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Monday, June 29, 2009

Marchman: I got a case of Pabst and Steve Phillips is on the tube

Marchman...Out For Blood!

As I’ve written before, Steve Phillips’ announcing schtick doesn’t outrage me, but it’s induced more than the odd eye roll from this direction, and I’ll be taking a drink every time he claims David Wright isn’t having a good year, every time he blames Omar Minaya for guys like Jose Reyes getting hurt, every time he tells some inane story about Fred Wilpon, every time he intimates he’d be doing a better job running the Mets than the people who are actually doing so, every time he puts the team’s failure to be doing better than two games out down to clubhouse problems/atmospherics rather than the shortstop, first baseman, center fielder, no. 2 and no. 3 starters and top setup man being hurt, and chugging if he mentions Mo Vaughn or Jeromy Burnitz. My liver will check in later.

Repoz Posted: June 29, 2009 at 07:54 AM | 126 comment(s)
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   1. Cold Prosimian  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 07:22 AM (#3236428)
I had to laugh last night on SNB when he said (paraphrasing) "David Wright has really changed his approach this year by shortening his swing and trying to drive the ball gap-to-gap, and that's why he's leading the league in hitting.....***(is likely shown a graphic by the stats guy illustrating Wright's career-high K rate)****... which is why his high strikeout totals are surprising." What a moron.
   2. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 07:23 AM (#3236429)
Does anyone have Tim's e-mail? Might want to shoot him a line to see if he's dead or not.
   3. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 08:18 AM (#3236462)
Contestant: Life lessons for $200, Alex.
Alex: I got a case of Pabst and Steve Phillips is on the tube
Contestant: What is compounding one mistake by adding another?
Alex: Correct. Choose again
   4. Harry Balsagne Teaches The Correct Way to Hit!!  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 08:49 AM (#3236482)
As I’ve written before, Steve Phillips’ announcing schtick doesn’t outrage me, but it’s induced more than the odd eye roll from this direction, and I’ll be taking a drink every time he claims David Wright isn’t having a good year, every time he blames Omar Minaya for guys like Jose Reyes getting hurt, every time he tells some inane story about Fred Wilpon, every time he intimates he’d be doing a better job running the Mets than the people who are actually doing so, every time he puts the team’s failure to be doing better than two games out down to clubhouse problems/atmospherics rather than the shortstop, first baseman, center fielder, no. 2 and no. 3 starters and top setup man being hurt, and chugging if he mentions Mo Vaughn or Jeromy Burnitz.


What a painfully long sentence.

I am shockingly sober.


Maybe you're not holding the can right, Tim.
   5. Justin T  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 09:27 AM (#3236513)
Phillips said once early in the game that Wright wasn't having a good year. After that, it was pretty tame. Not to say Phillips said intelligent things - he said very dumb things - but they were less pointed when it came to the Mets. He stuck more to dumb in-game strategy last night.
   6. Harry Balsagne Teaches The Correct Way to Hit!!  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 09:30 AM (#3236516)
He must have been talked to about toning it down. I can't believe ESPN doesn't care that Phillips is alienating so many viewers with his BS. The other broadcasters all seem to hate his guts too.
   7. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 09:42 AM (#3236528)
I think post 6 is on point. Phillips has been SO vocal and NY fans SO peeved at least SOME of that has to have filtered back to the suits.

By the way, if fans want to know how Marty treated Adam Dunn consider this a taste.

"And that's a 2-run homer for Dunn who leads the clubs in home runs, runs scored, walks and leads the league in strikeouts. You wonder if it's worth it".

That's a direct quote by the way. I heard Marty say that via MLB audio about 3 years ago and still treasure the moment...........
   8. BeanoCook  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 09:50 AM (#3236540)
Was Steve Phillips the last rube GM? Seems like there aren't any current GM's that would be easy to fool.
   9. Watch out for the door, Omar...(Met Fan Charlie)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:06 AM (#3236561)
Jeezusgod, I can't wait for Reyes, Beltran & Delgado to return...and yes, I know I might be saying the same thing about all 3 after they've been activated...
   10. Tim Marchman  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM (#3236564)
#3 is spot on. First case of bad beer I've bought since college, and surely the last.

