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Monday, December 01, 2008

MLB: Bauman: Familiar trio deserve Hall admission

Da-Da—-DA-DA! We have our first official partial HOF ballot! (As usual send any/all HOF ballot articles in to the home office…)

I have persistently voted for Rice, Dawson and Blyleven, and I will again. This is always, in the end—even with all of the data on either side of any given argument—a subjective judgment. There are essentially at least two tiers of Hall of Famers; those who are no-doubters, first-ballot picks, the greatest of the great, and then there are those players whose overall worth is widely acknowledged, but whose worthiness for this honor can be debated. By definition, by receiving substantial support for many years, but never winning this election, these three players are in that second category.

...This annual vote represents another opportunity for the voters to revisit their choices and renew the attendant debates. The fact that these debates go on is a tribute to the standards for baseball’s Hall of Fame, and the importance of what this process signifies.

Repoz Posted: December 01, 2008 at 06:49 PM | 7 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: December 01, 2008 at 07:13 PM (#3018157)
Jeez, there's no need to be so reasonable about it.
   2. Obama Bomaye Posted: December 01, 2008 at 07:17 PM (#3018160)
Didn't you know no reasonable voter could put Rice and Dawson on his ballot?
   3. The District Attorney Posted: December 01, 2008 at 07:42 PM (#3018174)
Dawson is in the Hall of Merit, so, that would surprise me.
   4. J. Michael Neal Posted: December 01, 2008 at 09:59 PM (#3018280)
Question to the BTF mob. If the choice was between having both Rice and Blyleven in the Hall, or neither, which would you prefer?
   5. Juan V is the mustard of your doom! Posted: December 01, 2008 at 10:02 PM (#3018283)
Both. Then again, I'm a Big Hall guy.
   6. Steve Treder Posted: December 01, 2008 at 10:12 PM (#3018289)
If the choice was between having both Rice and Blyleven in the Hall, or neither, which would you prefer?

I don't know, isn't the motivating factor in HOF debates to advance the case of making the institution unequivocally better, rather than one-step-forward-another-step-back?

What you're asking, I think, is whether Rice is further below the line than Blyleven is above it. Without doing any analysis, my gut says yes, he is.
   7. Hugh Jorgan Posted: December 01, 2008 at 10:16 PM (#3018292)
Question to the BTF mob. If the choice was between having both Rice and Blyleven in the Hall, or neither, which would you prefer

I'd have to go both as Blyleven should be in. I'd have Tim Raines in way before I'd put Rice in. Unfortunately as the 2nd best leadoff guy in the last 40 years he'll always be compared to Ricky...who was just outrageously good. Voters will knock him for that. I see it though as anyone who can be in the same conversation with Henderson was brilliant in their own right.

So there's my weekly Raines rant...sorry.
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