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Monday, September 01, 2008

MLB.com: D-backs’ Drew hits for cycle

Stephen Drew became just the third D-backs player to hit for the cycle when he accomplished the feat Monday afternoon against the Cardinals at Chase Field.

Drew joined Luis Gonzalez (1999) and Greg Colbrunn (2002) in Arizona’s 11-year franchise history to collect a single, double, triple and home run in the same game. It was also the first time it had ever been done at Chase Field.

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   1. The Kids Are Enright (1k5v3L) Posted: September 02, 2008 at 02:41 AM (#2925507)
Good for Stephen. Nice to have. Now keep getting those extra base hits.

Incidentally, Adrian Beltre hit for the cycle today as well.

Adrian Beltre hit for the cycle and had five hits to help the Seattle Mariners win their fourth straight game, beating the Texas Rangers 12-6 on Monday night.

Beltre, who had the third five-hit game of his career, became the fourth Mariners player to hit for the cycle with an RBI triple off Josh Rupe in the eighth.

Beltre homered in the second, had an RBI single in the fourth and singled in the sixth off Rangers starter Matt Harrison. He doubled off Rangers reliever Luis Mendoza (3-7) in Seattle’s four-run seventh.

John Olerud was the last Mariner to hit for the cycle, doing so on June 16, 2001 against the San Diego Padres.

Arizona’s Scott Drew hit for the cycle earlier Monday against St. Louis. It was the first time two players hit for the cycle on the same day since Sept. 17, 1920, when Bobby Veach of the Detroit Tigers and George Burns of the New York Giants did it, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.
   2. Crispix Attacks Posted: September 02, 2008 at 02:42 AM (#2925508)
And oddly enough, Scott Drew is more famous as a basketball coach, while George Burns was more famous as a comedian.
   3. Basil Ganglia Posted: September 02, 2008 at 02:47 AM (#2925511)
I wonder if this is the first time two players have hit for the cycle on the same day.
   4. The Kids Are Enright (1k5v3L) Posted: September 02, 2008 at 02:48 AM (#2925513)
I meant to comment on "Scott Drew" but forgot. Also, the write-up doesn't make it clear when exactly Beltre had the triple... unless one of the singles got credit for three bases. Word is the Brewers are appealing to Selig to allow that to happen. Incidentally, George Burns didn't produce the film "Baseball".
   5. Russlan will never be fond of Jason Bay Posted: September 02, 2008 at 02:54 AM (#2925519)
Drew has a 107 OPS+ this season which isn't bad at all. It's a little OBP-lite but he's still one of the better hitters at his position. ZR hates him but how is his defense to the guys that are watching him everyday?
   6. The Kids Are Enright (1k5v3L) Posted: September 02, 2008 at 03:12 AM (#2925532)
Not exactly sure why ZR hates him. He's probably average to above average. Fielding Bible has him in the + territory (+5 last time I looked, around end of July). From the few games I've seen this year, I think he does a better job on balls hit right at him and to his left.

Last year he was a bit unlucky, with .271 babip, this year his babip is .319. The big difference is his LD%; it's at 22.1% this year, vs. 16.5% last year. Agreed on his OBP, it's mostly due to the fact he's drawn fewer walks this year (5.9% BB% vs 10.0% bb% last year), while his K rate has remained more or less the same. However, he's been improving as the year progressed

He had 19 bb vs. 60 k in the first half (360 PA), but 13 bb. vs. 30 k since the all star break (182 PA); overall since the all star break he's hit .320/.362/.497/.859 OPS. OPS of other shortstops since the all star break: Hanley .833, Reyes .855, Jeter .769, Rollins .751.
   7. shoewizard Posted: September 02, 2008 at 03:58 AM (#2925570)
Drew has what I would call adequate range.....probably a little below average, for whatever reason, his ZR sucks, so thats hard to dispute. But it's made up for with a strong accurate arm, and strong skills and instincts around the bag. He's very good on the charging play and handles tough hops quite well. He's been pretty sure handed overall, just 11 errors this year.