This would be the place to ask—which broadcaster is the all-time vendetta champion? I was thinking about this last night and I couldn't come up with any really good, Dick Young vs. Tom Seaver-type examples of an announcer having it in for a particular player over a long period of time. But there must have been some.
   11. Watch out for the door, Omar...(Met Fan Charlie)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM (#3236570)
Short term: Gary Cohen v. Lastings Milledge

And of course the aforementioned Brenneman/Dunn contratemps...
   12. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:18 AM (#3236572)
Tim:

A few to consider:

Marty Brennaman vs. Adam Dunn

Harry Caray vs. Bill Melton

I will ponder some more
   13. Big Red Basketball (NJ)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM (#3236577)
Michael Kay vs. Mike Mussina had its moments.

EDIT: If we expand it to just general media you get the epic war of Pete Abraham vs. Alex Rodriguez.
   14. Harry Balsagne Teaches The Correct Way to Hit!!  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:26 AM (#3236580)
Harry Caray vs. Bill Melton

I'd love to hear some audio of this.
   15. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:28 AM (#3236581)
Harry:

Wouldn't suprise me if someone had it on YouTube
   16. Ryan Jones  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:32 AM (#3236582)
EDIT: If we expand it to just general media you get the epic war of the general media vs. Alex Rodriguez.


Fixed that for you.
   17. Obama Bomaye  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM (#3236585)
Phil Rizzuto vs. the Huckleberry Guild
   18. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:44 AM (#3236588)
Was Steve Phillips the last rube GM? Seems like there aren't any current GM's that would be easy to fool.


He's the only recent one that comes to mind for me. I know folks here'll call other ones idiots, but I don't really see anyone with an IQ anywhere near room temperature other than Phillips.
   19. Ryan Jones  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:49 AM (#3236599)
I know folks here'll call other ones idiots, but I don't really see anyone with an IQ anywhere near room temperature other than Phillips.


This insult is much better when you live in a country which uses the Celsius scale.
   20. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM (#3236601)
Given the state of the M's on the field roster I think Bavasi deserves a mention. That is one sorry batting order. If Jack hadn't picked up Russell The Muscle it would be Ichiro and the 8 dwarfs. Junior is hitting .218 and is arguably their third best offensive player.

The man isn't there any more but yowsers.......
   21. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:22 AM (#3236624)
This insult is much better when you live in a country which uses the Celsius scale.
In Phillips' case, it coincidentally doesn't matter.

While they didn't broadcast the games, all of WIP had it in for Scott Rolen (not that Rolen isn't kind of sour-#####). They couldn't quite muster that level of hate for the wall-fearing Abreu.

The Phillies announcers have generally been supportive of the players without getting overly-fanboyish about it.

EDIT: Heh, didn't foresee the nannying. sour-#####. adj. Have the qualities of a sourpuss.
   22. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:24 AM (#3236627)
First case of bad beer I've bought since college, and surely the last.
Tim, even my sons(22/20) scoff at PBR. :)
   23. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:29 AM (#3236634)
While I prefer quality in hard liquor, I'm a beer plebe and have been known to drink PBR.
   24. Player X  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:37 AM (#3236645)
While I prefer quality in hard liquor, I'm a beer plebe and have been known to drink PBR.


PFBR was my father's beer of choice after Schlitz changed their formula in the late 1970s. Was bad then, is bad now.
   25. Watch out for the door, Omar...(Met Fan Charlie)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM (#3236646)
Sourpuss-y, Edmundo?
   26. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:39 AM (#3236650)
I'm a beer snob* more or less, but a wine plebe. You can get really good beer at twice the price of crappy beer but wine scales up at a much greater slope.

