Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Matt Herges, Glenallen Hill release statements apologizing for past PED use

There are men here that don’t ever worship
There are men here who scoff at the ones who pray
But I’ve got down on my knees in that purplestone chapel

Relief pitcher Matt Herges and coach (and former player) Glenallen Hill, both mentioned in the Mitchell Report, each apologized and asked for forgiveness. Herges said he didn’t use performance-enhancing substances while with the Rockies; Hill said he used them for a short time “late in my playing career.”

...Said Herges: “Several years ago I made a poor decision rather than trusting in the abilities the Lord has blessed me with. With great insecurity I chose to cross the line and briefly use performance enhancing substances. I have no excuse for my actions.”

Said Hill: “Late in my playing career, I made mistakes and poor decisions in my personal and professional life. I, and I alone am accountable for them. Simply put, I was not as candid as I should have been regarding my use of performance enhancing substances late in my playing career. My brief use of performance enhancing substances embarrassed me, both personally and professionally, and it was something that I did not want to discuss with anyone.

“After much thought and reflection, I felt that I owed it to God, my family and the Rockies’ organization to be completely forthcoming and truthful. I would like to extend my deepest apologies to the Rockies organization, to my family and friends, and to baseball fans across the country.”

Repoz Posted: February 13, 2008 at 02:53 PM | 43 comment(s)
  Related News: GeneralHistoryColoradoSteroids

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

Page 1 of 1 pages
   1. The Piehole of David Wells Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:14 PM (#2690375)
Now, was that so hard? [Hint, hint, Clemens.]
   2. E., Hinske Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:18 PM (#2690378)
If I was a baseball player who wanted to admit something, today would definitely be the day that I did it.
   3. Harold Reynolds: An Erotic Life (AG#1F) Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:22 PM (#2690384)
Say it ain't so Glenallen, say it ain't so.
   4. David Nieporent Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:23 PM (#2690387)
If I was a baseball player who wanted to admit something, today would definitely be the day that I did it.
If you were Glenallen Hill, nobody would care what you admitted whenever you admitted it. You could admit to being a Nazi war criminal and people would yawn.
   5. flournoy Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:29 PM (#2690393)
Is it true that Glenallen Hill once had a nightmare about spiders, woke up in a frenzy, broke some glass, and injured himself?
   6. The Joe Mauer Power Hour (kj) Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:32 PM (#2690401)
Is it true that Glenallen Hill once had a nightmare about spiders, woke up in a frenzy, broke some glass, and injured himself?


I believe that is true, except the waking up. I was under the impression that the entire episode happened while he remained asleep.
   7. David Nieporent Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:33 PM (#2690403)
Is it true that Glenallen Hill once had a nightmare about spiders, woke up in a frenzy, broke some glass, and injured himself?
Yes. (Supposedly. Lots of the humorous injury stories turn out to be cover stories for more mundane injuries sustained when players were doing what they weren't supposed to be doing. Like Jeff Kent. )
   8. TDF, situational idiot Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:38 PM (#2690406)
Matt Herges, Glenallen Hill release statements apologizing for past PED use


"I'm sorry I didn't take something that might actually make me a good ballplayer."
   9. flournoy Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:41 PM (#2690409)
I don't know about that. I think you have it backwards. It seems more like players make up mundane stories to cover up for the more humorous injures. Maybe it just depends on your definition of humorous.

I know that if I hurt myself, a nightmare about spiders is the last story I'd fabricate, so I'm inclined to believe Hill.
   10. David Nieporent Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:43 PM (#2690412)
I know that if I hurt myself, a nightmare about spiders is the last story I'd fabricate, so I'm inclined to believe Hill.
If you put your hand through glass and got yourself on the DL, you can invent a crazy story about a spider dream or you can say that you were drunk and punched a window. Which do you think would less endear you to your team?
   11. Justin Zeth Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:45 PM (#2690413)
At least Wally Joyner can produce medical records to verify his spider-delivered injury.
   12. flournoy Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:52 PM (#2690422)
If you put your hand through glass and got yourself on the DL, you can invent a crazy story about a spider dream or you can say that you were drunk and punched a window. Which do you think would less endear you to your team?


Or you could be Joe Beimel and say that you cut your hand on a broken glass in your hotel bathroom, when multiple people saw you get in that bar fight last night...
   13. Belfry Bob Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:55 PM (#2690425)
...trusting in the abilities the Lord has blessed me with.


I felt that I owed it to God


If God hadn't wanted you boys to use steroids, he wouldn't have replaced Victor Conte with Francis Prestia in the Tower of Power.

He's Everywhere, you know.

So straighten up, all you evildoers out there. And stop wasting your company's time hanging out on the Internet or one day you'll p
   14. Belfry Bob Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:58 PM (#2690431)
'With great insincerity I chose to cross the line and briefly use performance enhancing substances...'

