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Mindy McCready’s mother recalls moment of truth for Roger Clemens

A few years ago, country singer Mindy McCready brought a special guest to her mother’s North Fort Myers, Fla., home.

It was the first time Gayle Inge had met Roger Clemens face-to-face, although they had talked on the phone numerous times and she knew her daughter had traveled to Las Vegas and other cities with the world-famous pitcher.

The man on McCready’s arm was as broad as a barrel and played the part of a perfect gentleman to Inge and her second husband. That day, he signed a softball for Inge, since she had no baseballs in the house.

In past years, he’d called Inge’s home looking for her daughter. He’d flown Inge’s sons on his private plane and bought a sleek set of golf clubs for Tim McCready, their father and Inge’s first husband, just like the ones Clemens used. He’d even asked Tim McCready for permission to have a relationship with his daughter.

All was fine until the visitor mentioned something that caught Inge off guard.

“A conversation about his sons came up,” Inge says.

Then it hit Inge: Roger Clemens, father of four, was still married.

“Of course, I didn’t say anything to him,” Inge says. “I said plenty to Mindy about, ‘Is there a wife?’ I think Mindy was afraid to bring him over here because she was afraid I would say something.”

marko Posted: May 04, 2008 at 02:54 PM | 75 comment(s)
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1. Ray DiPerna Posted: May 04, 2008 at 03:42 PM (#2768528)

Is it just me, or does McCready look 50 instead of 32?

2. Brandon in MO (Fire Trey Hillman) Posted: May 04, 2008 at 03:48 PM (#2768532)

He’d even asked Tim McCready for permission to have a relationship with his daughter.

What a gentleman

3. Rich Posted: May 04, 2008 at 04:35 PM (#2768610)

Having their daughter go out with Clemens was apparently a cottage industry for some families.

4. Esoteric can feel Strasburg slowly slipping away Posted: May 04, 2008 at 04:52 PM (#2768647)

I can't read about all this sleaze without feeling a little sick.

5. Rough Carrigan Posted: May 04, 2008 at 05:06 PM (#2768673)

"Sir, with your permission, I'd like to consider your daughter my official mistress."
"Really?"
"Well, actually, I got whores on call all across this great big land of ours but I want your daughter to be first among 'em."

6. Rough Carrigan Posted: May 04, 2008 at 05:09 PM (#2768677)

"He was the most incredibly honest person I've ever met."

Except for, you know, lying outrageously and constantly to the person to whom he was married. But except for that . .

7. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: May 04, 2008 at 05:17 PM (#2768686)

He should have had his children taken away.

8. Danny Posted: May 04, 2008 at 05:21 PM (#2768695)

Except for, you know, lying outrageously and constantly to the person to whom he was married. But except for that . .

To be fair, we don't really know whether they had the "home/road platoon" type of agreement that many celebrities seem to have with their significant others.

9. bunyon Posted: May 04, 2008 at 05:24 PM (#2768697)

Having their daughter go out with Clemens was apparently a cottage industry for some families.

And thus it has been throughout history. The details change, but the behavior and utility of the super rich hasn't really changed all that much.

10. dudevonavich Posted: May 04, 2008 at 07:18 PM (#2768808)

Chew on this those who would excuse or condone or minimize Roger Dodger's behavior. They started when she was 15 years old, that is the same age Miley Cyrus is. America expressed it's outrage over questionable photo's. The man should be on trial like R. Kelley.
Do you think he'll still get in the hall?

Hey Clemens get your eyes off my daughter!!!

11. Joe Bivens, Proud Union Member Posted: May 04, 2008 at 07:22 PM (#2768812)

To be fair, we don't really know whether they had the "home/road platoon" type of agreement that many celebrities seem to have with their significant others.

There's a good chance we're going to find out.

12. TWO!-OH!-OH!-OH! CLAP!-CLAP!-CLAP!CLAP!CLAP! Posted: May 04, 2008 at 07:23 PM (#2768814)

He should have had his children taken away.

Shouldn't that be "khildren"?

13. pkb33 Posted: May 04, 2008 at 07:41 PM (#2768827)

To be fair, we don't really know whether they had the "home/road platoon" type of agreement that many celebrities seem to have with their significant others.