*Although when I was young and drank lots of beer I was not a snob. As I slowed my consumption down to pretty much 4-5 beers a week, I can afford the more expensive stuff.
   27. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM (#3236653)
Sourpuss-y, Edmundo?
Yep, that's the right nanny avoidance spelling. I'm just not quite on my game yet today.
   28. STEROIDS!!!!!  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM (#3236654)
It's kind of funny to think of media members hating Rolen. Since he came to Toronto he's been Mr. Gritty hard-nosed veteran gritface.
   29. BFFB  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:42 AM (#3236658)
Most lagers are too gassy, I'll stick to Ale for my beer fix
   30. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:44 AM (#3236661)
Most lagers are too gassy, I'll stick to Ale for my beer fix

But nothing goes better with a meal than a good, crisp lager. Makes me hungry just thinking about it. Plus, nothing will announce your virile presence to the world with more pomp than a 7 am beer fart that the neighbors feel 3 floors down.
   31. Lassus  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:47 AM (#3236664)
180. Lassus Posted: June 28, 2009 at 11:28 PM (#3236283)

Between being possibly swept and listening to this ####### piece of idiot #### ########## ####### ####### garbage ####### ########### abomination pencildick jackass, this is turning in the worst night of my entire life.


I just wonder if we're the only ones who think this, although if the human race can't see Phillips as a cancer, I don't see much hope.
   32. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:49 AM (#3236666)
As I slowed my consumption down to pretty much 4-5 beers a week, I can afford the more expensive stuff.


That's the problem. I'll go out with some friends and we'll be a t a bar for a few hours. I prefer to not get hammered, so I'll go with something I can metabolized close too as quickly as I can drink it.
   33. STEROIDS!!!!!  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM (#3236672)
When was the last time an announcer got canned for just being terrible? Unfortunately we're stuck with this knob until he says something racist or is caught fondling or smoking something he shouldn't.
   34. SJ and the pants of freedom.  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM (#3236690)
Fired, I don't think so, plenty of people get reassigned, or not renewed.
   35. Repoz  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 12:11 PM (#3236691)
he says something racist or is caught fondling or smoking something he shouldn't.

Bob Gamere rulz!
   36. Harveys Wallbangers  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 12:12 PM (#3236692)
I thought Vince Cotroneo was let go by the Rangers because leadership thought he stunk.
   37. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 12:24 PM (#3236700)
Hawk Harrelson got let go by the Red Sox because he was too outspoken; which is probably why they hired him in the first place.
   38. Devin has a deep burning passion for fuzzy socks  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 12:48 PM (#3236727)
I don't know if they gave a reason when they finally let Fran Healy go, but given how long he was there, I can't see them suddenly realizing he was dullness personified.
   39. BFFB  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:11 PM (#3236764)
But nothing goes better with a meal than a good, crisp lager. Makes me hungry just thinking about it. Plus, nothing will announce your virile presence to the world with more pomp than a 7 am beer fart that the neighbors feel 3 floors down.


Then you've never experienced the "real ale fart", they have to bring in the army to institute a cordon
   40. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:15 PM (#3236769)
Then you've never experienced the "real ale fart", they have to bring in the army to institute a cordon

I take this as a challenge. Beer farts at 40 paces! But not at dawn. No way I'm getting up at ####### dawn after drinking beer all night.
   41. phredbird  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:27 PM (#3236793)
bill plaschke vs. manny ramirez is turning into a ridiculous spectacle.

the lead article on the sports page on sunday was a rant about his trip to see manny at his minor league assignment, trying to whip fans into an anti-steroid frenzy. the headline was 'cheat thrills' ... i'd post it, but this guy just makes me ill. it's not worth it.
   42. Harry Balsagne Teaches The Correct Way to Hit!!  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:37 PM (#3236811)
PBR and such like swill beers are extremely trendy among the hipsters here in Minneapolis. It's beyond obnoxious, especially considering that a large percentage of these kids are trust fund babies whose parents are putting them through art school and paying their rent. They could afford a decent beer and some clothes that weren't pilfered from a dumpster.
   43. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:40 PM (#3236819)
PBR and such like swill beers are extremely trendy among the hipsters here in Minneapolis.

This fad swept through NYC a few years ago. Belgian, German and craft beers seem to be the new fad from what I can tell. I don't hit the bars the way I used to, though, so my sample size is small.
   44. Win one for Agrippa (haplo53)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:45 PM (#3236826)
Belgian, German and craft beers seem to be the new fad from what I can tell.


