I hear Yost is about to be fired.

It's a wrap.

It wasn't a "frenzy" so much as a "collective surge of hope" from Milwaukee and a "collective groan of disappointment" from everyone else.

I was just surprised Haudricourt was using an item from something called "The Badger Blog" in the first place.

I had never heard of it before, and all of a sudden he's using it as a source? Didn't see that one coming...

I sometimes wonder if I would despise Yost if I didn't come to this site and if I weren't influenced by HW. As a non-Brewer fan, but a baseball fan who was excited about the team before last season, would I have paid close enough attention to pick up on his lameness?

That last quote threatening to cut off the reporters for pulling cheap crap like mentioning that there was an unconfirmed report out there leads me to believe I would dislike him anyway. Maybe I wouldn't know about his tactical missteps, but I'd still think he's a dumbass.

It's not like the reporters reported it as truth or wrote celebratory articles (or blogposts) during the day. Jeez.

MLB: False Report Furious Over Ned Yost

"Even I can see he sucks."

I was just surprised Haudricourt was using an item from something called "The Badger Blog" in the first place.

It's a tough position for a beat guy. The blogger's "scoop" had already gotten plenty of attention. Readers/superiors want to know if there's any truth to it. Beat writer has to question Brewers' management, who subsequently gets pissed that they're giving these guys legitimacy. But if they sit on it, readers/superiors want to know why the paper isn't following up on the story that Yost is about to get the ax.

Then the beat guy should be pounding on the door of the blogger, not the Brewer management!!!!! If they didn't go to the blogger to verify his source, than what they printed or asked questions about were complete hogwash. Would an editor of a Milwaukee paper printed this rumor from a beat reporter without verifying the source? I certainly hope not. This is Journalism 101, and the Milwaukee "journalists" blew it.

Then the beat guy should be pounding on the door of the blogger, not the Brewer management!!!!! If they didn't go to the blogger to verify his source, than what they printed or asked questions about were complete hogwash. Would an editor of a Milwaukee paper printed this rumor from a beat reporter without verifying the source? I certainly hope not. This is Journalism 101, and the Milwaukee "journalists" blew it.

than what they printed or asked questions about were complete hogwash

Not true - they can ask the question. Journalists are allowed to do that. They do not have to check sources to ask a question.

Then the beat guy should be pounding on the door of the blogger, not the Brewer management!!!!! If they didn't go to the blogger to verify his source, than what they printed or asked questions about were complete hogwash. Would an editor of a Milwaukee paper printed this rumor from a beat reporter without verifying the source? I certainly hope not. This is Journalism 101, and the Milwaukee "journalists" blew it.

Well, Frisco summed it up nicely, but the obvious response from the blogger is "I'm not going to reveal my sources." And the beat guy is left in the same position. There's a report out there, read by many, that says Yost is going to be fired. It's truly a damned if you do, damned if you don't moment.

Madison-- A blogger was found stabbed to death early this morning in his home. A Madison man who blogged under the name "Badger Blogger" was found by neighbors bleeding from apparent multiple stab wounds to his chest, neck and face. Police later arrested Harry Gerard Bissinger, of New York, as he paced back and forth on the sidewalk in front of the victim's home. He was said to be muttering the words "Full of ####" and "Balls deep" repeatedly.

One of the ironies of this same article is that later on in response to Braun's comments Yost states empthatically that everyone has a right say what they want.

"I have no problem with what Ryan said," Yost said on Tuesday. "Everybody has the right to say what they want to say, all right?

I know there is a difference, but I still found the juxtaposition of Yost's rant with this response amusing.

Alas, the only real tangible outcome from this episode is Doug Melvin and Co. digging in their heels at addressing the Yost situation. Who in a leadership position wants to give the appearance of having outsiders "call the shots"? Nobody. It would take a colossal meltdown for any move to be made with respect to the Brewers manager.

