Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Sunday, October 12, 2008

MLB: NLCS: Close pitches cause benches to clear

Damn, I missed it. “Duck” Phillips was back to cocktailing at the time!

Tempers flared and benches cleared during the third inning of Game 3 of the National League Championship Series on Sunday, sparking more than a fair bit of animosity between the Dodgers and Phillies.

Setting the stage, Dodgers catcher Russell Martin, hit with a curveball in the first inning by Phillies starter Jamie Moyer, had a Clay Condrey fastball buzz under his chin in the bottom of the second inning before grounding into a double play. An angry Martin slammed his helmet and pounded a cooler in the dugout.

Then, in the third, after Dodgers starter Hiroki Kuroda knocked him to the ground with a pitch behind his head, Shane Victorino appeared to be saying to Kuroda that if he was going to hit him, then he should hit him in the ribs, not the head. Victorino then grounded to first base and, after Kuroda went to cover first base for the inning’s final out, the two began jawing again. Both benches cleared, as Manny Ramirez sprinted in from left field to join the scuffle.

Several Dodgers surrounded Ramirez and pushed him to the back of the crowd, before umpires were able to restore order. No one was ejected from the game, although both benches were issued a warning.

Repoz Posted: October 12, 2008 at 11:15 PM | 16 comment(s)
  Related News: GeneralLA DodgersPhiladelphia

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

Page 1 of 1 pages
   1. Sean Forman  Posted: October 12, 2008 at 10:26 PM (#2980307)
Russell set the all-time record for HBP in an NLCS game with two breaking a 92-way tie with one.
   2. Gamingboy  Posted: October 12, 2008 at 10:29 PM (#2980311)
Ladies and Gentlemen, Sean Forman!
   3. So Taguchi is My Sensei  Posted: October 12, 2008 at 10:37 PM (#2980315)
The fastest you'll ever see Manny run in this series...
   4. Repoz  Posted: October 12, 2008 at 10:47 PM (#2980320)
Russell set the all-time record for HBP in an NLCS game with two breaking a 92-way tie with one.

Shane Victorino set the all-time record for saying the word "squashed" during the postgame interview.
   5. akrasian  Posted: October 12, 2008 at 11:52 PM (#2980342)
I don't like throwing at the head - but I found it amusing that Victorino was complaining about it, given the multiple instances the Phillies had done in game two and tonight. He should have been complaining to his own pitchers, that he was the person being retaliated against for their offenses.
   6. bads85  Posted: October 13, 2008 at 01:19 AM (#2980351)
Ladies and Gentlemen, Sean Forman!


Speaking of which, does anyone know of a source that lists historical World Series odds of the two teams playing --- not the preseason odds of a team winning the World Series? for example, what were the odds of the 1954 Indians vs the Giants?
   7. Fly is Part of the Landed Gentry  Posted: October 13, 2008 at 06:33 AM (#2980360)
for example, what were the odds of the 1954 Indians vs the Giants?

That's going to be tough to find. Sports betting wasn't very well organized back then, and communication was limited between bookmakers. I think the line could vary quite a bit.
   8. fra paolo  Posted: October 13, 2008 at 07:34 AM (#2980372)
Then, in the third, after Dodgers starter Hiroki Kuroda knocked him to the ground with a pitch behind his head

I don't remember Victorino being knocked to the ground, nor that the pitch was behind his head. I remember a pitch going over his head, and Victorino ducking a bit. Is history being rewritten?
   9. bunyon  Posted: October 13, 2008 at 07:42 AM (#2980375)
I thought the look on his face and words of Martin when asked about Victorino were great. He had a little kid smile and said in response to being asked about throwing at Victorino's head, "Well, we didn't throw at his head, we threw over his head."
   10. SJ and the pants of freedom.  Posted: October 13, 2008 at 07:55 AM (#2980377)
More like, Victorino not shutting the #### up caused the benches to clear.

While I agree with him, he made his point several dozen times.
   11. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity  Posted: October 13, 2008 at 08:12 AM (#2980380)
More like, Victorino not shutting the #### up caused the benches to clear.

Baseball players generally looking for any excuse to leave the bench is what caused the benches to clear. Victorino did the little point-to-the-head, all-that-I-ask thing again, then he turned his back; Kuroda listened, then turned and walked away. From each of their perspectives, that seemed to be the end of it.
   12. bunyon  Posted: October 13, 2008 at 08:14 AM (#2980382)
Given that they continued the conversation after the inning ended, that didn't seem to be the end of it.
   13. SJ and the pants of freedom.  Posted: October 13, 2008 at 08:19 AM (#2980384)
He made his point, a lot. It was clear what he was saying, he did his little point to the ribs point to the head thing at Kuroda several times

He did it at the umpire, he did it at the dodger bench, after he grounded out, he did it again. I mean, we get it.
   14. Confined to the Halls of Congers (formerly Y...)  Posted: October 13, 2008 at 08:33 AM (#2980392)
I thought the look on his face and words of Martin when asked about Victorino were great. He had a little kid smile and said in response to being asked about throwing at Victorino's head, "Well, we didn't throw at his head, we threw over his head."

I was going to say that it looked like the pitch just got away from Kuroda, but, uh, nevermind.
   15. Mister High Standards  Posted: October 13, 2008 at 08:39 AM (#2980398)
I was going to say that it looked like the pitch just got away from Kuroda, but, uh, nevermind.


HA HA HA. Wow. I have a bridge to sell you.
   16. Edmundo is Super Average Man  Posted: October 13, 2008 at 08:39 AM (#2980399)
He did it at the umpire, he did it at the dodger bench, after he grounded out, he did it again. I mean, we get it.
Martin should have told him, "OK, OK, the next time up we'll hit you in the ribs".
Page 1 of 1 pages

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

<< Back to main

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Los Angeles Softballer of Anaheim
for his generous support.

My Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Vivid Seats is a sports ticket broker, concert ticket broker and theater ticket broker offering the best baseball tickets like Yankees tickets, Cubs tickets, and Red Sox tickets, as well as Police reunion tour tickets and Jersey Boys tickets.

We have baseball tickets, the NFL schedule, college football tickets and Cowboys tickets. We have NBA tickets like Celtics tickets and Lakers tickets. Plus, buy concert tickets, Patriots tickets and Colts tickets. Also check out our MLB baseball schedule

Baseball Bats

JustGreatTickets.com provides the best value for Chicago Cubs Tickets, MLB tickets including Red Sox Tickets, Yankees Tickets, SF Giants Tickets, LA Dodgers Tickets, Cleveland Indians Tickets. Get the best concert tickets like Jonas Brothers tickets and more Chicago Tickets.

Concerts Theatre NFL Angels Dodgers MLB Celtics Theater NBA Tickets Venues NHL Lakers Tickets NFL Yankees NHL Phillies NBA Wicked Marlins MLB Concerts Cubs Mets Red Sox Wicked WWE Red Sox Mets Yankees Dodgers

Major League Baseball: All Star Game, New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox, LA Angels, Washington Nationals, Chicago White Sox, and the Chicago Cubs.

Find terrific deals on Yankees tickets for the new home, Cubs tickets for classic Wrigley, or Red Sox tickets for Fenway with OnlineSeats. We have seats for every baseball game, including Dodgers tickets.

Page rendered in 2.3697 seconds
82 querie(s) executed