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Tuesday, November 20, 2007

MLB: Detroit-area scribes put Ordonez first in AL MVP race

Even Randal got into the act!

“I saw Magglio play every day,” Jim Hawkins said. “What I saw was a player having an MVP year. I have no quarrel with anyone who voted for A-Rod. He also had an MVP year. But with the injuries the Tigers had and the effort and performance I saw from Magglio, there’s no question he had an MVP year.”

Hawkins first became a member of the BBWAA in 1970. And since that time, he’s always put particular stock into the true essence of the award—a players’ value to his club.

...“You have to ask yourself where the Yankees would have finished without A-Rod and where the Tigers would have finished without Ordonez,” Hawkins said. “A-Rod had a better supporting cast than Magglio did. I know for a fact the Tigers would not have been anywhere close and certainly not in Wild Card contention without Magglio.”

...“I just counted it up,” he said less than three hours after the voting had been announced, “and as of a few minutes ago, I had gotten 30-some e-mails. All but two or three of them said, ‘You’re an idiot.’”

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   101. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: November 20, 2007 at 04:46 AM (#2620909)
Why are these pretzels making me thirsty?
   102. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 04:50 AM (#2620911)
Who wrote the book of love?
What is this thing called love?
When will I be loved?
Where have all the flowers gone?
How do you solve a problem like Maria?
   103. Boots Day Posted: November 20, 2007 at 04:57 AM (#2620915)
Who's the black private dick who's a sex machine to all the chicks?
How many roads must a man walk down before you call him a man?
Where the hell is Bill?
Why must I be a teenager in love?
How am I supposed to live without you?
Who can take a sunrise, sprinke it with dew, cover it with chocolate and a miracle or two?
Do you know the way to San Jose?
How do you sleep?
Do you love me now that I can dance?
How do you do what you do to me?
Where is the love?
Which one's Pink?
What's it all about, Alfie?
   104. The District Attorney Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:00 AM (#2620918)
What is an emcee if the wall ain't got no back?
What is paper to a n***a if the n***a don't stack?
Why do these girls look so good in the summer?
If you got ta-dat-ta-dat-tap for your lady, wouldja wanna?
'Cause you answer the phone "peace", do that mean that you not a freak?
'Cause you recognize meeee, yo, I got to speak?
Why you gotta act like a n***a all the time?
Is a n***a yo' complexion, is it all in your mind?
What's it called, y'all?

If I'm a intellectual, I can't be sexual?
If I want to uhh tah uhh, does that mean I lack respect for you?
Youse a grown man, why f**k that young girl, are you lustin'?
If you got paper like that, then why you still hustlin'?
Now you know yo' stomach too big to be wearin' a shirt like that... so why you want to go and do that?

Why your girl get giddy when my name come up?
How come the industry build careers that don't last?
How come n****s don't know, but they front and don't ask?

Why they say never say never when they know that ain't right, cause to never say never, you done said never twice?
Why do I need I.D. to get I.D. -- if I had I.D., I wouldn't need I.D.?
Why do these fine ghetto women got so much ass?
Why did Dr. J shave his beard and mustache?
How you got high expectations but got no patience?
How come this joint named "The Questions" is so John Blazin'?
   105. Athletic Supporter leads the nation in drifters Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:00 AM (#2620919)
How long until the MVP vote is split 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2 by similar logic?
   106. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:01 AM (#2620920)
Anybody here seen my old friend Martin?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
   107. Nasty Nate Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:03 AM (#2620922)
could you be loved?

who'll stop the rain?

why go (?)

Can I kick it?

Why can't I touch it?

Mommy, what's a funkadelic?
   108. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:12 AM (#2620928)
"War, HUH, goodgodyall, what is it good for?"
   109. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:15 AM (#2620930)
Who farted?
   110. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:16 AM (#2620931)
is this catechistic thread still going on?
   111. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:18 AM (#2620932)
Well, if it's song time here on BTF, what the hell....

(Not Sung To The Tune of "Ode to Joy")

I'm just a BAD BOY, bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh----BLAAAHHH
All dressed up in fancy clothes
I'm taking the trouble
To blow my bubbles away

THERE-fore, bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh----BLAAAHHH
Life is just a bowl of cherries
I'm taking the trouble
To turn my nights into days

The hot blazing Sun
Don't hurt my head
Cause you'll always find me
Right there in the shade

I can see all the folks
There're laughing at me
Cause I'm just naturally
CRA--z.....