Those seem way too expensive and non-ironic to be what the hip crowd drinks.
   45. Ball Point Pen Guy (Will Young)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:47 PM (#3236829)

This would be the place to ask—which broadcaster is the all-time vendetta champion? I was thinking about this last night and I couldn't come up with any really good, Dick Young vs. Tom Seaver-type examples of an announcer having it in for a particular player over a long period of time. But there must have been some.


Bert Blyleven vs Scott Baker a few years ago was pretty obnoxious. Dick Bremer vs. Matt Garza is still annoying.
   46. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:49 PM (#3236833)
Those seem way too expensive and non-ironic to be what the hip crowd drinks.

Ironic non-irony is the new black.
   47. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:49 PM (#3236834)
How do you drink something ironically?

I'm being totally serious here. I think I know what it means to do something ironically (To do something so out, that it's in), but I'm never sure.
   48. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:52 PM (#3236839)
How do you drink something ironically?
Pour on the iron, baby.
   49. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:54 PM (#3236843)
Belgian, German and craft beers seem to be the new fad from what I can tell.
My son turned me on to Leffe Blonde, after his semester in the Netherlands. My wife got me a case for Father's Day. Umm,umm. It's some tasty stuff even at ~$2 a bottle in the case.
   50. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:55 PM (#3236844)
I'm being toatally serious here. I think I know what it means to do something ironically (To do something so out, that it's in), but I'm never sure.

It's to your credit you don't know. The important thing is that no matter what you do, you're seen doing it. It's the gist of the new Heinken slogan "You are who you are when nobody's watching". A slogan like this can only appeal to phonies exhausted by the charade that is their very being and so is clearly targeted at hipsters.
   51. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:57 PM (#3236847)
The two dudes in that Heineken ad rocking out to Biz Markie strike me as hipsterish from my vantagepoint in suburban Connecticut.
   52. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 01:59 PM (#3236850)
The two dudes in that Heineken ad rocking out to Biz Markie strike me as hipsterish from my vantagepoint in suburban Connecticut.

Rocking out to Biz Markie is very hipsterish.
   53. The District Attorney  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:02 PM (#3236856)
It's the gist of the new Heinken slogan "You are who you are when nobody's watching". A slogan like this can only appeal to phonies exhausted by the charade that is their very being and so is clearly targeted at hipsters.
"I fake it so real I am beyond fake" - Hole

The two dudes in that Heineken ad rocking out to Biz Markie
I have to say I always get a kick out of this commercial. It's the cabbie that does it, of course.
   54. RB in NYC (Now with Resolutions!)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:02 PM (#3236858)
How do you drink something ironically?

I'm being totally serious here. I think I know what it means to do something ironically (To do something so out, that it's in), but I'm never sure.
Because you're drinking something "blue collar" and "poor" while actually being an arist, ideally a struggling artist (even if not actually struggling money-wise thanks to the cash provided by Mom and Dad, as noted above) so you're poor, but you aren't "poor."

If you think that sounds incredibly stupid, just wait until you see some of the facial hair and/or sneakers worn by this crowd. It's all I can not to push them in front of the L
   55. BFFB  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:05 PM (#3236866)
If you enjoyed Leffe then you need to get your hands on some Erdinger.

Infact, I think I'm going to crack open a bottle right now.
   56. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:05 PM (#3236867)
If you think that sounds incredibly stupid, just wait until you see some of the facial hair and/or sneakers worn by this crowd. It's all I can not to push them in front of the L

I miss Williamsburg because I still have most of my friends there, but I don't miss trust fund hipster douches pretending to grow up the way I actually had to. Common People by Pulp is my permanent #1 all time pop song because of my Williamsburg experience. That whole album. God bless you Jarvis Cocker!
   57. Dock Ellis on Acid  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:10 PM (#3236870)
I live in Williamsburg but I drink PBR not because I'm chic but because I'm cheap.
   58. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:11 PM (#3236871)

If you think that sounds incredibly stupid, just wait until you see some of the facial hair and/or sneakers worn by this crowd.


I think that I see some of that look in New Haven, but I'm not sure if those dudes are poor college students or not.
   59. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:13 PM (#3236874)
I live in Williamsburg but I drink PBR not because I'm chic but because I'm cheap.

See, that's perfectly ok. God knows it's cheap.