I'm willing to bet they didn't have an arrangement which involved him with a 15 year old woman on the road. You really think that's the case?

14. Lujack Posted: May 04, 2008 at 07:58 PM (#2768832)

What does Brandon think about all this?

15. David Nieporent (now, with child) Posted: May 04, 2008 at 08:26 PM (#2768842)

Chew on this those who would excuse or condone or minimize Roger Dodger's behavior. They started when she was 15 years old, that is the same age Miley Cyrus is. America expressed it's outrage over questionable photo's. The man should be on trial like R. Kelley.

Once more: the only "news" outlet to report this story said that they didn't do anything "intimate" until sometime after she turned 18.

16. AJMacaroni Posted: May 04, 2008 at 09:03 PM (#2768877)

The man should be on trial like R. Kelley.

If a man can't pee on his fans, I don't want to be in show business.

17. Crispix Attacks Posted: May 04, 2008 at 09:11 PM (#2768889)

I'm sick and tired of all these ballplayers like Roger Clemens and Albert Belle going around peeing on Miley Cyrus.

18. Better Schafer than Sorry Posted: May 04, 2008 at 09:35 PM (#2768920)

The man should be on trial like R. Kelley.

Clemens boinked Sheff's wife too?!

19. Steibferno Posted: May 04, 2008 at 10:02 PM (#2768949)

Once more: the only "news" outlet to report this story said that they didn't do anything "intimate" until sometime after she turned 18.

Funny, because McNamee was never convicted of rape, yet you have no problem calling him a rapist. Why the different standard Davey?

20. rLr Shouldn't Have Drunk The Hot Mountain Dew Posted: May 04, 2008 at 10:08 PM (#2768957)

Funny, because McNamee was never convicted of rape, yet you have no problem calling him a rapist. Why the different standard Davey?

McNamee raped his childhood.

21. AJMacaroni Posted: May 04, 2008 at 10:15 PM (#2768962)

Funny, because McNamee was never convicted of rape, yet you have no problem calling him a rapist.

Well, there were (at least) two eye witnesses and a drug test.

22. konaforever Posted: May 04, 2008 at 10:16 PM (#2768963)

Therefore, Nieporent never met a fact he didn't dislike, if it interfered with his POV. And even most of the ones that didn't interfere, on the grounds that the vast majority of their brethren do interfere.

Also known as cognitive dissonance.

23. The District Attorney Posted: May 04, 2008 at 10:16 PM (#2768965)

What does Brandon think about all this?

Arroyo?

24. Crispix Attacks Posted: May 04, 2008 at 10:18 PM (#2768966)

No, Brandon Kiheimahanaomauiakeo Sardinha.

25. Jeff K. Posted: May 04, 2008 at 10:28 PM (#2768974)

"Well, actually, I got whores on call all across this great big land of ours but I want your daughter to be first among 'em."

Every other city we go
every other video
no matter where I go
I see the same hos

26. David Nieporent (now, with child) Posted: May 05, 2008 at 12:37 AM (#2769029)

Once more: the only "news" outlet to report this story said that they didn't do anything "intimate" until sometime after she turned 18.

Funny, because McNamee was never convicted of rape, yet you have no problem calling him a rapist. Why the different standard Davey?

Different standard between what and what? In one case, there's no accusation; in one case, there is. Why do you think a "different standard" would be required to come to different conclusions, given different facts?

Therefore, Nieporent never met a fact he didn't dislike, if it interfered with his POV. And even most of the ones that didn't interfere, on the grounds that the vast majority of their brethren do interfere.

You mean, kind of like how you embarrassed yourself proving you didn't understand science in the thread abou religion and adultery, discarding facts that you didn't like?

and the trauma of failing IPS in the ninth grade.

Okay, I'll bite; you've intrigued me. What's IPS? Sounds like something the slow Salem State kids take.

27. Howie Menckel Posted: May 05, 2008 at 12:40 AM (#2769030)

David,

At this point in the game, what is your sense of Clemens' general credibility?

28. PepTech Posted: May 05, 2008 at 01:31 AM (#2769037)

He should have had his children taken away.