THERE-fore, bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh bluh----BLAAAHHH
All dressed up in fancy clothes
I'm TAK-ing the TROUB-le
To BLOW my bubbles away

BAD BOY!!!!!
   112. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:19 AM (#2620933)
Is this the worst thread ever?
   113. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:21 AM (#2620934)
Who's behind the door?
   114. Jolly Old St. Neck Wound, Moral Idiot Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:24 AM (#2620939)
"BAD BOY"---the original version made into a Republican video.

I just found this googling around, and I can now truthfully say that my life is complete.
   115. Homer Summa Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:29 AM (#2620942)
Who's your daddy?
   116. thetailor Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:41 AM (#2620948)
Can we ask a thousand questions?
   117. Sox Machine Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:01 AM (#2620956)
Is this the worst thread ever?

Does Tom cruise?
   118. Rear Admiral Piazza Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:13 AM (#2620963)
Who is Harry Kellerman and why is he saying terrible things about me?
   119. baudib Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:09 AM (#2620972)
Good job by everyone in this thread.
   120. DFA Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:49 AM (#2620984)
You have to ask yourself where the Yankees would have finished without A-Rod and where the Tigers would have finished without Ordonez


Do I have to?
   121. Banta Posted: November 20, 2007 at 08:17 AM (#2620989)
Does anyone else think it would be a good idea, in order to streamline BTF, that from now on no one asks questions in any other place but this thread? Doesn't anyone else get annoyed when you're reading along and then a damn question pops up?
   122. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: November 20, 2007 at 09:36 AM (#2621001)
Does this look infected to you?
   123. Teheran's Uranium Enriched Missiles Posted: November 20, 2007 at 09:40 AM (#2621002)
Does this look infected to you?

don't you think thats a little too affected?
   124. Long John McCaine Mutiny on the Bounty (scott) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 09:45 AM (#2621003)
are we still waiting for godot?

is this not the best thread ever?

are people daft?
do they not realize than 9 bust-a-ryhme is the best drinking game minigame ever?
   125. Athletic Supporter leads the nation in drifters Posted: November 20, 2007 at 09:52 AM (#2621004)
Is there going to be an answers thread to answer all of these questions?
   126. jingoist Posted: November 20, 2007 at 10:06 AM (#2621009)
You gotta ask yourself, "Do I feel lucky?"
Well....do yah, punk?
   127. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: November 20, 2007 at 10:20 AM (#2621011)
How now, brown cow?
   128. RMc's grumbling has gone far enough Posted: November 20, 2007 at 10:24 AM (#2621013)
Is this even legal?
   129. pv nasby Posted: November 20, 2007 at 11:49 AM (#2621017)
Fast ship? You've never heard of the Millennium Falcon?
   130. Vrhovnik Posted: November 20, 2007 at 12:31 PM (#2621026)
Who put the bomp in the bomp-a-bomp-a-bomp?
Who put the ram in the ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong?
Who put the bop in the bop-she-bop-she-bop?
Who put the dip in the dip-de-dip-de-dip?
   131. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 12:47 PM (#2621030)
What kinds of fools are we?
   132. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 12:48 PM (#2621031)
Can you hear me, Major Tom?
   133. A Random 8-Year-Old Eskimo Posted: November 20, 2007 at 12:50 PM (#2621032)
Who let the dogs out?
   134. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 12:50 PM (#2621033)
Do you want a kind of meta-reference?
Why are these lyrics doubly appropos?

Did you see the moon last night,
Hung like a Chinese ball?
   135. T.J. Posted: November 20, 2007 at 01:19 PM (#2621042)
Are we not men?

Are you experienced?
   136. AJM Posted: November 20, 2007 at 01:25 PM (#2621044)
You talkin' to me?
   137. Greg Pope Posted: November 20, 2007 at 01:29 PM (#2621046)
Is there going to be an answers thread to answer all of these questions?

Wouldn't it be awesome if a thread was started and each post was the answer to the corresponding question post for this thread?
   138. RMc's grumbling has gone far enough Posted: November 20, 2007 at 01:45 PM (#2621056)
Yes, it would, wouldn't it?
   139. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 01:53 PM (#2621064)
Did you write the book of love,
And do you have faith in God above,
If the Bible tells you so?
Do you believe in rock ’n roll,
Can music save your mortal soul,
And can you teach me how to dance real slow?

Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died?
   140. Bob Dernier Cri Posted: November 20, 2007 at 02:03 PM (#2621073)
Who put the bop in the bop-she-bop-she-bop?
Who put the dip in the dip-de-dip-de-dip?


Who is that man? I'd like to shake his hand?
   141. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: November 20, 2007 at 04:05 PM (#2621208)
Who was the front man for the Mysterians?
   142. T.J. Posted: November 20, 2007 at 04:49 PM (#2621291)
?, correct?
   143. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:05 PM (#2621316)
Will Clark b.j. Ryan, oris Hockett the only Nolan-dick butler?
   144. Vrhovnik Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:13 PM (#2621332)
Can blue men sing the whites?
Or are they hypocrites
to sing the blues?
   145. chemdoc Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:17 PM (#2621341)
If Magglio falls in the forest, but no one is there to vote for him, does he make a sound?
   146. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:21 PM (#2621354)
Is this thing on?
   147. Boots Day Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:31 PM (#2621377)
Do you believe in magic in a young girl's heart?
Can you feel the love tonight?
Please, please, tell me now, is there something I should know?
Does this bus stop at 82nd Street?
Have you never been mellow?
Is there anybody going to listen to my story, all about a girl who came to stay?
Is a dream a lie if it don't come true, or is it something worse?
Operator, can you help me place this call?
What's your name, little girl, what's your name?
Can it be that it was all so simple then, or has time rewritten every line?
If we had the chance to do it all again, tell me, would we?
Could we?
Did you ever have to make up your mind?

Are you so fast that you cannot see that I must have solitude?
When I am in the darkness, why do you intrude?
Do you know my world, do you know my kind, or must I explain?
Will you let me be myself, or is your love in vain?
   148. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:32 PM (#2621381)
Can blue men sing the whites?
Are there ever enough references to the Bonzos?
   149. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:33 PM (#2621384)
So do yez think that Maggs shoulda gotten some first place votes, ordonez?
   150. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:34 PM (#2621385)
A home run record where apes evolved from man?
   151. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:36 PM (#2621387)
Can I get a witness?
   152. aleskel Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:37 PM (#2621389)
can I take it to the bridge?
   153. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:40 PM (#2621397)
Why does the sun go on shining?
Why does the sea rush to shore?
Don't they know it's the end of the world,
`cause you don't love me anymore?

Why do the birds go on singing?
Why do the stars glow above?
Don't they know it's the end of the world?
   154. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:41 PM (#2621399)
Please sir, can I have some more?
   155. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:43 PM (#2621401)
Should I stay or should I go?
   156. aleskel Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:46 PM (#2621405)
what's so funny 'bout peace love and understanding?
   157. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:50 PM (#2621411)
Is all hope lost?
Is there only pain and hatred and misery?
   158. Dr Love Posted: November 20, 2007 at 05:53 PM (#2621415)
If I would, could you?
   159. Loren F.'s well-anchored glenoid Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:03 PM (#2621425)
Is "42" the answer to all these questions?
   160. T.J. Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:31 PM (#2621446)
Why do birds suddenly appear
Every time you are near?
   161. RJ not in TO Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:34 PM (#2621450)
Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?
   162. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:39 PM (#2621454)
Who do you have to #### to get some service around here?
   163. Vrhovnik Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:40 PM (#2621457)
Why does love got to be so sad?
   164. Dr Love Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:41 PM (#2621459)
Why does love got to be so sad?


What's love got to do with it?
   165. RJ not in TO Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:43 PM (#2621462)
Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb?
Mother do you think they'll like this song?
Mother do you think they'll try to break my balls?
Mother should I build the wall?
Mother should I run for president?
Mother should I trust the government?
Mother will they put me in the firing line?
Mother am I really dying?
   166. user Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:44 PM (#2621463)
Who rigs every Oscar night?
   167. Vrhovnik Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:44 PM (#2621464)
Did she jump or was she pushed?
   168. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:46 PM (#2621467)
Dr Love Posted: November 20, 2007 at 01:41 PM (#2621459)

What's love got to do with it?


