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My guess is either Todd Zeile, or Carl Pavano. No, wait...Chad Cordero. Or Brendan Harris, who has apparently played for 6 major-league teams already.
But I guess Mariners management is not about to be taken for fools by the Yankees (they're stupid, but proud).
I'd go with Rauch. He only pitches like 50-80 innings a year, but if he carves out a niche, he could be one of those relievers that stays around until he's in his late 30's.
This management is just plain dumb. There's no way around it. Will they turn a profit this year? It's probably conceivable.
My guesses would be:
1. Cordero
2. Vlad
3. Maicer Izturis
I expect the majors be Expo-less by 2015 or so.
They play him all year despite him being terrible and then DFA him after he'd hit .349 / .364 / .488 in his last 45 PA.
Now we'll never know who would have won the Book Blog poll. Damn.
That's a world I don't want to live in.
Ce sont les Expos who seem a good bet to be sticking around for the next few years. My money would be on Rauch or Izturis in about 8 years.
Man I miss this team.
Oh, and Repoz?Trust me, I think I speak for Lookout Landing when I say "no, thank YOU."
About damn time, too.
Javier Vazquez
Pedro Martinez
Moises Alou
Brian Schneider
Michael Barrett
Fernando Tatis (!)
Geoff Blum
Orlando Cabrera
Endy Chavez
Juan Rivera
Mark Grudzielanek
Randy Johnson
Yes, quite a few of those guys (Pedro, Randy, Moises, etc.) are on their way out, but we still have a way to go until we've seen the last of the Expos' old guard. That's right: THEY LOST THAT MUCH TALENT OVER THE YEARS. 2015 sounds about right to me.
Brandon Phillips isn't worth a mention?
Forgot the last one. Him too.
Matt Stairs!
Dustin Hermanson
Guillermo Mota
Raul Chavez, currently with the Pirates
Matt Skrmetta
Talmadge Nunnari
Nelson Santovenia
Archi Cianfrocco
Nikco Riesgo
Dale Mohorcic
Chris Nabholz
Chad Bentz
Bruce Chen
And, um, is Carl Pavano's career over now, or what?
Peter Bergeron
Matt Cepicky
Lee Stevens
Brad Fullmer
He went yard again tonight.... twice.
...a quick check of Baseball Reference leaves me stunned, but pleased.
Terry Francona.
http://www.thediamondangle.com/archive/jan03/survivors.html
To who?
FOR WHAT?
Without looking at the link, I'll guess Toby Harrah.
A "Reversi" question: Who was the first National to be active? Without looking it up, I'd guess Lenny Harris.
Mike Stanton maybe?
Or the aforementioned Joey Eischen.
Mike Stanton maybe?
Or the aforementioned Joey Eischen.
Silly me, Harris never played for the Nats. Mike Stanton debuted in 1989, Eischen in 1994.
And the real old-time stuff if you're in a goofy mood. I can make guesses for all the teams that folded in 1899 - in order of confidence:
Louisville - Tommy Leach, beat Honus by coming back in 1918.
Baltimore - Hughie Jennings, although from cheezy stunt appearences as a manager. (By that standard Satchel Paige covers a lot of Negro League teams, FWIW.)
Washington - Roger Bresnahan, he had a brief tryout as a pitcher in 1897.
Cleveland - Cy Young? I kind of doubt it, but I don't know of anyone else.
And of course, the Expo who will last longest in professional sports is Youppi!
And while I have no doubt the author intended well, the article seems to lack 'officiality', if you know what I mean.
Here's some more:
Cleveland Spiders - Bobby Wallace
Baltimore Orioles (1901) - Roger Bresnahan
Milwaukee Brewers (1901) - Davy Jones
Washington Senators (orig) - Jim Kaat
Milwaukee Braves - Phil Niekro
Washington Senators (exp) - Toby Harrah
Mr. Nieporont:
I'll admit to the world I'm a youngster who only started paying attention to baseball within the past year. While I know that puts me low on the totem pole here, I hope it will be considered a good thing that the world of intelligent baseball fandom has been recruiting new members.
So no, that wasn't a joke.
When Johnson came up, he was something the likes of which we had never seen before. I don't know if any player had been bigger than 6'8" and here was this 6'10" or 11" bean pole who threw really, really hard and had no idea where the ball was going. He put 10 times the fear into batters than Jim Rice put into pitchers*.