As Levski said, fielding bible has him in plus territory, but only +2 right now, ranked 15th
They show him better to his right, weaker to his left, better on balls in the air than on the ground.

More or less...it all adds up to a league average shortstop

2008-1087 Inn +2 (15th)
2007-1283 Inn -1 (19th)
2006- 489 Inn +2

If he can hit over .800 OPS every year for the next 4 years, I'll take that all day long.
   8. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 02, 2008 at 04:43 AM (#2925597)
John Olerud was the last Mariner to hit for the cycle, doing so on June 16, 2001 against the San Diego Padres.

How the hell did he get a triple?
/checks BBRef

Huh. He got 13 of them over his career.

Also, I know it was only 3 years ago, but I really have no recollection of John Olerud playing for the Boston Red Sox. Or for the Yankees in 2004.
   9. Crispix Attacks Posted: September 02, 2008 at 04:50 AM (#2925598)
Of all the disturbing phenomena spawned by the boundless hubris of Red Sox Nation, the fact that the photo on Olerud's Wikipedia page shows him in a Red Sox uniform is possibly the most bizarre.
   10. Brandon in MO (Yunitility Infielder) Posted: September 02, 2008 at 05:17 AM (#2925611)
Olerud's going into the hall with a Sox cap on

also, Wikipedia and some card company need to come to a deal for cheap images of players to replace the system they have now.
   11. vortex of dissipation Posted: September 02, 2008 at 05:45 AM (#2925619)
Also, the write-up doesn't make it clear when exactly Beltre had the triple... unless one of the singles got credit for three bases.


Beltre, who had the third five-hit game of his career, became the fourth Mariners player to hit for the cycle with an RBI triple off Josh Rupe in the eighth.
   12. Harold Posted: September 02, 2008 at 05:49 AM (#2925622)
John Olerud was the last Mariner to hit for the cycle, doing so on June 16, 2001 against the San Diego Padres.

How the hell did he get a triple?
/checks BBRef

Huh. He got 13 of them over his career.


I was at that game in 2001 when Olerud got the cycle. I didn't even realize it at the time; I just didn't consider it within the realm of possibility.

What's crazy is that Olerud hit thirteen triples in his career and managed to hit for the cycle twice.
   13. Golfing Great Mitch Cumstein Posted: September 02, 2008 at 07:25 AM (#2925640)
The STL CF on that triple should be noted for his role in Drew's cycle. Each time I saw that replay his attempt to catch that ball looked worse. Terrible jump, followed by a terrible route to the ball.
   14. tl; dr (Voxter) Posted: September 02, 2008 at 07:38 AM (#2925643)
Most triples, in my experience, are doubles or outs compouned by non-throwing errors. There are of course exceptions. The only "triple" I can remember hitting personally involved errors by both the first baseman and right fielder.
   15. The Kids Are Enright (1k5v3L) Posted: September 02, 2008 at 11:44 AM (#2925679)
Thanks, vortex. Obviously Steve Nelson isn't the only poster in this thread who can't read
   16. TVerik, AKA Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dog Posted: September 02, 2008 at 11:51 AM (#2925682)
Or for the Yankees in 2004.

He was actually pretty good for the Yanks that year - I believe he got injured just before the playoffs. No one could know whether things would have turned out differently in the series that year, but it was a major factor, IMO.
   17. Basil Ganglia Posted: September 02, 2008 at 03:28 PM (#2925934)
Thanks, vortex. Obviously Steve Nelson isn't the only poster in this thread who can't read


Ah, yes. I read about as well as I scooped low throws at 1B in my Little League days.
   18. SoSH U at work Posted: September 02, 2008 at 03:33 PM (#2925937)
Most triples, in my experience, are doubles or outs compouned by non-throwing errors. There are of course exceptions. The only "triple" I can remember hitting personally involved errors by both the first baseman and right fielder.


Miguel Tejada's yesterday was definitely a triple. I've never seen a ball move back toward home plate at a clip like that before.
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