Whereabouts are you? I used to live on Roebling between Grand and Metropolitan. I still consider the Abbey my local. In fact, I think I'll head there tonight. You've guys have gotten me thirsty with all this beer talk.
   60. Harry Balsagne Teaches The Correct Way to Hit!!  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:16 PM (#3236878)
If you think that sounds incredibly stupid, just wait until you see some of the facial hair and/or sneakers worn by this crowd. It's all I can not to push them in front of the L

There's a kid I work with (at a modern art museum) who is the son of the lead architect for the firm that built the new addition to our building. He wears Prada shoes with jeans and t-shirts that look like they were run over by a shi*t wagon, carries a tattered umbrella everywhere, and wears hot pink Wayfarers.

I'm just waiting for the day that a retarded homeless person beats him up for stealing his look.
   61. rfloh  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:16 PM (#3236879)
55. BFFB Posted: June 29, 2009 at 03:05 PM (#3236866)
If you enjoyed Leffe then you need to get your hands on some Erdinger.


Do Erdinger brew anything other than wheat beers? They brew ales?
   62. Al Kaline Trio  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:17 PM (#3236880)
When was the last time an announcer got canned for just being terrible? Unfortunately we're stuck with this knob until he says something racist or is caught fondling or smoking something he shouldn't.


I think Rex "The turd burglar" Hudler had this happen to him thank god.
   63. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:17 PM (#3236881)
jeans and t-shirts that look like they were run over by a shi*t wagon

That probably cost more than a business suit!
   64. Win one for Agrippa (haplo53)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:19 PM (#3236885)
You've guys have gotten me thirsty with all this beer talk.


Same here.

Edmundo, you should try out Monk's next time you're in Center City - all sorts of good beers (with a heavy Belgian presence) and good Belgian food. It's probably my favorite restaurant in the entire city.
   65. phredbird  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:21 PM (#3236888)
i don't often drink beer, but when i do i prefer dos equis.

actually, i fluctuate between bud (which is really an excellent beer for the money) and any one of a number of good belgians if i feel like spending a lot.

i love that dos equis campaign. it's just silly enough not to be tiring, and the production values are so cool, the way they do the fake old footage of twmim doing his thing ...

don't we have a poster with that handle?
   66. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:23 PM (#3236892)
Not Abita phredbird?
   67. Dock Ellis on Acid  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:24 PM (#3236893)
Shooty, I actually live close enough to the edge that hipsters accuse me of modifying the boundaries so that I can claim that I live in Williamsburg instead of Bushwick. I live on Graham near the Montrose stop.

Duck-Duck is closest to me but Sweet-Ups and Daddy's are my watering holes. Sweet-Ups recently started a 12-5 happy hour with $1 mini-pitchers. I thank my lucky stars they didn't have that when I was unemployed.
   68. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:28 PM (#3236896)
Shooty, I actually live close enough to the edge that hipsters accuse me of modifying the boundaries so that I can claim that I live in Williamsburg instead of Bushwick. I live on Graham near the Montrose stop.

I think Bushwick is cooler now than W'burg so you're one up anyway. Cool Williamsburg is just a distant dream. The Abbey has 2 for 1 domestics with liberal buybacks but $1 mini pitchers is tough to beat. Damn.
   69. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:33 PM (#3236902)
Because you're drinking something "blue collar" and "poor" while actually being an arist, ideally a struggling artist (even if not actually struggling money-wise thanks to the cash provided by Mom and Dad, as noted above) so you're poor, but you aren't "poor."


I think these guys used to be called slackers when I was in my 20s. They'd work at some bar or pizza joint or as a bicycle messenger. I had a low paying job at the time myself, but I was a security guard, which wasn't anywhere near as cool. You were "the man" at the hospital with a lot of responsibility, but little authority and even less pay. Plus you had to look sort of clean cut. Working at a Border's would have been cooler.
   70. BFFB  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:34 PM (#3236905)
Do Erdinger brew anything other than wheat beers? They brew ales?


I've seen them do other beers for the German market, only ever seen weissbier to buy in the UK.
   71. Mark Donelson  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:35 PM (#3236908)
Shooty, I actually live close enough to the edge that hipsters accuse me of modifying the boundaries so that I can claim that I live in Williamsburg instead of Bushwick.