By the way, since the 24-10 start of 2007 the Brewers have compiled a record of 80-93.

This impresses Doug Melvin for some reason.

Me, not so much........

Yost may end up getting fired at some point, but I don't blame him for being angry that a blog report, without any other factual support, is given credence in the newspaper. That is no different than printing a rumor off the street, unless there is some factual basis for believing the blog. What should the reporter do because "people are talking about the blog report?" The reporter should perform his own investigation and reach his own conclusion as to whether Yost is about to be fired. If he comes up with sources who verify it, then write the story. Otherwise...it's just a rumor.

Wiki no longer says "soon to be fired;" but does now say

"Yost briefly enjoyed a second career as a taxidermist in Jackson, Mississippi in between his playing days and coaching days."

Let's check back on this blog, say, July 1st, and see what the outcome is.

Who in a leadership position wants to give the appearance of having outsiders "call the shots"? Nobody. It would take a colossal meltdown for any move to be made with respect to the Brewers manager.

Exactly what I was thinking. You can't make it look like you're not in control.

If Yost is so upset that the report was inaccurate, he could always quit and make it retroactively true.

Strike a blow for accuracy in the media, Neddy!

Doc:

I have come to terms that between the contract extension, Melvin's sense of responsibility around the pitching staff and now this incident that Yost is pretty much invulnerable.

Folks really need to stop looking at the Brewers situation in terms of wins and losses and look at it in the context of a management structure. Melvin CHOSE Yost. He has INVESTED in Yost. Yost has followed Doug's orders.

Any change with Yost is a reflection on Melvin. Akin to the Hendry/Baker situation in Chicago only "worse" in that the timeframe of commitment has been much longer by Melvin. Five years is a long time. A LONG time.

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In Soviet Russia, report falsifies you!

harveys,

dude i'm sorry.

shakespeare said something about how if a group of people want to succeed, they gotta sail when the tide is full on the outgoing tide otherwise they be stuck and goodbye victory.

and looks to me like melvin is one of those kinds of guys don't understand that by the next time the tide comes around it is too late to do what you were gonna do when the time and tide were right before. he can't/won't ever keep evaluating the success of a Plan and understand that sometimes, you DO gotta change horses in mid-stream...

it looks to me like yost lost this team a long time ago. like 2 years ago. and melvin couldn't do what needed to be done then and he'd rather fail with yost than win wthout him. of course, he can always blame the players.

but i personally think that although all the reporters love to go on and on about how certain ballplayers are supposed to be "leaders" that the manger is the genuine leader and i think that groups of any kind of people, male or female, become disspirited and disorganized when the leader is obviously no good...

i know that it is possible for any group to band together and win to spite their leader, but a baseball team can't decide who plays, the lineup or the pitching. so it can't really work like that.

and believe me, i'm sorry harvey, i really am. this team should have won BIG. and i personally think that giving braun and not fielder THE contract, as well as blaming weeks and not hardy, is really gonna do a lot of internal harm. once you get guys divided like that in a group it is bad news...

Well, Frisco summed it up nicely, but the obvious response from the blogger is "I'm not going to reveal my sources."

I simply don't believe any news article that is sourced entirely by unnamed sources.

An "unnamed source" is supposed to be the start of a piece of investigative journalism, not the end of it.

I simply don't believe any news article that is sourced entirely by unnamed sources.

An "unnamed source" is supposed to be the start of a piece of investigative journalist, not the end of it.

Agreed JRE. The point isn't whether any paper should run with the information from the blog entry (or their own unnamed source crap). The point I was making is that Melvin/Yost got upset simply because a beat guy asked about it. And the beat guy really has no choice but to ask if there is any validity to the rumors.

sosh u,

agree that the beat guy HAD to ask if the rumor was true. he would have had to ask if he heard ot from bout any anonymous source that supposedly "knows"

and since the blogger had already written it and a lot of people had read it, it's not like he heard it from the ushers, you know what i'm sayin