Shouldn't that be "khildren"?

See, I went the other way with that. Let's get their names legally changed to Coby, Cory, etc.

Or we could call them all George.

29. Miguel Posted: May 05, 2008 at 01:58 AM (#2769049)

Brandon Inge is Mindy McCready's mother? I think I smell a story cookin'.

30. rLr Shouldn't Have Drunk The Hot Mountain Dew Posted: May 05, 2008 at 02:03 AM (#2769051)

Brandon Inge is Mindy McCready's mother? I think I smell a story cookin'.

Just don't look for Lynn Henning to break it. Inge won't return his calls.

31. Miguel Posted: May 05, 2008 at 03:22 AM (#2769062)

What's IPS?

Somewhat apropos of both Klemens and Inge, I saw Brandon Backe at the House of Pies over off of 610 one time with a shirt that had an imposing government-style IPS logo, captioned "Inquisitorial Panty Squad." Maybe that's it, who knows?

32. baudib Posted: May 05, 2008 at 04:01 AM (#2769064)

Once more: the only "news" outlet to report this story said that they didn't do anything "intimate" until sometime after she turned 18.

The stories are written in a way that could lead you to draw other conclusions, however.

33. oscar gamble's afro pick Posted: May 05, 2008 at 04:14 AM (#2769065)

At this point in the game, what is your sense of Clemens' general credibility?

I don't know if general credibility really exists....baseball, uniquely, is the game Americans love to moralize about: Clemens may take the sanctity of the mlb record book much more seriously than the sanctity of marriage. After all, he's going out of his way to avoid having his repuation as a historically great pitcher tarnished, but he seems to have had pretty little concern about his rep as a family man.

Of course, it may be that he thought the former rep would shield the latter; and, indeed, there seems to be a disconnect between the way the tabloids describe 20 yrs of fairly blatant carrying-on and the vast respect sportswriters gave the man over that period of time....

34. Jolly Old St. Nick (now, with Screen Name history) Posted: May 05, 2008 at 07:36 AM (#2769071)

I haven't been following this, but did McCready and Margo Adams ever get together to compare chicken recipes? I would think that Adams might have been able to help her quite a bit on this.

35. Hack Wilson Posted: May 05, 2008 at 07:49 AM (#2769073)

Boy the price of daughters has gone up, now its golf clubs.

In "Tobacco Road" it was a bag of turnips.

36. Backlasher Posted: May 05, 2008 at 08:04 AM (#2769076)

What's IPS?

I presume its Introductory Physical Science.

Once more: the only "news" outlet to report this story said that they didn't do anything "intimate" until sometime after she turned 18.

That is because all those steroids caused the little rocket to misfire.

Seriously, I'm not sure it matters too much on the propriety scale. If she was in his hotel room at 15, and they had a continuous relationship, its still disturbing.

In "Tobacco Road" it was a bag of turnips.

With the increase in food prices, I think turnips may cost more than golf clubs.

37. walt williams bobblehead Posted: May 05, 2008 at 08:09 AM (#2769077)

Is the idea of these stories that since he had affairs, then he must have been lying to his wife and been a bad husband and father?

38. Hack Wilson Posted: May 05, 2008 at 08:19 AM (#2769081)

Debbie Clemens has just announced that she is a candidate for President of the United States.

39. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 05, 2008 at 08:37 AM (#2769094)

"See, I went the other way with that. Let's get their names legally changed to Coby, Cory, etc."

I always thought that Bobby Witt's children should all have "BB" at the start of their names.

40. Belfry Bob Posted: May 05, 2008 at 08:45 AM (#2769097)

Then it hit Inge: Roger Clemens, father of four, was still married.

“Of course, I didn’t say anything to him,” Inge says.

Is that the proper etiquette in this situation? What does Miss Manners say about this? I'd like to be certain so if my daughter brings home a married man I don't say something out of line.

41. Howie Menckel Posted: May 05, 2008 at 09:09 AM (#2769109)

"Debbie Clemens has just announced that she is a candidate for President of the United States."

better parallel might be "candidate for 5th slot in the Yankees rotation"....