There, that's better.
   15. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: February 13, 2008 at 04:59 PM (#2690433)
Its like that ball on the rooftop never happened. sigh.
   16. shoewizard Posted: February 13, 2008 at 05:07 PM (#2690442)
By using the phrase "Late in my career" not once but twice, and then also using the phrase "briefly", Hill's statement is STILL an attempt at mitigation. Not judging him....but even when these guys do the right thing, there is always some qualification and justification thrown in to try to mitigate the admission.
   17. The Good Face Posted: February 13, 2008 at 05:24 PM (#2690462)
By using the phrase "Late in my career" not once but twice, and then also using the phrase "briefly", Hill's statement is STILL an attempt at mitigation. Not judging him....but even when these guys do the right thing, there is always some qualification and justification thrown in to try to mitigate the admission.


Pride. Notice that every player who has admitted PED use other than Canseco and Caminiti has always qualified their use with some combination of 1. Late in their career, 2. Recovering from an injury, or 3. Only used once or twice. Some of them are probably telling the truth. But this is starting to look like a pattern. Nobody wants to just come out and say they've been using since high school because it calls their entire career into question. Even guys who have no shot at making the HOF don't want to acknowledge that they may never have even had a Major League career without PEDs.
   18. Guapo Posted: February 13, 2008 at 05:27 PM (#2690465)
   19. retro-shiite Posted: February 13, 2008 at 05:27 PM (#2690466)
Its like that ball on the rooftop never happened. sigh.

Damn. Beat me to it.
   20. Exploring Leftist Conservatism since 2008 (ark..) Posted: February 13, 2008 at 05:28 PM (#2690467)
“After much thought and reflection, I felt that I owed it to God, my family and the Rockies’ organization to be completely forthcoming and truthful. I would like to extend my deepest apologies to the Rockies organization, to my family and friends, and to baseball fans across the country.”


This is priceless. Any moment now a second mea culpa will issue from Hill, wherein he says that he's giving his ill-gotten salary from his PED days to the guys who just missed making the club.

I'm not holding my breath.
   21. Joe Bivens, Ditch Digger Posted: February 13, 2008 at 05:34 PM (#2690475)
"It's gotta be the shoes!"

Uh, no.
   22. Bicycle RepairMan Posted: February 13, 2008 at 05:40 PM (#2690482)
"It's gotta be the shoes!"

Uh, no.


So thats what Jordan meant
   23. aleskel Posted: February 13, 2008 at 05:43 PM (#2690486)
If you were Glenallen Hill, nobody would care what you admitted whenever you admitted it. You could admit to being a Nazi war criminal and people would yawn

I'm so sick of people like Glenallen Hill and Albert Belle and Chris Truby engaging in Nazi war atrocities.
   24. Randy Jones Posted: February 13, 2008 at 05:48 PM (#2690490)
I'm so sick of people like Glenallen Hill and Albert Belle and Chris Truby engaging in Nazi war atrocities.

but you're ok with Steve Garvey doing it?
   25. Justin Zeth Posted: February 13, 2008 at 05:49 PM (#2690492)
"Nobody wants to just come out and say they've been using since high school because it calls their entire career into question."

I'm still waiting, hoping, for the guy--the ONE guy!!--that will come right out and admit to the world that he injected every designer steroid he can get his hands on straight into his veins right from age 19 forward, and just for the sake of being honest, not for the sake of selling a book and getting your name on TV. Will it ever happen?
   26. retro-shiite Posted: February 13, 2008 at 06:26 PM (#2690522)
but you're ok with Steve Garvey doing it?

It's not about being OK with it. It's about Nazi war atrocities being an essential part of what Steve Garvey is. Steve Garvey, by definition, is one who commits Nazi war atrocities. And molests children.
   27. mopar Posted: February 13, 2008 at 06:55 PM (#2690543)
Paxton Crawford can break hotel glass with his gaze
   28. Al Kaline Trio Posted: February 13, 2008 at 07:21 PM (#2690554)
I'm still waiting, hoping, for the guy--the ONE guy!!--that will come right out and admit to the world that he injected every designer steroid he can get his hands on straight into his veins right from age 19 forward, and just for the sake of being honest, not for the sake of selling a book and getting your name on TV. Will it ever happen?


