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IIRC, the contract offer was going to buy out his last year of arbitration (2008) and keep him gainfully employed through the end of the 2011 season. He made $6.25M in 2008 and close to $7m last year, but he's going to have to work awfully hard to make up the gap to $29m over the next two years. Never mind the Chase Utley-like contract that Hudson supposedly brought to the table as a comp during negotiations.
The sad thing for Dbacks fans is that had Hudson taken the $29m offer from AZ, the Dbacks wouldn't have spent that money on Eric Byrnes instead (even if Jeff Moorad thinks the world of Eric). O-Dawg should've taken the money and run, like Eric did. The reality is, Hudson thought he was worth a lot more than the market thought he was while Eric knew that no other GM would give him $30m in shiny silver dollars.
I just traded for this ####### in my Scoresheet league. If he does that I will be so pissed off.
But he has four Gold Gloves!
Of course, Boswell ascribes to the line of thinking that Gold Gloves are everything, too.
The word on Hudson as he was coming up in the Toronto system was, and this is as close to a direct quote as I can remember, "There's never been a town he's played in where he couldn't have run for mayor."
That is a hilarious sentence. Let's try it with Willie Mays.
Even if the 78-year-old's range has diminished somewhat, he's still a twelve-time Gold Glover.
The word on Hudson as he was coming up in the Toronto system was, and this is as close to a direct quote as I can remember, "There's never been a town he's played in where he couldn't have run for mayor."
I've been a fan of his for some time since I saw him miked up on TWIB. He seems like a very well liked guy by his teammates. He's a guy that constantly runs his mouth in the infield, but no annoyingly so.
I think the lack of a market for him is a bit mystifying, even if his defense has diminished/was never that great in the first place.
2004 +26
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He's probably around league average by now, and won't be much longer if history with 2b is any guide.
I thought that 2nd basemen were generally underpaid? Perhaps because they have a reputation of losing their skills relatively early.
He's the new Jody Reed.
and because even poor defensive 1bmen can play an average 2B.
On the other hand, CHONE thinks guys like Tug Hulett, Ryan Roberts, and Jeff Baker are at the same level as Hudson. There are 34 second basemen projected at 2+ WAR per 600 PA, including a glut of 13 in the 2.0-2.3 range:
Brandon Phillips
Orlando Hudson
Omar Infante
Tug Hulett
Clint Barmes
Ryan Roberts
Mike Fontenot
Jeff Baker
Chris Getz
Felipe Lopez
Eric Young
Alberto Callaspo
Luis Valbuena
From that point of view, I can see why teams aren't exactly banging on Hudson's door. Then again, he's surely better than Nick Punto, and I have no idea what the Nats' backup plan is.
(Edit: Adam Kennedy? Worse hitter, probably similar fielder, older... according to CHONE, at least, they'd be better off trading for Baker.)
I'd guess Baker is slated for at least 400-500 PA with the Cubs this season -- either as starting 2B or as DeRosa-lite. The Nats would have to give us something pretty worthwhile for him and I doubt they want to do that.
He seemed like one of Vin Scully's favorite players even before he was on the Dodgers.
Heh. Reminds me of a quote I saw in SI the year the Phillies were trying to convert Juan Samuel to CF.
Reporter: "Hey Juan, you look just like Willie Mays out there."
Samuel: "Really? Thanks."
Reporter: "Sure. But keep in mind that Willie's 57 years old now . . . "
I think the lack of a market for him is a bit mystifying, even if his defense has diminished/was never that great in the first place.
Agreed. Loved him on the Jays, and for a while I thought some team (probably the Mets) was going to end up overpaying for a largely BA driven stat line. Very strange he's had to beg for a contract the last couple of seasons...
He's a victim of both the changing economic climate of the game and the spread of new methods of player evaluation throughout MLB front offices. As a player who is has a good all-round skill set but doesn't necessarily excel at any one thing, he's the type of guy GMs are likely to look at as a luxury rather than a necessity when it comes to keeping costs down. I think when GMs look at their team and say, we have to find a few spots on the roster that we can fill with guys making salaries at or near the minimum, second base is one of the first places they look.
For instance, look at the guy likely to be manning second for Arizona this season - converted from infield to outfield halfway through his professional career, with 2B being the one position he didn't play in the minors, cut loose by his org. last season, and taking a pay cut to regain a starting job with a new team. Making 25% what Hudson's reportedly asking for and not likely materially worse on the diamond.
I'm so sure about that. Hudson's pretty well-established at the 100+ OPS+ level, while Johnson has had 1 very good, 1 solid, and 1 terrible year in the last three. Hudson hasn't ever had a year as bad as Johnson's 2008, and he should be better in the field. Johnson's a good gamble for AZ, but there's a not insignificant chance he'll be mediocre both in the field and at the plate.
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