42. Greg Pope Posted: May 05, 2008 at 09:27 AM (#2769122)

You're lecturing me on what a scientific fact is and you don't even know what IPS means? RDF. That explains all.

According to Wikipedia:

Introductory Physical Science (also IPS) is a high school level science education class offered as a preparatory course to physical science.

I certainly never took a class like that (I've never heard of it before now), and I made it through AP Physics and AP Chemistry by the time I graduated. I got my degree in Materials Science and Engineering, so IPS is clearly not a requirement for knowing "scientific fact".

43. RMc is the President of the United States Posted: May 05, 2008 at 09:41 AM (#2769129)

hit Inge: Roger Clemens

A filthy lie: Clemens has never hit Inge. But Inge has hit Clemens pretty well...

44. Robert Machemer Posted: May 05, 2008 at 09:47 AM (#2769135)

They sure didn't have anything called "IPS" at any school with which I myself ever had a connection; however, I tend to avoid scientific facts and only am familiar with private schools, so my experience may not be representative of too many others' experiences. Feel free to "RDRR" away, as much as seems fitting.

EDITED

45. David Nieporent (now, with child) Posted: May 05, 2008 at 11:02 AM (#2769189)

I certainly never took a class like that (I've never heard of it before now), and I made it through AP Physics and AP Chemistry by the time I graduated. I got my degree in Materials Science and Engineering, so IPS is clearly not a requirement for knowing "scientific fact".

Ditto for me. Well, not the Materials Science part. But AP Physics/Chem/Bio, no "IPS" class. Sounds like something one would take in middle school, not high school.

46. villageidiom Posted: May 05, 2008 at 11:28 AM (#2769208)

Is the idea of these stories that since he had affairs, then he must have been lying to his wife and been a bad husband and father?

The idea, as far as I can tell, is that the man suing McNamee for damaging his reputation had a reputation with a basis in fiction. Clemens had to this point used his reputation as an honorable family man as an example of how he does the "right thing", despite what other ballplayers do, in order to strengthen the notion that he likewise had been doing the "right thing" by not using steroids.

Whether he was a bad husband and/or father is a separate matter. Since there are no allegations of abuse out there, I'm comfortable leaving that to the judgment of Debbie Clemens and the Khildren. (Tip of the hat to #15.)

47. too fat and ugly to play third Posted: May 05, 2008 at 11:31 AM (#2769211)

Many people make it through the Indiana/Purdue System without being good at science.

48. Crispix Attacks Posted: May 05, 2008 at 11:45 AM (#2769220)

I always thought that Bobby Witt's children should all have "BB" at the start of their names.

There's been a movement this year to change Kyle Kendrick's name to "Byle Bendrick". Someone with 65 K's in 153 career innings doesn't deserve the initials KK.

On the other hand, he only has 36 walks in that time, too.

49. Robert Machemer Posted: May 05, 2008 at 11:47 AM (#2769222)

BABIPyle BABIPendrick doesn't exactly roll off the tongue either.

50. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: May 05, 2008 at 11:47 AM (#2769223)

-McNamee's a rapist

-Clemens is a liar and a douche

-I took "Physical Science" in 8th grade

-I feel bad for Clemens in regards to this media coverage in a way that I didn't for McNamee because the actions are wildly divergent, as is the publicity for them

-I don't feel bad for Clemens over the steroids/hgh thing, in which we appear to have pretty good evidence of cheating

51. Crispix Attacks Posted: May 05, 2008 at 11:49 AM (#2769224)

Also, I've never heard of IPS. Perhaps it is a word used in some schools but not others.

Kevin is trying to talk about "science" and I bet he doesn't even know who taught 5th grade science in 1992 at Dallas (PA) Elementary School. Well, let me clue you in, you scientific illiterate, it was Mr. Doerfler.

52. The District Attorney Posted: May 05, 2008 at 11:52 AM (#2769227)

Irritable Poster Syndrome

53. alex perros gives up the ghost Posted: May 05, 2008 at 04:27 PM (#2769603)

Adultery and PED use are both longstanding baseball traditions.

Unless you're Dale Murphy.

54. Klutts! Posted: May 05, 2008 at 04:41 PM (#2769611)

Funny thread...You're all hitting it out of the park.

