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Wednesday, February 10, 2010

MLB: Noble: Hernandez tutoring Murphy at first base

I won’t say that Murphy belongs in the dugout, but he doesn’t belong at first base!

But no less an authority than Hernandez senses that Murphy can be an asset on the right side of the infield and give the Mets one less reason for pause.

“The way he works and as aggressive as he is, I expect him to be more than adequate,” Hernandez said Tuesday evening from the East Coast of Florida, hours after he and Murphy had completed a second session. “Some of what he does already—playing aggressively and always trying to get the lead runners—that can’t be taught. So he’s ahead of the game. Other things he can learn. I’m more than happy to help.”

Hernandez’s assessment of Murphy’s performance at first base—Murphy started 97 games and played 849 1/3 innings there last season—was properly qualified.

“Under the circumstances—he had zero experience there—he was very decent. I like his hands; you can’t teach good hands. I like his aggressiveness. He played admirably.”

Murphy’s objective is to be an asset at first base, to exceed expectations that seem to overlook his surprisingly effective play last summer after his flawed attempts to play left field. Toward that goal, he enlisted Hernandez’s expertise in December. An illness in Murphy’s family made pre-holiday sessions impossible. But general manager Omar Minaya, aware of Murphy’s desire for tutoring from a master, contacted Hernandez last week. The former Mets captain and now SNY commentator agreed to help and reprise his role of spring 2000.

Repoz Posted: February 10, 2010 at 04:34 AM | 12 comment(s) | Login to Bookmark
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   1. bobm Posted: February 10, 2010 at 05:23 AM (#3457577)
Forget about first base, can Keith Hernandez help Daniel Murphy at home plate?
   2. Russlan will never be fond of Jason Bay Posted: February 10, 2010 at 05:29 AM (#3457581)
I am much more confident in Murphy's ability to learn how to play first base defensively than I am in his ability to hit enough to be an asset at that position. I doubt that Murphy will be the Mets first baseman by the end of the 2011 season.

Can Murph play 3rd adequately? Because if he can do that and could learn how not to be a complete and utter embarrassment in left, he'd be a nice bench player.
   3. PreservedFish Posted: February 10, 2010 at 08:18 AM (#3457606)
Can Murph play 3rd adequately? Because if he can do that and could learn how not to be a complete and utter embarrassment in left, he'd be a nice bench player.


I pray that he never spends another inning in the outfield.

But I was shocked at how competent his 1B fielding was. He's fine over there.
   4. Greg Goosen at 30 Posted: February 10, 2010 at 10:18 AM (#3457613)
Murphy was reasonably decent at first. Unlike left field where he was Todd Hundley-like awful.

Which coach can help a player more: pitching, hitting or fielding?
   5. Downtown Bookie Posted: February 11, 2010 at 12:43 AM (#3458318)
Which coach can help a player more: pitching, hitting or fielding?


From The Game of Baseball by Gil Hodges with Frank Slocum (Crown Publishing):

Of the various things that make up a baseball team, such as pitching, hitting, power, speed and defense, one can be taught more easily than the rest, and that's defense.


So that's one opinion to consider.

DB
   6. Crispix Attacks Posted: February 11, 2010 at 12:45 AM (#3458319)
The baserunning coach (Davey Lopes) was given singlehanded credit for the Phillies jumping into contention at one point in 2007, though it has now become clear that there were other major factors involved.
   7. The Wilpons Must Go (Tom D) Posted: February 11, 2010 at 01:16 AM (#3458331)
Murphy starting at 1B is about as good a symbol of futility as I can think of.
   8. Lassus: Posted: February 11, 2010 at 01:28 AM (#3458336)
I have little doubt the metrics disagree, and Muphy has been a massive disappointment at the plate, but he was definitely a good fielder. I watched a LOT of games, a whooooole lot of them, and he's a good fielder there at first.
   9. Banta Posted: February 11, 2010 at 01:34 AM (#3458337)
Murphy played first base last year, after starting the year in left. He will be turning 25 this year. He has some Irish blood in him, like myself.
   10. bobm Posted: February 11, 2010 at 01:52 AM (#3458353)
[8]
I have little doubt the metrics disagree, and Muphy has been a massive disappointment at the plate, but he was definitely a good fielder. I watched a LOT of games, a whooooole lot of them, and he's a good fielder there at first.


Murphy was about 10% better than league average (on a rate basis per PA defended) on unassisted putouts and assists at 1B, and over 30% better on a rate basis at 3-X-3 double plays. His fielding at 1B is fine; it's the offense that needs to come around.
   11. JPWF13 Posted: February 11, 2010 at 09:34 PM (#3458874)
His fielding at 1B is fine; it's the offense that needs to come around.


51 players last year started 30% or more of their games at 1B and had 100+ PAs
The median OPS+ for that group was: 105
The unweighted mean OPS+ was: 110
The mean OPS+ was: 119 (.275/.361/.480)

Murphy put up a 95
In his 557 PAs he "created" approximately 16 runs less than the average (mean) 1B
In 700 PAs that would be a 20 run shortfall on offense

can he make it up with the glove?

According to UZR, no he can't, some years the BEST 1B doesn't even save 10 runs let alone 20.
Even if he was an elite 10+ run defensive 1B he's still have to hit like... well 2009 Tatis (or Cantu) an OPS around .780... could he do that? Sure, his career OPS is .768, and he'll be 25
can he be a plus 10 1B?

Can he get his OPS up to .800?
Can he get his OPS+ to 110?

Look in 707 MLB PAs he has a 103 OPS+
BUT, he can't play in the OF, 3B is blocked (he could be decent, mediocre 3B for another team...), and if there was any hope of him being a 2B I suspect he would never have been moved off there in the first place... So he's gotta hit better than 103, even if he turns into a wiz with the glove.
   12. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 11, 2010 at 09:37 PM (#3458880)
Has Keith started calling him a "pickin' machine" yet?
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