Canseco basically did this and said he wouldn't have played in the MLB and now everybody thinks he pee's pants.
   29. galaxieboi Posted: February 13, 2008 at 07:24 PM (#2690557)
Paxton Crawford can break hotel glass with his gaze


Whatever. Glass was terrified of Rice. Spiders too. As a matter of fact, I'm sure Mr. Hill was having a horrible nightmare about Jim Rice. Rice is like Cthulu. You don't have to even pitch against him. He scares the #### out of you in your sleep.
   30. standuptriple Posted: February 13, 2008 at 07:48 PM (#2690567)
I wonder what Caminiti would say if he were alive today? He always struck me as more credible than Canseco ever could dream to be.
   31. kevin Posted: February 13, 2008 at 08:05 PM (#2690571)
I'm still waiting, hoping, for the guy--the ONE guy!!--that will come right out and admit to the world that he injected every designer steroid he can get his hands on straight into his veins right from age 19 forward, and just for the sake of being honest, not for the sake of selling a book and getting your name on TV. Will it ever happen?


Canseco did that. Sure, he was trying to sell a book afterward. But he bragged about steroids before the book and still brags about doing steroids.
   32. Srul Itza Posted: February 13, 2008 at 09:53 PM (#2690623)
I wonder what Caminiti would say if he were alive today?

HELP!!! SOMEBODY GET ME THE HELL OUT OF THIS BOX!!
   33. Exploring Leftist Conservatism since 2008 (ark..) Posted: February 13, 2008 at 11:49 PM (#2690711)
I wonder what Caminiti would say if he were alive today?

HELP!!! SOMEBODY GET ME THE HELL OUT OF THIS BOX!!


Please: don't ever do this again.
   34. Charter Member of the Jesus Melendez Fanclub Posted: February 14, 2008 at 12:14 AM (#2690732)
Caminiti was cremated.
   35. Charter Member of the Jesus Melendez Fanclub Posted: February 14, 2008 at 12:14 AM (#2690733)
Has anyone ever snorted ashes?
   36. Charter Member of the Jesus Melendez Fanclub Posted: February 14, 2008 at 12:14 AM (#2690734)
I mean, anyone reading this
   37. thetailor Posted: February 14, 2008 at 03:22 AM (#2690823)
I wonder what Caminiti would say if he were alive today?

HELP!!! SOMEBODY GET ME THE HELL OUT OF THIS BOX!!


That's got to be one of the funniest things I have ever read on this site. Holy crap.
   38. villainx Posted: February 14, 2008 at 04:14 AM (#2690831)
Caminiti was cremated.


In Twilight Samurai, directed by Yôji Yamada, there is a terrific bit toward the end when the nominal villain, munches on the cremated remains of a family member. Crunchy. and well worth renting. Yamada is experiencing a late career rebirth as he has been making great movies, one after another, of late after turning out mainstream fare/junk for the most part earlier on.
   39. The Bones McCoy of THT ... of DOOM! Posted: February 14, 2008 at 08:53 AM (#2690852)
If God hadn't wanted you boys to use steroids, he wouldn't have replaced Victor Conte with Francis Prestia in the Tower of Power.

He's Everywhere, you know.

So straighten up, all you evildoers out there. And stop wasting your company's time hanging out on the Internet or one day you'll p


I take it that's a warning?

RDF.

Best Regards

John
   40. Tropical Storm Davis, aka Quilvio "Ebola" Veras Posted: February 14, 2008 at 09:08 AM (#2690859)
His .074 career postseason batting average is forever tainted.
   41. omar sheets Posted: February 14, 2008 at 11:29 AM (#2690954)
Has anyone ever snorted ashes?


I have. It made me sneeze and I didn't get anything from it. Could be because my grandma lived a pretty clean life though.
   42. gef the talking mongoose Posted: February 14, 2008 at 11:34 AM (#2690960)
Rice is like Cthulu.


It is true that Lovecraft, as a staunch New Englander, almost certainly would've been a Red Sox fan.

In his house at Fenway dead Jim Rice lies dreaming.
   43. bunyon Posted: February 14, 2008 at 11:42 AM (#2690964)
Lots of the humorous injury stories turn out to be cover stories for more mundane injuries sustained when players were doing what they weren't supposed to be doing. Like Jeff Kent.

Have any players been injured doing Jeff Kent?
Page 1 of 1 pages

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

<< Back to main

Support BBTF

donate

My Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Vivid Seats is a sports ticket broker, concert ticket broker and theater ticket broker offering the best baseball tickets like Yankees tickets, Cubs tickets, and Red Sox tickets, as well as Police reunion tour tickets and Jersey Boys tickets.

We have baseball tickets, the NFL schedule, college football tickets and Cowboys tickets. We have NBA tickets like Celtics tickets and Lakers tickets. Plus, buy Giants tickets, Patriots tickets and Colts tickets. Also check out our MLB baseball schedule

Buy Cheap MLB Tickets

Concerts Theatre NFL Angels Dodgers MLB Celtics Theater NBA Tickets Venues NHL Lakers Tickets NFL Yankees NHL Phillies NBA Wicked Marlins MLB Concerts Cubs Mets Red Sox Wicked WWE Red Sox Mets Yankees Dodgers

Page rendered in 0.5434 seconds
81 querie(s) executed