Huh?
   169. T.J. Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:53 PM (#2621478)
Who controls the British Crown?
Who Keeps The Metric System Down?
Who keeps Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg, a star?
   170. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:53 PM (#2621480)
Dontcha know ya wanna make me shout?
   171. Vrhovnik Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:54 PM (#2621482)
Wot's...Uh the Deal?
Where Have All the Good Times Gone?
Why Can't We Be Friends?
Who Knows Where the Time Goes?
Would I Lie to You?
Do Ya?
   172. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:56 PM (#2621485)
Baby, baby, baby, where did our love go?

And won't you be, be my, be my baby?
   173. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 06:58 PM (#2621489)
What's Going On?
   174. Bob Dernier Cri Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:01 PM (#2621494)
So I pick up the ball and I throw it to who?
Who gonna hit my invite pitch?
Will you be the best there ever was in the game, Roy?
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
Rogers Hornsby was my manager, and he called me a talking pile of pig####, and did I cry?
Why don't you get back into that sardine can of yours and go vacuum the bottom of the Pacific Ocean?
Who's got the pain when they do the mambo?
What new rules?
Bad trades are part of baseball - who can forget Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas, for God's sake?
Who is the guy who scoops up the ball and whips it to second base?
Is this heaven?
Isn't this game about getting together with your friends and just having a good time?
   175. Vrhovnik Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:02 PM (#2621496)
Why do we never get an answer
When we're knocking at the door?
   176. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:06 PM (#2621500)
Can you help a fellow American down on his luck?

If you're the police, where are your badges?
Badges?
   177. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:08 PM (#2621503)
Is Vrhovnik a Brit, since he has referenced the Bonzo Dog Band, Move/ELO and the Moody Blues in recent posts?
   178. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:09 PM (#2621504)
Et tu, Brute?
   179. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:10 PM (#2621507)
How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere At All?

Should I get back to concentrating at work?
   180. Vrhovnik Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:11 PM (#2621508)
May I put my negative answer in the form of a question?
   181. simon bedford Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:11 PM (#2621510)
what the hell is an aluminum falcon??
   182. Vrhovnik Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:15 PM (#2621516)
People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along?
Where's the beef?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
How does it feel to be an #######, Neidermeyer?
I won't go schizo, will I?
   183. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:25 PM (#2621529)
Zat you, Santa Claus?
   184. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:28 PM (#2621535)
What's up, doc?
   185. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:28 PM (#2621536)
Please sir, can I have some more?


MOOOOOREEE?! You want some MOOOOOREEE?!
   186. Cowboy Popup Posted: November 20, 2007 at 07:32 PM (#2621544)
what the hell is an aluminum falcon??

Is that a Robot Chicken allusion?
   187. simon bedford Posted: November 20, 2007 at 08:03 PM (#2621609)
is Admiral Ackbar cereal a trap?
   188. Yardape Posted: November 20, 2007 at 08:14 PM (#2621633)
Rules? In a knife fight?
   189. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: November 20, 2007 at 08:15 PM (#2621636)
Who was Casper the Friendly Ghost before he died?
   190. Dr Love Posted: November 20, 2007 at 08:40 PM (#2621684)
Huh?


What me worry?
   191. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: November 20, 2007 at 08:47 PM (#2621699)
Do you know the way to San Jose?
   192. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 08:49 PM (#2621704)
What would you think if I sang out of tune?
Would you stand up and walk out on me?

Listen, do you want to know a secret?
Do you promise not to tell?

Why don't we do it in the road?
   193. Quiet Flows the Don Taussig Avenger (Edmundo) Posted: November 20, 2007 at 08:54 PM (#2621714)
If a butterfly chances to flap his wings in Beijing in March, then, by August, will hurricane patterns in the Atlantic be completely different?
   194. T.J. Posted: November 20, 2007 at 09:01 PM (#2621726)
Is he having a laugh?
   195. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 20, 2007 at 09:02 PM (#2621727)
What is this thing called love?

What is this thing called, love?
   196. Swoboda is freedom Posted: November 20, 2007 at 09:15 PM (#2621748)
Who needs the Quik E Mart?
   197. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 20, 2007 at 09:22 PM (#2621758)
Are we there yet?
   198. aleskel Posted: November 20, 2007 at 09:26 PM (#2621760)
you mean, coitus?
   199. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: November 20, 2007 at 09:39 PM (#2621771)
Pardon me boys, is that the Chattanooga Choo Choo?
   200. pv nasby Posted: November 20, 2007 at 09:45 PM (#2621779)
You Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?
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