* As alleged by the Jim Rice HOF Booster club, anyway.
EDIT: link
I would like to declare a moratorium on making me feel old...
Cripes... I still have lingering remnants of a memory of this 9 foot tall freak of nature striking out something like 15 Cubs as a 'Spo in a late 80s game before he was traded. He looked lanky enough to just place the ball in the catcher's mitt (still does).
Bonus points for anyone that name the player the Expos received for the Johnson-centered package without peaking.
Langston?
Mark Langston, of course! Back in the good days, when the 'spos traded prospects for veteran goodness to help them down the stretch.
Bingo. We've come full circle -- the Mariners have returned to their 80s heyday of moribundity.
BTW - this is the game I was thinking of... and it was only 11 Ks.
In the Cubs' defense -- their 3-4-5 hitters that day were Mitch Webster, Darin Jackson, and the immortal Dave Meier. I'm fairly sure Livan Hernandez might strike out 2 or 3 guys against that lineup.
I'll forgo the answer, as I've been toying around in bbref thus rendering my guesses ineligible -- but I will say that I knew the more famous/less obscure of the two players that went with him. I doubt I'd have guessed the other.
Yes, stop making me feel old. My ankles do that work for you, so it's a waste of your time.
If RJ were a muppet, he'd be animal.
Was it Don Larsen who pitched 3 games for the Cubs in 1967? The last Browns team also had Bob Turley and Roy Sievers.
The next to last Browns team had Hornsby as manager.
Wanna feel old I remember Ralph Kiner playing for the Cubs but have no idea who was.
Can't find much on the internets now, just a reference to it from BaseballLibrary. I swear I first read about it in SI back when it was worthwhile pre-intertubes, but I can't find anything in the SI archive. From what I remember, he had incredible weakness in his shoulder and absolutely nothing was working for him, so he started pitching underwater in full scuba attire in an attempt to build up his strength. He never pitched again.
Looking at his stats, Holman wasn't as good as I remember him. Probably because I was playing a lot of Major League Manager, a fairly rudimentary text simulator for the 1989 season, and Holman (along with Scotty Bankhead) ruled the world. Interesting how the Holman/Bankhead/Hanson/Johnson quartet worked out - one became one of the best pitchers in MLB history, three blew out their shoulders.
[Checks B-R]
Huh. The Mariners sent the Expos a PTBNL? A former first rounder who had already reached the majors? You learn something new every day...
So Langston -> Johnson, Holman, Harris -> Garcia, Guillen, Halama -> Olivo, Reed, Morse, Santiago -> ? Looks like the second law of thermodynamics at work...
I always knew that Bill Bavasi and entropy were linked somehow.
Wait, that sounds wrong.
I'd love to see a Carlos Gomez analysis of this
As long as there's still life left in the wrist...
bold indicates original players traded (or PTBNL)
^ Indicates second level trade
^ ^ Indicates third level trade
^ ^ ^ Indicates fourth level trade
* indicates still playing for that team and may add to totals
(minors) indicates player never made it to the majors
(#) indicates total IP or PA for the team he was traded to
(name) indicates for which player he was traded as a package/straight up
<u>Seattle:</u>
Brian Holman (544.7 IP)
Gene Harris (94 IP)
^ Will Taylor (minors) (Gene Harris)
Randy Johnson (1838.7 IP)
^ John Halama (557 IP) (Randy Johnson)
^ Freddy Garcia (1096.3 IP) (Randy Johnson)
^ ^ Jeremy Reed (1033 PA*) (Freddy Garcia)
^ ^ Mike Morse (337 PA*) (Freddy Garcia)
^ ^ Miguel Olivo (330 PA) (Freddy Garcia)
^ ^ ^ Miguel Ojeda (37 PA) (Miguel Olivo)
^ ^ ^ Nathanael Mateo (minors) (Miguel Olivo)
^ Carlos Guillen (1896 PA) (Randy Johnson)
^ ^ Ramon Santiago (58 PA) (Carlos Guillen)
^ ^ Juan Gonzalez (minors) (Carlos Guillen)
<u>Montreal:</u>
Mark Langston (176.7 IP)
Mike Campbell (0 IP)
^ Rob Fletcher (minors) (Mike Campbell)
NOTE: Ben Davis was included in the trade with Freddy Garcia to the White Sox.
Otherwise, this would be a complete list of the original trade and the chain reactions.
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