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Monday, August 17, 2009

Mets Lifers: Matt Cain is A Really Good Pitching Punk

And his 77 Sulphate Strip book was pretty damn goo...oops, bollocks that one.

Matt Cain is good. Correction, Matt Cain is very good. He may very well win the Cy Young Award this year.

But ultimately he’s a Class A punk.

The hat tip during Saturday’s game sealed the deal for me. I believe Cain didn’t throw at Wright on purpose or at least he wasn’t trying to hit him in the head. He was visibly upset about having done that, but then he had to go and tip his hat to the irate Mets fans who were obviously, and deservedly, angered at Cain for almost killing the face of the franchise while sending him to the hospital.

...But here’s the thing, Cain isn’t saying that’s why he tipped his cap. In fact he’s changing his story. On WFAN’s Joe & Evan in the Mid-day, Evan Roberts noted that Cain when asked about tipping his cap after the game originally said something to the effect that “hey, this is New York” alluding to the fact that fans often prey on players and players in turn play to the crowd.

But Roberts went on to say when Can was asked again later about whether or not he tipped his cap on purpose Cain said, “I was just adjusting my cap” and that he wasn’t tipping his cap to the crowd.

Now if he was tipping his cap to the Giants fans behind the dugout, then fine, but why not say so? Why change your story? Just come out and say you’re a punk and it was probably not the right thing to do. End of story.

Repoz Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:43 PM | 22 comment(s)
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   1. Craig Calcaterra  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:05 PM (#3295213)
I spend a huge portion of my online life dissecting insignificant bullsh*t, but man, even this is too much (or too little?) for me.
   2. The District Attorney  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:08 PM (#3295216)
Why would Cain be distraught about hitting Wright, but then rub it in the fans' faces that he hit him? That doesn't make any sense.
   3. Shooty Did Not Kill McGurk  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:16 PM (#3295226)
I spend a huge portion of my online life dissecting insignificant bullsh*t, but man, even this is too much (or too little?) for me.

My reaction as well. This kind of navel gazing is why everyone outside of New York hates New York.
   4. radioman  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:21 PM (#3295237)
Repoz has been posting some real gems the last couple of days, but this might take the prize.
   5. HGM  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:28 PM (#3295254)
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that there was a group of Giants minority owners sitting behind the dugout and that's who he tipped his cap to
   6. JPWF13  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:31 PM (#3295262)
Why would Cain be distraught about hitting Wright, but then rub it in the fans' faces that he hit him? That doesn't make any sense.


I've seen players tip their caps to fans who were booing them, it's meant to be a sarcastic gesture.

His immediate reaction after hitting Wright was, "oh crap what did I do".

The fans were booing him for the most part because he hit Wright, but I'm not sure his hat tip had anything to do with Wright- I don't think Cain was thinking about having hit Wright when he tipped his cap... (or at least I hope not)
   7. The District Attorney  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:37 PM (#3295277)
I've seen players tip their caps to fans who were booing them, it's meant to be a sarcastic gesture.
No, I know, but if he were a-hole enough about the affair to do that, then he wouldn't have cared when he hit the guy. Putting the two body language readings together creates a contradiction, but that's what this "writer" is claiming occurred.
   8. Steve Treder  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:43 PM (#3295284)
Just come out and say you’re a punk and it was probably not the right thing to do. End of story.


Yep, we should all be taking instruction on courtesy and class from someone who writes this.
   9. Portia Stanke  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:51 PM (#3295293)
No, I know, but if he were a-hole enough about the affair to do that, then he wouldn't have cared when he hit the guy.


Being upset about hitting someone in the head and mocking a stadium filled with sullen, booing fans are completely different things.

There's no contradiction in Cain's actions.
   10. flournoy  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:56 PM (#3295303)
Yeah. I'd never hit anyone in the head on purpose, but I would not hesitate to mock a stadium full of Mets fans.
   11. Benji  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:56 PM (#3295304)
Cohen was doing his usual rant about this, how terrible it was, blah blah blah, but geez, he didn't throw at him, so why were the fans booing? They were being the jerks, IMO.
   12. SantoFan  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 02:58 PM (#3295309)
Andrew Baggarly, on the hat tip:

Cain tipped his cap as he came off the mound, which I’m sure the Mets fans didn’t appreciate. What they couldn’t have known is that the small contingent above the Giants dugout that stood and cheered him weren’t just any group of out-of-town Giants fans. They were the minority owners of the club, along with their families. Bill Neukom, Larry Baer and many of the investors accompanied the team to New York for the series. After Friday night’s loss, they were glad to have something to cheer — finally.

I’d tip my cap to the people who sign my checks, too.
   13. Cris E  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 03:01 PM (#3295313)
Most of the time I hear someone called a punk I can check out the speaker and feel an immediate urge to double-check the facts. It's a word that is used by a few coherent, thoughtful writers and a lot of, um, non-contemplatives. In this case I'm both tempted to double-check and fearful of what else might be in TFA. Pass.
   14. The District Attorney  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 03:08 PM (#3295325)
Being upset about hitting someone in the head and mocking a stadium filled with sullen, booing fans are completely different things.
So under this theory, the alleged hat tip basically amounted to "screw you guys, I didn't mean to hit him"?

I guess it could be. Seems unlikely, though. I guess the lesson is that it's silly to speculate about body language and such...
   15. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 03:25 PM (#3295346)
So under this theory, the alleged hat tip basically amounted to "screw you guys, I didn't mean to hit him"?

It meant "I didn't mean to hit him, but I also don't need a bunch of ####### new york pieces of #### to boo me for it".
   16. plim  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 04:25 PM (#3295460)
am i the only one that thinks that matt cain's favorite movie growing up was Mr. Baseball?
   17. zenbitz  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 05:23 PM (#3295575)
Matt Cain is an admitted fan of chick flicks.
   18. billyshears  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 05:36 PM (#3295595)
On another note, are the Mets going to sign Stephen Matz?
   19. Zooooooook (jonathan)  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 05:56 PM (#3295629)
I used to feel sorta bad for Mets fans, but they seem awfully self-important these days. Between nonsense like this and the way, way, waaaaay over the top "woe is us" attitude (like, yeah, shitty season, past couple years have had some awful moments, but you're still well behind the front of the "God rooting for this franchise is just ####" line), they're slowly morphing into a startlingly annoying fan base.
   20. Bhaakon  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 07:58 PM (#3295803)
So under this theory, the alleged hat tip basically amounted to "screw you guys, I didn't mean to hit him"?

I guess it could be. Seems unlikely, though. I guess the lesson is that it's silly to speculate about body language and such...


I guess that it amounts to "Screw you guys, full stop." Getting booed non-stop for several innings tends to build up some resentment in the boo-ee, regardless of the boo-er's motivation. He may have picked the habit up from Bonds, who relished the boos of opposing fans. If Cain were still thinking about Wright at that point, he probably wouldn't have pitched that well after the obvious mistake.
   21. SteveM.  Posted: August 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM (#3295909)
Are Mets fans as sensitive as my tween daughter? Sure sounds like it lately.
   22. Halofan  Posted: August 18, 2009 at 02:42 AM (#3296210)
But did he go down to the Mudd Club and get drunk?
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