Wait, I thought it was cooler and more hipsterish now to live in Bushwick--isn't Billyburg so 2003 to these folks?

EDIT: Uh-oh, I think I just called Shooty hipsterish accidentally!
   72. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:35 PM (#3236909)
I think these guys used to be called slackers when I was in my 20s.

But, see, slackers are actually poor and don't give a crap. You can respect a slacker. I mean, at least it's an ethos.
   73. b  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:37 PM (#3236911)
Chimay...I like the blue bottles better...oh, and if you can find the cheese that the same monks make, I'd be all over it
   74. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:40 PM (#3236914)
EDIT: Uh-oh, I think I just called Shooty hipsterish accidentally!

Meh, it's all right. If you saw me in my khakis and business blue shirt right now, you'd be ashamed!
   75. RB in NYC (Now with Resolutions!)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:44 PM (#3236921)
But, see, slackers are actually poor and don't give a crap. You can respect a slacker. I mean, at least it's an ethos.
Right, I've always thought there was something inherently honest in being a slacker. Whereas hipsters tend to remind me of this
   76. BFFB  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:48 PM (#3236924)
If I didn't like to buy stuff I could quite happily be a slacker.....
   77. phredbird  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:48 PM (#3236927)
shooty, i guess you've heard me talk about my louisiana origins. i don't much care for abita, its too hoppy, but i wouldn't turn it down.
my tastes are for pilsners and lagers and the blond ales.
of course, after a couple of pints i'm good for just about anything.
   78. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:50 PM (#3236930)
of course, after a couple of pints i'm good for just about anything.

I wish you were a chick with a big rack.

Edit: I think the other beer we drank a lot in Mississippi was Turbo Dog. Am I remembering the name right?
   79. Dock Ellis on Acid  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:51 PM (#3236933)
Right, I've always thought there was something inherently honest in being a slacker. Whereas hipsters tend to remind me of this

I'd agree with that. Slackers had far less pretensions than hipsters. As someone noted above, what's important to a hipster is being seen, especially being seen in the image you have spend a lot of time and thought into projecting. A slacker may have similar tastes in music, books and film as a hipster does, but a slacker doesn't care how other people judge his tastes, and is far less quick to judge you for yours.
   80. phredbird  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:54 PM (#3236935)
ya, turbo dog. i think its a darker ale. i'm just not into that stuff. the climate in louisiana is too hot for it. even though i live in CA now, my beer habits are formed.
   81. Ryan Jones  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:56 PM (#3236938)
don't we have a poster with that handle?


Yes we do, and he's a big fan of the ad campaign.
   82. Every Inge Counts  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:56 PM (#3236940)
Abita is pretty good, though I don't think their seasonal beers are that good (compared to how popular they are).
   83. hokieneer  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:56 PM (#3236941)
jeans and t-shirts that look like they were run over by a shi*t wagon

That probably cost more than a business suit!


This might be one of the redeeming qualities about living in a small, poor, rural area. People who have money are unique enough that they don't' have to be ironic or an idiot for attention. And the people who look like their entire outfit costs $10, really did spend $10 dollars on it.
   84. Superunknown Gary Geiger Counter  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:58 PM (#3236945)
A slacker may have similar tastes in music, books and film as a hipster does, but a slacker doesn't care how other people judge his tastes.


A-ha, so it's easy to confuse them without my field guide.
   85. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 02:59 PM (#3236947)
   86. phredbird  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 03:01 PM (#3236950)
of course, after a couple of pints i'm good for just about anything.

I wish you were a chick with a big rack.


sorry, i don't even have man boobs.
   87. davoarid in MN  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 03:21 PM (#3236969)
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PBR and such like swill beers are extremely trendy among the hipsters here in Minneapolis. It's beyond obnoxious, especially considering that a large percentage of these kids are trust fund babies whose parents are putting them through art school and paying their rent. They could afford a decent beer and some clothes that weren't pilfered from a dumpster.
Is that the reasoning behind it? I just moved to Minneapolis from small-town North Dakota and couldn't understand why PBR is so popular. I'd only heard of PBR through "Blue Velvet" before coming out here.
   88. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 03:37 PM (#3236983)
Edmundo, you should try out Monk's next time you're in Center City - all sorts of good beers (with a heavy Belgian presence) and good Belgian food. It's probably my favorite restaurant in the entire city.