55. Shredder Posted: May 05, 2008 at 04:43 PM (#2769612)

Also, I've never heard of IPS. Perhaps it is a word used in some schools but not others.

kevin was using the abbreviation that was common when he was serving in the military.

56. Free Joe C and the Pop Culture Portmanteau Posted: May 05, 2008 at 04:55 PM (#2769624)

I'm sick and tired of all these ballplayers like Roger Clemens and Albert Belle going around peeing on Miley Cyrus.

!!

57. baseball chick, now with lousy baseball team Posted: May 05, 2008 at 04:59 PM (#2769627)

Then it hit Inge: Roger Clemens, father of four, was still married.

“Of course, I didn’t say anything to him,” Inge says.

- amusement
- contempt

if inge had been MY daddy, clemens would have been the one who got hit

i can't believe how many people whore out their children. of course inge didn't say nothing - he too busy checking the bling. he's an even bigger douche then roger clemens

like, say, there is no amount of money i would agree to to let my 6 year olds "sleepover" with michael jackson

58. vortex of dissipation Posted: May 05, 2008 at 05:21 PM (#2769643)

Then it hit Inge: Roger Clemens, father of four, was still married.

“Of course, I didn’t say anything to him,” Inge says.

- amusement
- contempt

if inge had been MY daddy, clemens would have been the one who got hit

i can't believe how many people whore out their children. of course inge didn't say nothing - he too busy checking the bling. he's an even bigger douche then roger clemens

like, say, there is no amount of money i would agree to to let my 6 year olds "sleepover" with michael jackson

The quotation is from McCready's mother, not her father.

59. baseball chick, now with lousy baseball team Posted: May 05, 2008 at 06:26 PM (#2769684)

vortex

if inge had been my MOTHER, roger clemens be DEAD on the spot

60. vortex of dissipation Posted: May 05, 2008 at 06:43 PM (#2769691)

if inge had been my MOTHER, roger clemens be DEAD on the spot

Fair enough.

61. Joe Bivens, Proud Union Member Posted: May 05, 2008 at 06:46 PM (#2769693)

bbc, why are you people so violent?

(ducks)

62. villageidiom Posted: May 05, 2008 at 08:02 PM (#2769776)

bbc, why are you people so violent?

Astros fans?

63. Joe Bivens, Proud Union Member Posted: May 05, 2008 at 08:08 PM (#2769788)

Texans, in general.

64. Exploring Leftist Conservatism since 2008 (ark..) Posted: May 05, 2008 at 09:24 PM (#2769951)

if inge had been MY daddy, clemens would have been the one who got hit

I'm with you on this, chick. I'm essentially nonviolent, but two things that tend to get me throwing punches are, 'Hi, I have a gun and I want something from you', and 'Hi, I have a wife, four kids, and I'm sleeping with your daughter'.

65. robinred Posted: May 05, 2008 at 10:02 PM (#2770074)

I'm with you on this, chick. I'm essentially nonviolent, but two things that tend to get me throwing punches are, 'Hi, I have a gun and I want something from you', and 'Hi, I have a wife, four kids, and I'm sleeping with your daughter'.

"Hi. You're not a conservative."

EDIT: "Hi. I'm David Nieporent."

66. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 05, 2008 at 11:00 PM (#2770211)

'Hi, I have a wife, four kids, and I'm sleeping with your daughter'.

How about if he used a kondom?

67. villageidiom Posted: May 05, 2008 at 11:17 PM (#2770249)

How about if he used a kondom?

And they kuddled afterwards?

68. tfbg9 Posted: May 05, 2008 at 11:39 PM (#2770298)

two things that tend to get me throwing punches are, 'Hi, I have a gun and I want something from you

Yeah right.

/rolls eyes

69. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: May 06, 2008 at 12:13 AM (#2770366)

It's the reason he always carries a briefcase wherever he goes. Then, when the inevitable gunman makes his threat, he tosses him the briefcase. The thug will always, ALWAYS drop his gun to the ground in order to catch the briefcase. Then, with his hands full, he's helpless as you pop him one in the snoot. POW! Eat justice, punk!

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