained pineal juice to keep him young?

Gamma Rays

The blood of a Mongoose.

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