Thanks, hap. I put out to my wife, and she'll go on ChowHound and give me low-down. We in economizing mode (we've gotten the 20+% staff cuts warning by end of 2010) so price is a consideration. The one thing I haven't economized on is beer, except that I really don't drink THAT much so I can get away with it.
   89. Dayn  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 03:44 PM (#3236990)
I think the other beer we drank a lot in Mississippi was Turbo Dog. Am I remembering the name right?

Shooty, where'd you live in Mississippi?

And this is on topic.
   90. Harry Balsagne Teaches The Correct Way to Hit!!  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 03:45 PM (#3236992)
Is that the reasoning behind it? I just moved to Minneapolis from small-town North Dakota and couldn't understand why PBR is so popular. I'd only heard of PBR through "Blue Velvet" before coming out here.

It's just part of the whole hipster affectation, that being a look that is sort of a gutter-punk offshoot, where you're too poor and grungy to afford beer that doesn't taste like warm urine, nor does taste really matter, because you're just trying to numb the existential angst.

Also, a dash of the whole hipster irony thing could be in play.

I'm assuming you've seen the PBR billboard paintings/murals near the Bulldog and Mortimer's.
   91. hokieneer  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 03:54 PM (#3236999)
Dayn, loved that video

"So ironic it's not, so un-ironic it is"
   92. SJ and the pants of freedom.  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 03:59 PM (#3237002)
If I get drunk and sing in the cab ride home, that makes me a hipster?

f that s.
   93. Barnaby Jones  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 04:08 PM (#3237008)
Last time I had Turbo Dog it tasted like the 15+ year old bottle of Bud Dry I found in the basement refrigerator when I helped my mom clean out her house. The resemblance was both uncanny and unpleasant.
   94. still hunting for a halo-red october (in Delphi)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 04:44 PM (#3237036)
Bert Blyleven vs Scott Baker a few years ago was pretty obnoxious.


What's the story with this?
   95. Greg Franklin  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 05:32 PM (#3237083)
I've caught Phillips' act a handful of times on SNB, and it is toned down from when he was a color man on ESPN's other baseball broadcasts. Back then, not only was he a doofus regarding on-the-field analysis, he brought his BBTonight pontificating on steroids/All-Star-Ballots/trade-rumors to the color booth.

Shooty's link is good, but for my money the canonical hipster Onion article is 37 Record-Store Clerks Feared Dead In Yo La Tengo Concert Disaster (apologies to Repoz).

To me PBR tastes like Budweiser and is cheaper, so if you have the choice, that's the choice.
   96. Kevin Sweet Child Romine (aco)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 06:05 PM (#3237119)
The Abbey has 2 for 1 domestics with liberal buybacks but $1 mini pitchers is tough to beat. Damn.

The Levee on Berry comes close: $4 for a shot and a beer, plus all the cheez balls you can stuff into your drunken maw. It's a good thing I moved out of Williamsburg, really.
   97. Kevin Sweet Child Romine (aco)  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 06:07 PM (#3237123)
To me PBR tastes like Budweiser and is cheaper, so if you have the choice, that's the choice.

If you can find it, I recommend Sierra Dorada. It's the cheapest beer in my neighborhood and actually palatable. Plus, it's semi-imported!
   98. Santanaland Diaries  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 06:27 PM (#3237176)
but a slacker doesn't care how other people judge his tastes, and is far less quick to judge you for yours.


Reminds me of one of my favorite jokes.

Q: How many indie-rock fans does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: (said witheringly) You mean you don't know?
   99. Petunia: Pursuing a Prurient Pastime, All the Time  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 07:19 PM (#3237273)
PBR is a good sports beer because it's cheap and not at all heavy. My adult kickball team prefers PBR or Coors Light for our in-game drinking.
   100. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: June 29, 2009 at 08:42 PM (#3237376)
Shooty, where'd you live in Mississippi?

Oxford. Great, great town.
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